Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia
FOSS and wikimedia project have some similarities but they are different projects. Wikimedians are not a subgroup of FOSS followers, infact most of them living outside ideal FOSS world (I use free softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free softwares). I don't think there is any possibility to impose any POV to wikimedians in the name of FOSS if there is a good wikimedia community. That is not very hard, since the people with particular aim rarely contribute outside mailing list or talk page. On 04/01/2012, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem It was not. Instead of articulating same point again, i pointed the link. It does not matter even if it someone else's article . Please respond to it that , instead of rejecting it only because of seeing jimbo's name there Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Praveen, I'm assuming good faith in thinking that you do not mean to accuse FOSS advocates of imposing their POV on Wikimedians in general. Whatever! FOSS or Something else! One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by peeping into the license of software which he/she uses to contribute wikimedia projects. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: On a lighter vein, this will give a nice script for a conspiracy theory - * One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by peeping into the license of software which he/she uses to contribute wikimedia projects. * Rest assured, Praveen, that other than hoping that we will get enlightened by expressing their views, FOSS advocates have no agenda towards us non-FOSS Wikimedians. You and I can continue to use Windows/proprietary software and hate brinjals in peace. You may use windows or hate brinjal, don't force me to do exactly same as you. I've my own choice (as any one else). ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.
Fair use applies when no other options available. In case of CC, options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio. On 23/12/2011, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproduction_in_a_newspaper In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing fees of the photograph? -arun On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in copyright law? :) Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- j.mp/ArunGanesh -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start a new thread. On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. Praveen Do you mean this bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005 The bug speaks itself . From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand to use fonts them from upstream. On Normalization of characters, it is an optional feature, for visibility of some chillus , that can be disabled in user settings if needed. It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser restrictions. Anivar I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- [It is not] possible to distinguish between 'numerical' and 'nonnumerical' algorithms, as if numbers were somehow different from other kinds of precise information. - Donald Knuth ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindi Wiki crossed 1 lakh Article milestone
Wow! very happy to hear such a great news! Even though there are some exceptional administrative works ;-), I wonder why some links from Main Page itself leads to some title only stubs :(. http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BC http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A1_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9F_%E0%A4%9F%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AE http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A5%A7%E0%A5%AC%E0%A5%AD%E0%A5%AF http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A5%A7%E0%A5%AC%E0%A5%A9%E0%A5%AF http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9F%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%AD%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8_%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%AE I hope someone will fix them soon. praveenp On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:50 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, With about 50,000 registered user, 250 active users , 14 million edits and a depth of 34http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:StatisticsHindi Wikipedia crossed 1 lakhs articleshttp://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:Statisticsmilestone today. Regards (User:Mayur) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Number grouping for Indian Languages
Hi, FYI: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29495 I hope this is okay for ml, hi, sa, ta, kn, te, mr, ur, or, bn, pa, gu, bho, as, ks with exception of date, with own as well as English digits. [I thought Hindi's own digits are popular! ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29279) ] Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Uploads to Commons] Geocoding and Multilingual descriptions
Hi,
*hjl_getCoor* is gives {{coor d}}, {{coor dms}} templates which are suitable
for articles. For Images, it is better to use {{location}} or {{location
dec}} to point camera location. For that, I think GeoLocator (
http://tools.freeside.sk/geolocator/geolocator.html) is easy. By using
GeoLocator it is possible to add camera direction also (eg:
http://goo.gl/7L5cv).
Thank you
Praveen P
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi
psubhash...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey here is a nice site which can also be used for finding exact Geo Codes.
http://www.giswiki.org/hjl_get_CoorE.htm
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010
Bishakha Datta wrote: I feel the following misquotes/inaccuracies are somewhat damaging: *last para - the fictional quote on 'Malayalam articles having more depth.' I don't recall anyone saying this, let alone me. well, do math ;-) probably not that much damaging ;-) -- praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones
Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, There is a difference between a transliteration script and an alternate input method. In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In my understanding something like an transliteration script is what Bellayet is using.. Thanks, GerardM PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :) Hi, I believe once I sent all Malayalam Characters for this purpose. ;-) PraveenP ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Cricket articles on Marathi Wikipedia, other meaningless inflation of article counts
Kolhapuri wrote: The problem is well known and discussed at Marathi Wikipedia, but we at Marathi Wikipedia like to take all contributions that come to us. We know that number of articles doesn't mean anything. But when there are only handful of contributors, we don't like to lose any of them by stopping them from doing what they like to do. Some users want to add new stub articles to make it easy for others to add content, we don't think stopping them will do any good. We know that we lack meaningful articles with enough information and there are some people who work on it. You can only do some much with limited resources. By the way Cricket articles ask people to refer 'Sachin Tendulkar' article as an example if they want to expand it. Regards, Pratik On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know who to talk to about it specifically, but there is some problem with the cricket articles on the Marathi Wikipedia; perhaps it is indicative of a wider trend Lots of English wikipedia Australian cricketer articles have Marathi interwikis more than any other language. But going to all of them, they consist of three parts *Stub message *Empty infobox *The same five words as following उदाहरणादाखल सचिन तेंडुलकर हा लेख पहा. The wikilink goes to Sachin Tendulkar, judging by the photo I went to the Marathi article on Len Hutton, and clicked on the cat http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%97:%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9F_%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B3%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%82 Presumably this is the cat for English cricketers? I randomly clicked on about 15 of them and all of them have the same sentence. The same thing happens on teh Australian, NZ and South African cats by following the interwiki, about 800 articles appear to be completely empty or more useless than a substub. Whoever did this, all they are doing is meaninglessly inflating the article count with articles that are all but empty except for an irrelevant comment about Sachin Tendulkar. They may think it makes Marathi Wikipedia look better on the article count rankings, but it is only likely to make it look like a farce, especially if this is widespread. It may trick a few admins in other Wikipedias into being impressed and generate some fake prestige, but there is also a chance that anyone who might use/contribute might consider the WP to be a joke, or people from other projects who bother to take a look will think that the culture of the Marathi project is to fraudulently inflate themselves with misleading statistics I checked another Indic wp with the random function and saw a very substantial minority consisting of empty section headers cut and pasted around the place, although the depth ranking is very high. The depth can be gamed very easily, but it doesn't do anything useful except for false bragging and probably harm in the long term Can someone who knows Marathi deal with those cricket articles please. Thanks Thats true. In Malayalam wikipedia we once faced same problem. But It get worse when nobody except that particular writer is happy. We overcome this by putting a tag on such article that denotes "this article is too stub or single line" and we keep it for some weeks. If there is no improvements on contents, we recommend that article for deletion. So now most of our articles are with atleast basic infos. I can surely say that some users want to start so many articles, only to say that they started it. ;-) Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
I don't consider members or membership. I am not devaluing commitment or hardwork. I am thinking about lack of openness. You guys must know (may know well) the level of Indic language involvement in meta. Why didn't this list? besides I've not seen any comment about a Wikimedia Indic Chapter in linked meta-talkpages also. And that linkedin page made me to believe there is something subterranean BalaSundaraRaman wrote: -- Dear Praveen, No need to address me, you people are supposed to communicate the community ;) Since I'm one of the people involved, let me introduce myself: I'm an editor at English and Tamil Wikipedias for around 6 years, though recently I'm mainly active in Tamil Wikipedia alone. My username on either wikis is 'Sundar'. I am a bureaucrat in Tamil Wiki and an admin in the English Wiki. My edit contributions are at http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=tawiki_p and http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=enwiki_p Besides these, I wrote a bot for exporting over 1 lakh dictionary entries to Tamil Wiktionary and ran it with the help of Ravishankar. I have also participated in several outreach efforts and volunteered with MediaWiki localisation. I presented a paper at Wikimania 2009. ( http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:217 ) As for your other concerns, we'll send out a separate email outlining the process. For now, you can check the post by HPN at http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 Regards, Sundar "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the _expression_ of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 3:24:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter I am very happy and proud to hear that we got a wikimedia indic chapter. But I wonder why all these activities taken so hidden? We are a community (or a community of communities), we've an active mailing list, but I didn't hear anything about such an active effort (may be i missed). Is there any separate communication medium? Or is this a special chapter for wikimedia English projects? I recently learned someone as wikimedia indic chapter director from linkedin (http://in.linkedin.com/in/kiruba). He is also being CEO, Founder, Co-Founder, Director of many other initiatives (Actually I don't have any problem about that). I am thinking about that election process and members. I am sorry but frankly I don't know any of other guys also. If possible introduce them, and their home wiki. I wish, an informed community about any further steps. If someone can clarify my thoughts originated from poor knowledge, I'll be more happy. PraveenP Hari Prasad Nadig wrote: Dear all, As Srikanth has already noticed in an earlier e-mail, the draft Memoranda of Association for the proposed Wikimedia India Chapter has been put up on Meta here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA Even as the team working on the current draft has spent the better part of a year working on it, I am sure that there would be scope for improvement. Please provide your invaluable comments and suggestions on the relevant talk page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA. However, given the time we have spent on the document, it is important that we proceed quickly and hence, I suggest that the comments be made on or before this Saturday, the 13th of March 2010. Let us maintain the Wiki-etiquette expected out of us during the discussion. People curious about the earlier and the current efforts at forming the India chapter may find my blog post on it, http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 a complimenting read. More on Wikimedia India chapter can be seen on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India. Let us look forward to a great response in discussing and debating the MoA of the proposed Wikimedia India chapter. -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
arjuna rao chavala wrote: 2010/3/11 Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com I don't consider members or membership. I am not devaluing commitment or hardwork. I am thinking about lack of openness. You guys must know (may know well) the level of Indic language involvement in meta. Why didn't this list? besides I've not seen any comment about a Wikimedia Indic Chapter in linked meta-talkpages also. And that linkedin page made me to believe there is something subterranean I have given linkedin profile, as that is the most comprehensive page available for me accessible to all. I provided the same in the spirit of full disclosure. If you have specific questions, I will be happy to respond. K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar? What was the election process criteria? How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed? Thanks Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Mobile MediaWiki
Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: But won't using Unicode fix it?? I didnt get that On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Can I have this screen shot and, can I have confirmation that it is from an i-phone ? I would also love to see this from an android. One Android screenshot available here. http://www.j4v4m4n.in/2009/08/15/malayalam-support-on-android-one-step-at-a-time/ That also shows same problems in i-phone. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Support_Wikipedia/en ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Mobile MediaWiki
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Online Study 2009 -How did you read this report
http://wikistics.falsikon.de/latest/ Check here for more tools http://stats.wikimedia.org/ thanks arjuna rao chavala wrote: Thanks for a good article. I am keen to know the hits for indian language wikipedias. I find only for the wikipedia domain from alexa or other sources. Is there a site which can provide the info? Regards Arjun http://tech4society.blogspot.com 2009/11/6, Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia mahit...@yahoo.co.in: I hope following study snapshot by JuxtConsult will help you all to draw some conclusion, I would bee keen to understand how others read following report.( would infact recomond those who can buy full report I feel it is worth while, if you find the same usefull) Regards Mahitgar India Online Study 2009 - A snapshot by JuxtConsult - Presentation Transcript 1. India Online 2009 Understanding Online Indians and their Net Usage Behavior and Preferences 2. Study Overview • Most recent estimates of Internet user-ship in urban and rural India. Estimates based on a land survey conducted between Dec 2008–Jan 2009 among 135,000 individuals from 16,000 households in 40 cities and over 12,000 households in 480 villages spread across all the 4 regions of the country • Insightful understanding of net usage behavior and preferences of regular online Indians. Findings on ‘net usage dynamics’ based on a sample of over 50,000 ‘active’ online panel members with JuxtConsult, and findings on ‘popular online activities and website preferences’ based on an online survey among more than 12,500 of these ‘active’ panel members in Feb-Mar 2009 • Understanding of online Indians as ‘consumers’ and not just as faceless net users. Includes their socio-economic status, online shopping behavior, and website and media preferences reported on the ‘most used’ basis • Website preferences captured for over 32 online verticals/domains 3. Methodology A land survey was conducted to profile and estimate the users of internet. The survey covered ‘towns’ and ‘villages’ of all population strata, and ‘households’ of all socio-economic classes (SEC) within each of these towns and villages Net usage dynamics, behavior and website preferences were captured from the ‘actual’ internet users form JuxtConsult’s own Internet User Panel (www.getcounted.net) Demographic ‘weights’ derived from the land survey were then used to make the online panel and survey data representative of the entire online urban population (and not just of the online panel members) Representation ‘weights’ were derived based on 6 demographic parameters - town class, SEC, region, gender, age and preferred language of reading Only authentic Govt. of India data (NSSO/Census/RGI) were used for estimation of user-ship and derivation of representation ‘weights’ 4. Topline Findings 5. Pond gets smaller, but livelier… ‘All’ internet users down at 47 million (39 million urban, 8 million rural) Drop of 6% from last year (lapse of around 3 mn occasional users) Just 10% growth in ‘regular’ users base*, reaching 38.5 mn (33 mn urban) +3.5 mn regular ‘urban’ users over last year, +0.4 mn regular ‘rural’ users 15% growth in ‘daily’ internet users (+4.2 mn in last 1 year to reach 32 mn) * Regular internet users = internet users who use the internet ‘at least once a month’ ** All internet users = Regular + Occasional internet users who have ‘used the internet in last one year’ 6. Lapsers predominantly Cybercafe users Exclusive cybercafé user base shrink to become just 6% of all internet users Lapsers from cyber cafe account for most of the internet lapsers in last one year Office continues to be the place from where internet is accessed the most (68% at ‘multiple’ access point level) Average place of access per user is 1.9 On preferred access point basis, home tops at 37% 7. Affordability language holding it back… 1 out of 4 computer user still not using internet Most new broadband connections are ‘replacement’ connections Still only 4 mn internet users access it through mobile phones Only 13% of existing internet users prefer to read in English More importantly only 20 mn Indians (2% of all) prefer to read in English 8. Catching the ‘classes’ across the country… 4 out of 5 online Indian are in the ‘prime’ of their life (19-35 years) 3 out of 4 of them belong to the ‘consuming’ and ‘aspiring’ class (almost half of them belong to SEC ‘A’ and ‘B’) Half of all Internet users are employed Their average monthly family income is 3.2 times the national average 3 out of 4 of them come from the non-metro towns and nearby villages 9. Household Assets % Internet Users Owning Color TV 78% Mobile Phone 72% Bank Account 68% Computer/Laptop 71% Fridge 53% Life Insurance 46% 2-Wheeler 51% Credit Card 25% Air Conditioner 13% 4-Wheeler 10% Invested in Shares 14% 10. What they do when online… % Undertaking Change from 2008 Top 10 Online Activities* Search for travel
