Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am (and then IWF backs down on Wiki censorship)

2008-12-09 Thread Gordon Joly
IWF backs down on Wiki censorship

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7774102.stm

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am (and then IWF backs down on Wiki censorship)

2008-12-09 Thread Gordon Joly
At 22:17 + 9/12/08, Gordon Joly wrote:
IWF backs down on Wiki censorship

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7774102.stm

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/IWF_reverses_censorship_of_Wikipedia?curid=117966

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
 I think a better analogy would be paintings in galleries which depict under
 18s, many of which could be considered Images depicting erotic posing with
 no sexual activity. I am thinking of some of the paintings of Caravaggio,
 almost any depiction of Ganymede etc.

An under 18 naked in an erotic pose, even without sexual activity,
would qualify as indecent by my understanding of how that word is
usually interpreted. The key thing with the Virgin Killer cover is
that the pose isn't erotic. It's clearly designed to show off her
nudity, but that's all.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
 You are, of course, right.
 That doesn't change, however, that this image is not illegal to view, it's
 merely in a greyer legal area of might be illegal. Which does nothing to
 change the IWF's shameful overreach in blocking the article as well as the
 image — and in doing such a cack-handed job of either.  :o)

If hasn't been proven in a court of law not to be illegal to view.
However, it is not illegal to view simply because the image is not
sexual as is plain to any reasonable person. So, as you say, the IWF
has gone overboard in blocking it.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread joseph seddon

Can I just say something, having just listened to the recording, i think David 
did
a damn good job of holding his ground in the interview, and I was plesently 
suprised
how sympathetic to our cause the interviewee seemed. Good on ya dave :) Date: 
Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:48:49 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: 
I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am   You are, of course, right. 
 That doesn't change, however, that this image is not illegal to view, it's  
merely in a greyer legal area of might be illegal. Which does nothing to  
change the IWF's shameful overreach in blocking the article as well as the  
image — and in doing such a cack-handed job of either. :o)  If hasn't been 
proven in a court of law not to be illegal to view. However, it is not illegal 
to view simply because the image is not sexual as is plain to any reasonable 
person. So, as you say, the IWF has gone overboard in blocking it. 
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