[Wikimediauk-l] Re: English Wikipedia deletion of Howard Stableford article
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, 10:39 am Sara Thomas, wrote: > No need to apologise :) It's not always the easiest thing to get your > head around... I found this essay, from Wikiproject:Women in Red, really > helpful: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Essays/Primer_for_AfD,_AfC_and_PROD > > All the best, > Sara > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 at 10:29, michael west wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, 10:11 am Andy Mabbett, >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 21:52, michael west wrote: >>> >>> > I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place to ask, but, I was just >>> going to look for >>> > information about BBCs Tomorrow World presenter Howard Stableford on >>> Wikipedia >>> > and found that it had been deleted. >>> > >>> > The deletion remark said that he wasn't notable. The PROD was made on >>> 26th >>> > December 2021 and the article was deleted on 3rd January 2022. I can't >>> find an >>> > AfD discussion about the article. The deletion has left a number of >>> red links. >>> >>> There is no discussion, because PROD is for uncontested deletion >>> suggestions and no-one contested it. See: >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion >>> >>> for details of the process. >>> >>> > Could an English Wikipedia administrator have a look to see if it was >>> a Speedy >>> > delete, without discussion? >>> >>> PROD is differenet to speedy deltion. >>> >>> I have asked the deleting admin to restore the article "so that it can >>> be improved, or sent to AfD if anyone feels strongly enough". >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Mabbett >>> @pigsonthewing >>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> >> >> Thank you. I'm sorry for my confusion about the deletion process, it's >> the first time I've ever come across a proposed deletion. >> >> Michael West >> >>> >>> ___ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > -- > Dr Sara Thomas > Scotland Programme Coordinator, Wikimedia UK > 07803 505 172 > https://wikimedia.org.uk/home/scotland/ > <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Wikimedia_in_Scotland> > > <https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/> > *I work part time and am not in the office on Mondays. * > > *Wikimedia UK* <https://wikimedia.org.uk/> is the national chapter for > the global Wikimedia open knowledge movement. > > Follow us on Twitter <https://twitter.com/wikimediauk>, Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaUK>, LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/496119>, and Instagram > <https://www.instagram.com/wikimediauk/>. > > Wikimedia UK is a Registered Charity No.1144513 (England & Wales) SC048644 > (Scotland). Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Scotland, Registered No. 6741827. > > Registered Office Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, > London SE1 0NZ > <https://maps.google.com/?q=5+-+11+Lavington+Street,+London+SE1+0NZ=gmail=g> > . > > Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The > Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate > Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Thank you Sara, I think the essay tackles every possible cause for deletion. I've bookmarked it. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Re: English Wikipedia deletion of Howard Stableford article
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, 10:11 am Andy Mabbett, wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 21:52, michael west wrote: > > > I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place to ask, but, I was just > going to look for > > information about BBCs Tomorrow World presenter Howard Stableford on > Wikipedia > > and found that it had been deleted. > > > > The deletion remark said that he wasn't notable. The PROD was made on > 26th > > December 2021 and the article was deleted on 3rd January 2022. I can't > find an > > AfD discussion about the article. The deletion has left a number of red > links. > > There is no discussion, because PROD is for uncontested deletion > suggestions and no-one contested it. See: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion > > for details of the process. > > > Could an English Wikipedia administrator have a look to see if it was a > Speedy > > delete, without discussion? > > PROD is differenet to speedy deltion. > > I have asked the deleting admin to restore the article "so that it can > be improved, or sent to AfD if anyone feels strongly enough". > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Thank you. I'm sorry for my confusion about the deletion process, it's the first time I've ever come across a proposed deletion. Michael West > > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] English Wikipedia deletion of Howard Stableford article
Hi everyone, I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place to ask, but, I was just going to look for information about BBCs Tomorrow World presenter Howard Stableford on Wikipedia and found that it had been deleted. The deletion remark said that he wasn't notable. The PROD was made on 26th December 2021 and the article was deleted on 3rd January 2022. I can't find an AfD discussion about the article. The deletion has left a number of red links. Could an English Wikipedia administrator have a look to see if it was a Speedy delete, without discussion? I find it difficult to believe that the article wasn't notable. I'm on my mobile telephone at the moment and contacting the admin who deleted the page on their talk page doesn't work for me. With kind regards Michael West ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Stay in touch with me through LinkedIn
Well I suppose it makes a change from facebook requests. Why has our friend got a BLP on Wikipedia though? On 01/01/2013, Fabian Tompsett fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: LinkedIn I'd like to include you in my network to share updates and stay in touch. - Fabian Fabian Tompsett Community editor at Wikipedia London, United Kingdom Confirm that you know Fabian Tompsett: https://www.linkedin.com/e/4l4thv-hbfgwz4f-6y/isd/10242563705/E08VXyXn/?hs=falsetok=3K1hZ1BWvS7BA1 -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/4l4thv-hbfgwz4f-6y/qsrAHQPw1pjhct92qD60tlMfCh0hXHNEqKFefSImRD/goo/wikimediauk-l%40wikimedia%2Eorg/20061/I3407233111_1/?hs=falsetok=2xjt__FmTS7BA1 (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Verifying membership applications - Suggestions and comments
Just to put this into a real world perspective. I an a member of the Labour Party which gives me certain rights to vote. I've never once in 23 years been asked to provide evidence of who I am. In terms of entryism the Labour Party has had a long history and the problem is dealt with not with postcards or expensive credit checks or heaven forbid notorised copies of documents but with a simple acceptence that you abide by the constitution. If you don't you get kicked out and if you disagree you take the party to court at your own expense. For a post that has had so many contributions I haven't seen much justification for any change in what you do already. The fear of reds under the bed or freak cabals seems to more important that actually signing up members and supporters and bogging them down with what if requirements. Maybe an approach to another charity or the electoral reform society and ask how they deal with ghost members might be more enlightening, than throwing it open to a public mailing list. On 19/11/2012, Katherine Bavage katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hi All, At the board meeting on Saturday a valid point was made that currently the verification process for membership applications doesn't really prove a barrier to fraudulent or duplicate applications. I'd like to look at ways of improving this, so as we aim to expand our membership numbers we're also making sure fairness is enshrined in a checking process that means people can only have one vote. If people pay their membership fee with Paypal, this isn't so much of a problem, as having a verified paypal account has already required this person to link their identity to their postal address - but we want to be as open as possible and so there will be people who give us 'a form and a fiver'. What checking processes do we think would be acceptable without being invasive/onerous? At a basic level, we should be confirming that the applicant is the named person at the address given. Please flag up concerns, suggestions for services or resources we can use, and so on. It may be that we can't completely eliminate the risk of fraudulent applications, but we can make it more difficult and provide a measure or reassurance that no individual has more power than any other by being able to vote twice etc . Thanks! -- *Katherine Bavage * *Fundraising Manager * *Wikimedia UK* +44 20 7065 0949 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of pictures from 1870
On 9 February 2012 17:49, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote: I am recently engaged in a conversation with [[User:Kimberlyblaker]], who uploaded a fair amount of old, 19th century pictures onto Commons, including the album of places in Cambridge (see below) which is of particular interest to me. What stumbled me was the copyright status of these images - are they in the public domain? If they aren't, is it due to publication right, and is Kimberly Blaker ( co.) the rightful copyright holder of them? Deryck -- Forwarded message -- From: New Boston Fine and Rare Books books4...@hotmail.com Date: 8 February 2012 17:06 Subject: Re: Unidentified locations To: Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk Dear Deryck, Thanks again, for the additional identification and for inviting assistance through twitter. As to the copyright, I truly appreciate your help with this. Here is what I can tell you, so that you can better assess the copyright. I have an original 19th century album with original 19th albumen prints of these images. The album does not appear to have ever been published. There is no title (except for a paper label that errantly labeled it as “Oxford”. There is no title page, copyright page, author, publisher, photographer, anything whatsoever inside. The only identification is a late 20th century bookplate on which it was handwritten “Oxford University, pictures taken for William Winfield, circa middle 19th century, given to Robert Winfield early 1970s. This album formerly owned by William Winfield.” Obviously the “Oxford” note is incorrect. I assume the other details are probably correct. It is probably a family heirloom that had been handed down. I have searched extensively, and cannot locate any of these identical images online. So I have to assume they may have never been reproduced and was likely a collection an early photographer did for himself or as a gift for a friend. With this in mind, aside from the photographs being compiled in a photo album, it seems that it would still fall under a previously unpublished work. I own the original work, have photographed the work, and have now published the work online via my own website. So I think, I am now the official copyright holder? I’m not an expert in copyright law but have some general understanding of it. You are probably better versed in this? Sincerely, Kimberly Blaker, President New Boston Fine and Rare Books 520-395-1363 Like us on Facebook and find a valuable coupon offer on our Welcome tab! We're also on Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, and Tumblr. Enter our FREE drawing for a chance to win a new leather bound Easton Press book. Take 19th century photographic tour of Cambridge University. And be sure to subscribe to our newsletter for future updates. From: Deryck Chan Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:11 AM To: New Boston Fine and Rare Books Subject: Re: Unidentified locations Dear Ms Blaker, Also identified: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pepys_Library_c1870.jpg This one is Pepys Library in Magdalene College. I've also posted links to the Wikimedia Commons pictures from Twitter asking others in Cambridge University to help identify the remaining unidentified locations. As for the copyright notice, I think I previously made the mistake of thinking the photos came from a collection published in the 1870s, which would be automatically out of copyright. However, I have now realised that the pictures are actually from a previously unpublished private collection, which means as copy-holder and publisher your company should enjoy 25 years of publication right... wait it's a previously unpublished British work uncovered in the United States... argh! (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Hirtle_chart) Deryck On 8 February 2012 14:42, New Boston Fine and Rare Books books4...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Deryck, Thank you for identifying these images! I’ve added this information to my website. If only I could determine the original photographer. Many of the originals are contact prints, but they had been trimmed, so identifying information is missing. Though when scanned and enlarged, I could see hand etched in the plate of the Master’s Garden was “J. Murray”, I believe. Though it’s hard to say if that’s the actual photographer as there was other random etching in the plate as well. If you have any idea where I might discover the photographer, possibly through Cambridge’s collections, etc., please let me know. Best, Kimberly Blaker, President New Boston Fine and Rare Books 520-395-1363 Like us on Facebook and find a valuable coupon offer on our Welcome tab! We're also on Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, and Tumblr. Enter our FREE drawing for a chance to win a new leather bound Easton Press book. Take 19th century photographic tour of Cambridge University. And be sure to subscribe to our newsletter for future
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Edward Buckner/Peter Damian Wikimedia UK
On 9 January 2012 12:37, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, Several respected members of the Wikimedia community – and several members of our charity – have approached us voicing their concerns about Edward Buckner, an ex-Wikipedia user who was banned from the project for harassing volunteers on and off Wikipedia. Given his past and present conduct, which includes harassment and publishing personal details of Wikimedians, we do not feel that we can guarantee the security of our volunteers if he is permitted to attend our events. To that end, Wikimedia UK have banned Dr Buckner (known on Wikipedia as User:Peter Damian) from attending any Chapter-run events (not including the London meetups) until further notice. Dr Buckner is, of course, still welcome to communicate with the charity through email and post, and this ban is subject to review in future if circumstances change. For the Wikimedia UK Board of Trustees, Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK It all seems very strange. It reminds me of Gerry Healy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Healy) when he was kicked out of The Labour Party photographing delegates outside the conference. or the Don't tell him Spike scene in Dad's Army. In terms of WP:COI editors are frequently outed, so are one set of editors allowed to remain completely anonymous and others not? I've been part of the project for 8 years and even being part of the email lists leaves you vulnerable to outside scrutiny. If the harassment is tangible then bring it to the notice of the authorities. Otherwise this is the most bizarre communication I have ever read in a public list. Michael West ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Edward Buckner/Peter Damian Wikimedia UK
On 10 January 2012 22:21, Edward at Logic Museum edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: This is missing the point. This is all about a British Museum event I signed up to attend some time ago, before the UKCC thing blew up. When other involved persons signed up I had it on my 'to do' list to remove my signature, conscious of the fact that it would have been embarrassing or difficult. I would have had no problem if I had been privately contacted and the matter discreetly handled. Note my interest in the Royal manuscript collection derives from my interest in Walter Burley, who I have translated. Instead, I find my name bandied about on this public list, being accused of 'harassment' like a common thug or criminal. I deeply resent this and I would like an apology. I have no problem with a voluntary agreement. I would like an apology, and a retraction of the accusation of 'harassment'. I don't go in for 'outing' particularly, although I think trustees and senior Wikipedians have an obligation to be publicly identifiable. And note my earlier comments about photography - only with permission, if at all. Edward is banned from editing most of the WMUK wiki, he is not blocked from his user talk page so an appeal could take place there I don't want to appeal anything. I simply want a retraction of allegations of 'on and off wiki harassment'. This has been deeply upsetting. Edward Seriously this thing is both worrying and casts the whole WMUK in a vindictive light. I see no need for a public statement to be issued. Wikepedians do fall out but why publicize allegations which have never been reported to outside authorities, either all of you have lost your minds or spat will escalates in an expensive court case. I'm confused and flabbergasted. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Test message
On 10 January 2012 23:07, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 January 2012 23:06, Edward at Logic Museum edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: It's difficult to see how you can expect to be taken seriously, having not even the courtesy to refer to Richard by more than an unadorned surname (the height of rudeness, as I'm sure you are aware), seeming not to have read the email that explains who Richard was acting for and apparently failing to understand that the WMUK mailing list is a proper place for discussion of WMUK issues. I have asked the Board to clarify who was responsible for the form of words. In some posts, and in some emails, Symonds explicitly says he is speaking on his own behalf. I have just emailed Peel. I am forced to conclude that your persistent rudeness is intentional. has everybody lost sense? Either the foundation has lost all sense of reasoning to post public alleged allegations or you are happy to feed trolls. Police if you can find proof, a county court to make a restraining order or let the guy sue the charity for defamation. What is going on? are you all crazy? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] OTRS
On 8 February 2011 00:12, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 February 2011 00:06, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, indeed I think the main problem is that such first-hand information from the subject of the article are unlikely to be backed by third-party reliable sources, which is why I think OTRS is the best way to do it - using BLP rules to circumvent the usual verifiability guidelines. If the inaccurate material is verified by sources that are as reliable as the typical newspaper, the BLP patrol will still hack it to pieces. Set Scott MacDonald on it, he wields the Holy Flamethrower of Crappy BLPs ;-D Delete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lulu_Popplewell ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor
On 02/12/2009, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Telegraph today: A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an alleged blackmailer. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia- ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html It's also in This Is London: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23778384-wikipedia- told-to-help-track-blackmailer.do Mike Has this been spiked? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor
On 02/12/2009, michael west michaw...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/12/2009, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Telegraph today: A senior judge has ordered Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, to disclose the identity of one of its contributors after a mother and her young child pleaded for help in identifying an alleged blackmailer. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia- ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html It's also in This Is London: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23778384-wikipedia- told-to-help-track-blackmailer.do Mike Has this been spiked? oops the links fell out of gmail http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia-ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23778384-wikipedia-told-to-help-track-blackmailer.do ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup
2009/1/3 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com Date is now finalised as Saturday 14th March, at 1pm (time based on London meetups which seems to be a good setup). Please sign up if you can make it[1] - if you'd like to be reminded about it nearer the time, please sign your name in the reminders section - no excuses! :-) If you can't make it but would like to be notified of UK meetups, please sign your name on [2]. Even if you can make it and want to be notified of future meetups, please sign too! Thanks, and looking forward to March! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Manchester_4 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/UK#List -- Alex (User:Majorly) Is the meet up just for editors? - I retired a year ago from editing but still read and use wikipedia. It seems a little extreme to bar non-editors, its a social. m ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup
2009/1/3 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com 2009/1/3 michael west michaw...@gmail.com Is the meet up just for editors? - I retired a year ago from editing but still read and use wikipedia. It seems a little extreme to bar non-editors, its a social. m No, anyone may attend. -- Alex (User:Majorly) Thanks for the reply on-wiki Alex. There is certainly nothing bizarre about wishing to attend after a years absence from editing. I've been a member of this list for 18months and can't recall any mention of Manchester meetup 2 or 3 ever being advertised on the list. Meetup 2 was mentioned on the GM project. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia *anyone *can edit. I have not been barred from editing and do edit under a wikiname that wouldn't link me to my past. I'm not 45 and from AL so attending the meetup in that guise would be far stranger than a lapsed editor showing an interest. Wikipedia doesn't mandate its editors to be truthful, do untruths help swing xfds or Rfa's? - I think thats doubtful - consistant editing and sourcing makes wikipedia good. m ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
Surely the chapter is about the promotion of Wikimedia in the UK, raising awareness of our projects and supporting the wider projects of WMF. I don't see a link between SPs on Wikipedia (and or other projects) whose disruption is essentially behind a computer screen and who wish to engineer splits between editors by subtle and unsubtle tactics that can only work on collective projects. *Sociétés or Limited Companies are bound up in legislation not policies and guidelines. The law, memorandum, constitution and resolutions* define what WMFUK2 is and I doubt that any SP is remotely interested in being involved. As for giving my WMF usernames out, I certainly would be reluctant. I have had three, I have never been banned or blocked and don't think I have had a test-1 even. I have left en-wikipedia twice, once because a wp project leader accused me of fabricating a reference because I had hosted a phd thesis on my own porn site; The second time because I had unfortunately started afresh too soon after my RTL and carried some of the baggage and now much saner and wiser in a state of non-editing. There are no smoke and mirrors, I think that anybody with a an hour on their hands could probably check through the enwiki-l archives and find all of my past personas. michael ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Rules (non-english speakers)
What languages are spoken in the United Kingdom? Afrikaans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans and Dutchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language Approximately 400,000 South African-British http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African-Britishand Dutch British http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people_in_the_United_Kingdom Arabic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic Up to 700,000 British Arab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Arab - British Iranianhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Iranian, British Iraqi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Iraqi, British Moroccans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Moroccans, British Yemenihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Yemeni Bengali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language (standard Bangla) Over 300,000 British Asian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Bangladeshis (1st language 5%) and Indians Cantonesehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_language British Chinese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chinese Various Caribbean languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Languages_of_the_Caribbean British Caribbeanshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_African-Caribbean_community French http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language Approximately over 1 million French Britonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_people_in_the_United_Kingdom German http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language 545,000 0.9% British Germans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Germans Greekhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language Up to 200,000 fluent or conversational 0.34% Greek Britonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Briton Hebrew Yiddish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_languages Up to 100,000 fluent or conversational British Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Jews and Israeli Britishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_British Gujarati http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_Language British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indians Hindihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_language British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indians Hindihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_language British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indians, British Pakistanis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pakistanis Hungarianhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_language Up to 70,000 0.12% Hungarian Britishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_British Kannada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kannada_language British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indians Lithuanian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_language Lithuanians, Baltic Britishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_people_in_the_United_Kingdom Malayalam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam_language British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indians Mandarin Chinese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese Around 200,000 fluent or conversational 0.33% British Chinesehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chinese Mirpuri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potwari_language (Potwarihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potwari ) Up to 700,000 1.15% British Mirpuri Pakistanis. Pashtohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashto Around 200,000 fluent or conversational 0.33% British Pakistanishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pakistanis Polish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language 600,000 1.0% Polish immigrants to the UK and Polish Britonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_British Portuguese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language Around 250,000 fluent or conversational 0.4% Portuguese Britonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Briton, British Brazilians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Brazilian and Cape Verdean British Punjabi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language 1,263,000 2.1% British Asians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian - Indian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India and Pakistanihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan Russian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language 350,000 0.60% Russian British http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_British, Ukrainian Britishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Britishand other former Soviet Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union countries Somalihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_language 200,000 0.33% British Somalis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Somalis Spanish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language 490,000 0.8% Spanish Britons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Briton, Colombian Britishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_Britishand other Latin American Britons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_Briton Sylheti Bengali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylheti_language 280,000[17]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-16 0.47% British Bangladeshishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Bangladeshi(95% of population) Tagalog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language Up to 150,000 fluent or conversational 0.23% British
