Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:53 PM, geni wrote: > 2009/12/2 Michael Peel : > > > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:23, geni wrote: > > > >> I see no problem with the court's or WMF's actions. Slightly worried > >> about the attempt by the plaintiff to prevent the WMF's name from > >> being released but the cour

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:53, geni wrote: > 2009/12/2 Michael Peel : >> >> On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:23, geni wrote: >> >>> I see no problem with the court's or WMF's actions. Slightly worried >>> about the attempt by the plaintiff to prevent the WMF's name from >>> being released but the court didn't gran

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread geni
2009/12/2 Michael Peel : > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:23, geni wrote: > >> I see no problem with the court's or WMF's actions. Slightly worried >> about the attempt by the plaintiff to prevent the WMF's name from >> being released but the court didn't grant that I can understand why >> that might have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/12/2 Michael Peel : > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:23, geni wrote: > >> I see no problem with the court's or WMF's actions. Slightly worried >> about the attempt by the plaintiff to prevent the WMF's name from >> being released but the court didn't grant that I can understand why >> that might have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:23, geni wrote: > I see no problem with the court's or WMF's actions. Slightly worried > about the attempt by the plaintiff to prevent the WMF's name from > being released but the court didn't grant that I can understand why > that might have been attempted. Um... that's not

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread geni
2009/12/2 Sam Blacketer : > The judgment is here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2009/3148.html > > Note WMF not represented but the judgment quotes the privacy policy > extensively. Seems reasonable. Someone was being a [[WP:DICK]] of the first order. Turned out to have meatspace conseque

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Brian McNeil
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 17:36 +, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Charles Matthews > wrote: > > > Agreed, but my point really is that anyone dealing with the media would > > be better prepared with some knowledge of other instances. And I don't > > instantly have the facts (s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
Bod Notbod wrote: > Never mind the legal technicalities, I'm still snorting coffee over my > desk at the bit that says: > > 'The open nature of the site has led to embarrassing instances in > which pages have been edited to contain false information. Tony > Blair’s entry was once edited to state th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Charles Matthews wrote: > Agreed, but my point really is that anyone dealing with the media would > be better prepared with some knowledge of other instances. And I don't > instantly have the facts (some of what I know about this might be > ArbCom-related and so pr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
Magnus Manske wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles Matthews > wrote: > >> While the Telegraph may possibly be correct that this is the first >> time for a British court to make such an order, I doubt this is the >> first instance of that clause being invoked. >> > > Yes, but th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Sam Blacketer
The judgment is here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2009/3148.html Note WMF not represented but the judgment quotes the privacy policy extensively. -- Sam Blacketer ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles Matthews wrote: > While the Telegraph may possibly be correct that this is the first > time for a British court to make such an order, I doubt this is the > first instance of that clause being invoked. Yes, but the Telegraph is a British newspaper, so all o

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
Michael Peel wrote: > Telegraph today: "A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online > encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors > after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an > alleged blackmailer." > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread michael west
On 02/12/2009, michael west wrote: > On 02/12/2009, Michael Peel wrote: >> Telegraph today: "A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online >> encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors >> after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an >> alleged bl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Dec 2009, at 16:20, michael west wrote: > On 02/12/2009, Michael Peel wrote: >> Telegraph today: "A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online >> encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors >> after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an >>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread michael west
On 02/12/2009, Michael Peel wrote: > Telegraph today: "A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online > encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors > after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an > alleged blackmailer." > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk

[Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
Telegraph today: "A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an alleged blackmailer." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia-

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/12/2 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/12/2 Michael Peel : >> It's "out" - as in no longer draft. Andrew will be sending it out by >> email this evening, and it will be going on the WMUK blog and twitter >> feed at the same time. > > Now would be better... The Google story is doing the rounds now, it > m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/12/2 Charles Matthews : > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> The BBC is running an article about Google's latest move in this story: >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8389896.stm >> >> If we get this release sent out soon then we might be able to get that >> article updated to mention us. >> > So

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/12/2 Michael Peel : > It's "out" - as in no longer draft. Andrew will be sending it out by > email this evening, and it will be going on the WMUK blog and twitter > feed at the same time. Now would be better... The Google story is doing the rounds now, it might be finished by tomorrow. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
It's "out" - as in no longer draft. Andrew will be sending it out by email this evening, and it will be going on the WMUK blog and twitter feed at the same time. Please feel free to mention it to all your favourite journalists... ;-) http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Free_online_ne

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
Thomas Dalton wrote: > The BBC is running an article about Google's latest move in this story: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8389896.stm > > If we get this release sent out soon then we might be able to get that > article updated to mention us. > So someone do it. I don't understand ab

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
The BBC is running an article about Google's latest move in this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8389896.stm If we get this release sent out soon then we might be able to get that article updated to mention us. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/12/2 Brian McNeil : > I disagree about taking out links - most press releases are online now > and can (i.e. most do) include inline links. The online version can, but the one that is sent out to the press needs to be plain text. I expect this release will be posted to our blog as well, that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
Brian McNeil wrote: > Mike, I edited one of the quotes; it should, under no circumstances, go > out until you okay that. > I have slain some verbiage and re-ordered. You can always revert me. Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikim