Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
Thanks Navin for suggestions. Also Thanks to others who suggested improvements and signed up on project page. We are planning to host first Spoken Wikipedia Workshop on 16th-December-2012. Details - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops Keep Suggesting, Keep Inspiring! Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune -- Forwarded message -- From: Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:08:07 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages Good initiative Abhishek !! You can also try out .. http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/ http://silpa.org.in/TTS Thanks, Naveen Francis http://wikibooks.in On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with disabilities to read.. It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered on Spoken Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages . It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics, Cancer, Dengue etc. (Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or via operators. Please have a look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages What do you think? Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Forwarded message -- From: sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:54:42 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were wrong, from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any linguist's folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the culture and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland, incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues? Ignoring the somewhat ad hominem nature of the argument, you do realize that Indic is something that is used at the Unicode Consortium to denote the group of Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:03:39 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote: Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. barring Tamil :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:13:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:03 AM, ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net wrote: On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote: Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. barring Tamil :-) The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ? Admittedly, we are a bit off the original topic. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:25:30 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages On Friday 16 November 2012 09:13 AM, sankarshan wrote: The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ? well, my opinion is that these have evolved
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were wrong, from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any linguist's folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the culture and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland, incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues? Ignoring the somewhat ad hominem nature of the argument, you do realize that Indic is something that is used at the Unicode Consortium to denote the group of Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote: Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. barring Tamil :-) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:03 AM, ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net wrote: On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote: Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants. barring Tamil :-) The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ? Admittedly, we are a bit off the original topic. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
On Friday 16 November 2012 09:13 AM, sankarshan wrote: The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ? well, my opinion is that these have evolved in a complimentary/ collaborative environment certainly Tamil couldn't have existed in seclusion any-time in the past. -- ஆமாச்சு ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
As far as this discussion is concerned, it does not seem that we need to be much bothered about the history and background. What we need to focus on is the word in its current context, so, Indic and Indian languages, with particular reference to display standards, and therefore the direction of work needed to ensure that pages can display correctly on as many devices as follow the standards. From recent posts, it seems that Unicode acknowledges two families of scripts, namely Indic and Brahmic. If this is the correct situation, I see no confusion in defining the work ahead. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill The cameras were all around. We've got you taped; you're in the play. Here's your I.D. (Ideal for identifying one and all.) Invest your life in the memory bank; ours the interest and we thank you. Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973) On Nov 16, 2012 9:25 AM, ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net wrote: On Friday 16 November 2012 09:13 AM, sankarshan wrote: The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ? well, my opinion is that these have evolved in a complimentary/ collaborative environment certainly Tamil couldn't have existed in seclusion any-time in the past. -- ஆமாச்சு __**_ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikimediaindia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying Indic languages. Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were wrong, from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any linguist's folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the culture and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland, incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues? Besides that particular part, I agree with you. Regards Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
Just a suggestion. Why not put up such projects on Meta/ Keeping them on the English wikipedia brings about a misconception that it is restricted to English. P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are derogatory. Let's say Indian languages shall we? On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with disabilities to read.. It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered on Spoken Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages . It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics, Cancer, Dengue etc. (Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or via operators. Please have a look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages What do you think? Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in: P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are derogatory. Citation needed. I hope not to derail this thread, but AFAIK there's nothing derogatory in these words. I don't even know why do you mention vernacular, which didn't appear in the email. Correct me if I'm missing anything. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Amir, I was merely told by someone. I was told that both words were derogatory [at the same time, hence I mentioned both]. If you wish to discuss this further, we can take it offlist. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in: P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are derogatory. Citation needed. I hope not to derail this thread, but AFAIK there's nothing derogatory in these words. I don't even know why do you mention vernacular, which didn't appear in the email. Correct me if I'm missing anything. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Sign this petition to introduce Volvo buses in Coimbatore city: https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com: Amir, I was merely told by someone. I was told that both words were derogatory [at the same time, hence I mentioned both]. If you wish to discuss this further, we can take it offlist. If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying Indic languages. -- Amir ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
