Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN's grant report

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Asaf, Can WMF present the MoU to FDC privately? FDC has representation from global community and this will ensure better transparency at the same time preserving WMF's adherence to legal protocols. It will also make more sense for the FDC members to take an informed decision while assessing the

[Wikimediaindia-l] A new steward from India

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Hey, Just wanted to let you know that Shanmugam has been elected as a Steward recently. He started editing in Tamil Wikipedia and serves as a sysop there. He is available in the Indian time zone and should be able to make sense of issues involving some of the Indian language Wikimedia projects.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A new steward from India

2014-04-23 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Congratulations Shanmugam! Happy to hear this, Ravi. Best, Subha On 23/04/14 3:30 pm, Ravishankar wrote: Hey, Just wanted to let you know that Shanmugam has been elected as a Steward recently. He started editing in Tamil Wikipedia and serves as a sysop there. He is available in the India

[Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee states that "The *Affiliations Committee* (formerly known as *Chapters Committee*, colloquially *AffCom*) is a Wikimedia community committee

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What do you hope to achieve with this legalistic approach ? What is your bias ? Thanks, GerardM On 23 April 2014 15:11, Ravishankar wrote: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee > > states that > > "The *Affiliations Committee* (formerly known as *Chapters Committee

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Gerard, I contribute to Tamil Wikimedia movement since 2005. I have made 25000+ edits in total. I serve as bureaucrat and sysop in most of the Tamil Wikimedia projects. I am an ordinary member of WMIN. I have not been in any role with the India chapter. I have hardly written one or two mails ther

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am concerned when the chapter and CIS work together, they will achieve more and bicker less. The more prominent the bickering the stronger will be the urge to cut on funding and to be extra careful when giving additional funding. I am a long time Wikimedian, I have over 300.000 pe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Bence Damokos
To get back to topic and answer the original question, the basis for CIS's eligibility is this WMF Board resolution: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:FDC_recognition_for_the_Centre_for_the_Internet_and_Society Best regards, Bence On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen wr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you Bence GerardM On 23 April 2014 16:14, Bence Damokos wrote: > To get back to topic and answer the original question, the basis for > CIS's eligibility is this WMF Board resolution: > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:FDC_recognition_for_the_Centre_for_the_Internet_

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Gerard, just asking, does there have to be any bias? When I first read Ravi's mail [before bence responded], even I had the same doubt. On 23 April 2014 19:47, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Thank you Bence > GerardM > > > On 23 April 2014 16:14, Bence Damokos wrote: > >> To get back to topi

[Wikimediaindia-l] Request for feedback on IEG Proposal for Wikitrack

2014-04-23 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
'Wikitrack' started out from an idea that I had about tracking edits on Wikipedia from mobile. I always felt that there's more to tracking edits and their quality on Wikipedia. For one, we could zero-in on better contributors than just going by the edit counts. And doing that for mobile could be go

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Bence, Thanks for the board resolution document. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria has 6 requirements and an exception clause that says: "In some cases, an exception may be made when an organization is actively working toward meetings these requirements a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Hoi Gerard, This is not a discussion about the usefulness of CIS's work. Most of the Indic Wiki communities till date have only engaged with CIS in good faith. Your comment about WikiData can help at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Inter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am so in disagreement with you .. If something new has to start and Wikidata is new, then it needs more than just a video or a conference call. I know, I live and breath it, I still discover new opportunities every day. I gave a presentation to professionals who work in data. It took me an h

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
Gerard, Do not go off-topic. Do not confuse readers. Please. Thanks, On 23 April 2014 22:08, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I am so in disagreement with you .. If something new has to start and > Wikidata is new, then it needs more than just a video or a conference call. > I know, I live and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Gerard, Let us stick to topic here. I will open another thread where we can discuss about the WikiData Marathon program. Thanks, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing

[Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed Wiki Data Marathon program by CIS-A2K

2014-04-23 Thread Ravishankar
Hoi Gerard, ( Context for others: Please see * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Wiki-Data_India_Marathon * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed Wiki Data Marathon program by CIS-A2K

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The point I made and the point that I make again. You did not ask, you do not know and you consider your opinion to be of paramount importance. In stead of asking you go from a fixed point of view that are limited and denounce a plan because everything has to be done elsewhere first to be rele