[Wikisource-l] Public domain status of European harmonised standards

2024-03-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The CJEU today ruled for Carl Malamud against the European Commission in C‑588/21 (Public.Resource.Org and Right to Know v. European Commission): https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=283443=0=EN=req==first=1=6375509 https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/p1_4324488/en/ I've

[Wikisource-l] Mourning in Canada

2022-11-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
From Michael Geist: «Not a surprise, but still disappointing. Canada makes copyright term extension official. Term extended to life + 70 years as of December 30th. New works entering the public domain lost for a generation.» https://mas.to/@mgeist/109394731754194423

[Wikisource-l] Job: Senior Program Officer, Libraries at Wikimedia Foundation

2022-07-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sorry if this was already mentioned on the list, I didn't see it: «The Wikimedia Foundation is looking for a Senior Program Officer, Libraries. In this role, you will work at the intersection of librarianship and the Wikimedia movement to grow and diversify information sources—in all

[Wikisource-l] Re: MediaWiki, Wikisource extensions, and new implementations deployment

2021-11-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
There's a lot of activity recently on the ProofreadPage extension. It seems a good thing to me: thanks to all involved! I didn't see which commit exactly is at fault, but the first step is usually to note breaking changes on the commit message and add a user-info tag on the task so that it

Re: [Wikisource-l] Systems for proofreading scanned books

2020-12-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks Lars for launching this very important conversation! I think it makes us think of an important topic, that is: what is Wikisource (and its software) actually for? See also some old iterations: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Role_of_Wikisource I think that some limitations of Wikisource

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: Can You Help us Make the 19th Century Searchable?

2020-08-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Classic Wikisource issues Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:Can You Help us Make the 19th Century Searchable? Data: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 20:32:17 + Mittente: Brewster Kahle Can

Re: [Wikisource-l] Automatic text tagging and annotation

2020-07-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
What kind of tagging and annotation do you have in mind? Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Brand Project] Next naming phase

2020-06-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 19/06/20 10:58: Still, I think that the name "Wikipedia" overtaking the whole movement is a bad symbol and an invisibilization of other Wikimedia projects. Yes, so Wikisource users (and all other Wikimedia projects too) should make their specific concerns heard. It

[Wikisource-l] Publishers sue the Internet Archive

2020-06-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Publishers complain that the Internet Archive's scans are both too good and too bad. Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikisource-l] Carl Malamud has won: the law is in the public domain

2020-04-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/georgia-loses-legal-code-copyright-clash-at-supreme-court Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list

Re: [Wikisource-l] Google Books resumes scanning, in Antwerp

2020-03-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Klaus Graf, 25/03/20 18:18: Where is the proof that there was a hiatus? I doubt anyone has proof of anything with Google Books. But many had written about it, see for instance: [...] And so on. Yes, they're

[Wikisource-l] Google Books resumes scanning, in Antwerp

2020-03-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
After a few years of near hiatus, it seems that Google Books has found a new partner, the city of Antwerp. They had been scouting for a while now, looking for a partner willing to scan at least 100k books.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

2019-12-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 13/12/19 12:21: If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00 (1 pm) UTC Thank you. I have the assembly of another association at the same time so I can't attend, but I'll read the notes. This year I may be able to attend the meeting, if you find

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimania

2019-07-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lars Aronsson, 28/07/19 02:57: Welcome to Sweden! Is anybody interested in seeing the inside of some libraries, while in Stockholm? Yes! I'm in Stockholm the entire week so for me the 12th would be fine as well, especially for Uppsala which is one of the places I have not yet planned for.

[Wikisource-l] Amazon eBook Quality Issues Dashboard

2019-06-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I wonder if this is a response to the usual complaints about plagiarised so-called "books" on Amazon. Federico Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:Announcing your new eBook Quality Issues Dashboard Data: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 08:38:35 + Hello, As a valued KDP publisher,

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: Before the CJEU soon: the question of digital exhaustion

2019-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Uh-oh... More "fun" soon, shortly after and debates. Federico Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Takedown of BUB book on Internet Archive

2019-03-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jane Darnell, 07/03/19 13:09: Thanks for this thread, guys, super interesting! Where can I subscribe to these notices ? The notices go to the email address of the account which uploaded to archive.org, in this case BUB's email. I have never received an email from archive.org

[Wikisource-l] Takedown of BUB book on Internet Archive

2019-03-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Seriously, a takedown for a 1870 book by an author died in 1902? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rawlinson https://books.google.com/books?id=5mwTYAAJ Federico Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto: archive.org item disabled Data: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:30:31 -0500 Mittente:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Everything will be Wikipedia

2019-02-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 08/02/19 05:19: I think, the recent blog in the Foundation site is the first step to do such things. Yeah, in general the WMF is always ready to give up all the good things in favour of the easy ones. The recent blog post is especially facepalm-worthy in that it tries to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Last days to vote Wikisource tech proposals

2018-12-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Cuenca Tudela, 04/12/18 13:05: We got one proposal in! " Improve export of electronic books " Now that PediaPress is back, I hope we can soon get the good old Collection

Re: [Wikisource-l] old toolbar is back

2018-11-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
ankry.wiki, 04/11/2018 02:42: We have restored in plwikisource the old, fast, light and efficient toolbar as a gadget: https://imgur.com/a/DFVhaeu Thanks for sharing. Direct link for those who don't run proprietary javascript: https://i.imgur.com/VkeebIb.jpg Federico

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikimedia affiliate/user group social media accounts

2018-10-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
a) What active accounts your affiliate uses on Facebook, Twitter, and any other social media networks? b) Who runs those accounts? c) Are there any other Wikimedia-related accounts you’ve managed in the past that are now inactive? Hi Audrie, please note that the correct place where to share

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

2018-10-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/10/2018 06:37: The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows- * লে হালুয়া

Re: [Wikisource-l] Question about Template:PD-RU-exempt

2018-09-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy, 22/09/2018 13:45: does this meant it include the statement or works of a person on behalf of a government agencies, like speech of Vladimir Putin as President of Russia, or others officer of Russian goverment about foreign affairs and so? I don't know specifically about

Re: [Wikisource-l] Public domain under attack in Norway

2018-06-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Federico Leva (Nemo), 20/06/2018 14:21: For instance, we could copy the whole pile of laws in Wikisource. I mean, the court decisions. http://www.wiumlie.no/2018/rettspraksis/06-11-blog.html Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l

[Wikisource-l] Public domain under attack in Norway

2018-06-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Can we do something about this? Website taken down and fined 10,800 € without due process for posting some PD-ineligible acts despite also waiting over 15 years for any possible sui generis rights to expire.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Carl Malamud is doing India

2018-05-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 28/04/2018 22:57: Where does he host the scanned documents? I think it all goes in this IA collection (400k items as of now): https://archive.org/details/digitallibraryindia Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list

Re: [Wikisource-l] Carl Malamud is doing India

2018-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 28/04/2018 18:19: Can we have the context here? I'm not sure to understand what this is about... Sorry, I thought you'd know him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud Many of us know him for his work around PACER. Looks like his archival projects are expanding to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Peter Meyer, 06/04/2018 14:59: Could we distill these issues online on a wiki page somewhere?   Or is it already done? (1) what are the significant differences between pdf and djvu (or some new version of djvu that we could imagine coming up with) I agree this is important to outline. For

Re: [Wikisource-l] 3, 500 Occult Manuscripts Will Be Digitized & Made Freely Available Online, Thanks to Da Vinci Code Author Dan Brown

2018-01-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Giordano Bruno is ready to be helped here! Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018 - Registration closes in one month!

2018-01-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andrea Zanni, 05/01/2018 12:34: Another possibility is that Vigneron and Balaji go, of course: an experienced member like Vigneron can and will be able to introduce Balaji to the right people. Indeed, it would be optimal to end up with a new effective duo. :) Federico

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018 - Registration closes in one month!

2017-12-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
mathieu stumpf guntz, 15/12/2017 22:33: I just wanted to make sure there will be some wikisourcerers at this event. Is that so? If one of the two designated WMIT board members falls sick I might have to go, otherwise I won't. The conference is very plethoric nowadays, so I see that 2

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Offline-l] FYI - WMF pausing and deprecating some functionality

2017-12-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 11/10/2017 20:32: should we try to integrate WSexport functionalities into more general tool? (for the second option, we need to exchange about our specific needs and desires). This was already done with mwlib for ZIM and EPUB, but then WMF trashed it. Three years ago we

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Offline-l] FYI - WMF pausing and deprecating some functionality

2017-12-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sam Wilson, 11/10/2017 12:56: Yes, I think Nicolas is right. OCG has never really done what Wikisource needed, But mwlib did. :) We should go back to the pre-OCG software, I guess. Federico ___ Wikisource-l mailing list

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Offline-l] FYI - WMF pausing and deprecating some functionality

2017-12-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Katz, 22/11/2017 03:29: The issue you raise, is a known issue being tracked and worked on here The issue I raise is that you should not make a change that makes life worse for all users. The feature is currently useless in 100 % of cases, so you should have rolled back immediately to the

[Wikisource-l] Hirtle at December 7 CopyTalk: Where oh where is the public domain?

2017-11-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Meet the human behind https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Hirtle_chart ! Federico Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto: [SCHOLCOMM] December 7 CopyTalk: Where oh where is the public domain? Data:

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Offline-l] FYI - WMF pausing and deprecating some functionality

2017-11-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
mpletely unreadable, with overlapping characters and so on. They're considerably worse even than the PDF produced by a stock browser from the printable version (Firefox 56 here). Even if the previous functionality happened to error out 95 % of the time, it would be better than the present situation. Fed

Re: [Wikisource-l] Endorsement of the strategy

2017-10-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 26/10/2017 18:23: Tough question! hard to say specifically but, here some of my random thoughts: Thanks. I'll try to re-read the whole thing with your points as an additional map/lense for it. What I saw previously was more "ondivago":

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gerard Meijssen, 12/10/2017 15:04: Given the discussion about finished books on the Korean Wikisource, I this demonstrates that we really need to advertise the finished books to a reading public. In Italy, after many years of talk with local libraries, the Wikisource books are included in

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Offline-l] FYI - WMF pausing and deprecating some functionality

2017-10-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Anne Gomez, 11/10/2017 02:12: In case you're interested, the Foundation will be working to replace OCG over the coming months. I wanted to make sure you're aware in case you rely on any of this infrastructure and/or have plans for further development dependent on it. What this means in the

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Export to LaTeX, EPub and Odt

2017-09-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dirk Hünniger, 28/09/2017 16:30: http://mediawiki2latex.wmflabs.org/ What about making the export to those formats available to wider public. Can we eventually bring these abandoned features back to the book creator. Could I help in such an effort. This is important, but I don't understand

Re: [Wikisource-l] IA Upload queue

2017-09-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sam Wilson, 12/09/2017 15:03: I'm not sure how to get around this. Probably by delegating the upload to a library which is able to use chuncked uploading, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Upload#Chunked_uploading Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing

Re: [Wikisource-l] Scans from the Library of Geneva

2017-08-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nice, it's always good to have more translations of Stevenson and Tolstoj. :) Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: Using Kakadu JPEG2000 Compression to Meet FADGI Standards

2017-08-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
FADGI is the Federal Agencies Digitization Guidelines Initiative: http://www.digitizationguidelines.gov/ The technical guideline has a number of sound suggestions: http://www.digitizationguidelines.gov/guidelines/digitize-technical.html (it also links dozens of English Wikipedia articles).

Re: [Wikisource-l] Stats

2017-07-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 28/07/2017 21:37: Just stumbled upon this link showing stats of different Wikisource projects. http://wikiscan.org/?menu=allsites=wikisource Yes, this also involved a grant: Nemo

Re: [Wikisource-l] disappearance of certain elements in editor in Tamil wkisource

2017-06-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Hopefully better for now: https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AInductiveload%2FRunning_header.js=revision=6849581=3987748 If you don't need the scripts any longer, empty your https://ta.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Balajijagadesh/common.js Nemo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Scanner for you?

2017-05-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for this update on the DIY scanner projects. Carles Paredes Lanau, 07/05/2017 20:18: You can check the books scanned in the following link: https://archive.org/details/bibliotecammb586 Only one? Or do you mean all the 89 items in https://archive.org/details/bibliotecammb ? people

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Strategy

2017-03-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
One issue sometimes raised about Wikisource is how we know that we're working on the "right" books. Internet Archive is planning to textbooks starting from those which are most frequently assigned in USA schools:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Strategy

2017-03-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Asaf Bartov, 19/03/2017 21:44: In such a world, what might Wikisource's unique value be? https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Make_Wikisource_scale Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] Any news about Bub upload tool?

2017-03-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The tool was mostly broken by some Labs changes (which some people have helped with a bit). Last time I checked, the books were downloaded, but the "upload checker" failed. I may try restarting stuff once again in the weekend to see if the dependencies now work. Federico

Re: [Wikisource-l] The conversion from PDF to DJVU loses too much quality

2017-01-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sam Wilson, 27/01/2017 00:10: On a related note: most (all?) IA-scanned books have e.g. *_jp2.zip files containing all the original scan images, but is there any standard for user-uploaded books? Like your librarians above, I assume they're uploading individual jpg/png files? Do these get

Re: [Wikisource-l] Drop OAI-PMH repository of Index: pages

2016-12-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sorry for the double message. Thomas PT, 30/12/2016 17:31: According to the Wikimedia PageView statistic tool Did you literally use https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews , or have you asked for real requests data? The pageviews API doesn't count requests to the OAI-PMH endpoint at all,

Re: [Wikisource-l] Indic Wikisource Update November 2016

2016-11-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 03/11/2016 15:33: It would be great if a common page in meta or mul.ws is created to document all the best practices, gadgets, tools, scripts which are used by every language communities specially the big ones. That would help the smaller communities to uplift

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata and mass import

2016-08-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Anika Born, 03/08/2016 21:05: maybe there is a bigger problem with that user? He just does a lot, let's not jump to conclusions. Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] [pywikibot] pdf library

2016-05-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alex Brollo, 13/05/2016 11:06: Simply, from a practital point iof view, my suggestion is: don't try to get a good djvu from IA pdf, use instead _jp2.zip images (after conversion to jpg the images are very good), and the result will be much better - almost as good as images into IA viewer, that

Re: [Wikisource-l] [pywikibot] pdf library

2016-05-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alex Brollo, 13/05/2016 09:02: I presume that this complex structure is somewhat similar of djvu background/foreground segmentation into djvu files, and artifacts are similar. Sure. So, pdf images are not only "compressed", but deeply processed and segmented images. ...which is what I

Re: [Wikisource-l] [pywikibot] pdf library

2016-05-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andrea Zanni, 12/05/2016 19:38: [1] https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Tarchetti_pdf.png [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATarchetti_-_Paolina.pdf=4 [3] https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Tarchetti_pdf.png That was meant to be

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tesseract Open Source OCR Engine

2016-04-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yes, Tesseract is used for many Wikisource books, mainly (?) via phe's tool https://github.com/phil-el/phetools/tree/master/hocr / https://tools.wmflabs.org/phetools/ You can search the archives to see some things that have been tried in the past, including http://terese.sourceforge.net/ .

Re: [Wikisource-l] [pywikibot] pdf library

2016-04-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Mark Vandenberg, 15/04/2016 02:19: Oh? Where I can read more about this policy change by IA? https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikisource-l/2016-March/002735.html Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] Large djvu files from IA

2016-03-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/03/2016 16:59: and many others. I have been noticing it for last 2-3 days. Before that, it was ok. There used to be in logs: => Target bub_gb_d7FGAumLBVAC.djvu : "DjVu" https://catalogd.archive.org/log/466680564 (3.9 days ago) Now I only see: Source

Re: [Wikisource-l] Large djvu files from IA

2016-03-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/03/2016 05:03: By the way, recently I noticed IA is not making djvu files for BUB uploads. Link? If we are uploading files without using BUB, then IA is creating djvu and there is no problem then. Can this be fixed? Might be https://github.com/rohit-dua/BUB/issues/49

Re: [Wikisource-l] Large djvu files from IA

2016-02-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 26/02/2016 20:38: Is it possible to transfer large djvu files (more than 100 mb) from Internet Archive to Commons? Sure, you can upload files up to 2 GB with the standard upload interface. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Maximum_file_size I have tried IA-upload

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2016-02-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nicolas VIGNERON, 21/02/2016 21:39: Maybe there is other alternatives but no one has pointed even the beginning of an option. It would be easier to point options if we had answers to the basic question "for which languages exactly do we need another OCR?".

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2016-02-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Trying to answer myself with some cleaning. So, which existing or potential Wikisources lack OCR with FineReader (and Tesseract?) but are interested in Google's, beyond Bengali? == Languages supported by FineReader, not Google == Abkhaz Adyghe Agul Altaic Avar Blackfoot Bugotu Buryat Chamorro

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2016-02-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 19/02/2016 18:02: And when we were getting some hope, Google announced that they will charge for doing OCR using their drive. https Makes sense. Is there any chance that WMF will go for negotiation with Google so that we can do the mass

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: Do most US authors still only enjoy a copyright term of life plus 50 in the EU?

2016-02-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Interesting article on the wonders of the rule of the shorter term (and of tight USA-Canada library distribution ties!): http://kluwercopyrightblog.com/2014/01/27/do-most-us-authors-still-only-enjoy-a-copyright-term-of-life-plus-50-in-the-eu/ Nemo

[Wikisource-l] New Google Books cover/copyright stance?

2016-02-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I stumbled upon a PDF from a Nationa Library of Naples scan: https://github.com/rohit-dua/BUB/files/132335/Comedy_of_the_Mistake_By_Sir_John_Vanbru.pdf The usual ugly menace in the first page (arguably copyfraud) disappeared, instead I only see once sentence: «This is a reproduction of a

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-02-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ad Huikeshoven, 08/02/2016 22:09: Please let me know if anything is missing at Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikisource-l mailing list does have. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse#What_we.27d_lose_.28user_experience.29 Nemo ___

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Optical Character Recognition software now works with all South Asian languages

2016-01-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Federico Leva (Nemo), 30/08/2015 09:38: Note that Google terms of use are very restrictive. It seems the Google Drive API doesn't have specific terms of use, only the generic ones at https://developers.google.com/terms/ Relevant passages may be: 5e. Prohibitions on Content Unless expressly

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Mark Vandenberg, 20/01/2016 01:57: A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia. Indeed. We don't have enough information to make any decision or even start considering things yet. I found my

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I end up on a discourse website I end up crying. Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export features. I thought I had added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but

Re: [Wikisource-l] Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 11/01/2016 11:12: Nemo, yeah, I was talking about a bot which can use the said IA upload tool. Ok. I wrote such a bot: https://github.com/nemobis/BEIC/blob/master/BEIC-ia2commons.rb Most of the work is in finding and parsing the metadata. The Internet Archive metadata is

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarship Deadline for Wikimania is Today

2016-01-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Reminder! Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:[Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarship Deadline for Wikimania is Today Data: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:55:30 -0600 Mittente: Ellie Young Reminder: Scholarship applications for Wikimania 2016 which is being held in Esino Lario, Italy on

[Wikisource-l] BUB is back

2016-01-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
FYI Rohit is being as fantastic as usual again. * https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3Atools.bub=-publicdate * https://github.com/rohit-dua/BUB/pulse Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2016-01-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/12/2015 16:35: 3) I cannot tell about other Indic languages, but I can say that Bengali is not included in FineReader version of IA. Ok, thanks for answering my question. What other languages are we interested in that are missing? See

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2015-12-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/12/2015 16:06: Thanks for your interest. You can find the list of Google OCR supported languages in the following link - https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en Yes but that's very generic, for instance they don't say what level of support they have. Most

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

2015-12-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for posting about the topic. Which indic languages are we talking about exactly? Are they included in the recent FineReader versions now used by Internet Archive? Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum

2015-11-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
billinghurst, 28/11/2015 11:40: Please go and write an essay about the matter at https://wikisource.org/ referencing the original argument for the split, and how the reintroduction of a single site would be of value, and how it might be done. In fact how it will be better than now. Otherwise

Re: [Wikisource-l] Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum

2015-11-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mathieu Stumpf Guntz, 29/11/2015 18:57: What about having both central and local versions? I mean, for community stuffs localization is clearly a big pro, and those who are more interesting to get extra-localized works could go to the central repository which would gather all localized

Re: [Wikisource-l] Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum

2015-11-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Asaf Bartov, 29/11/2015 14:40: One significant advantage of per-language Wikisources is that the interface language is appropriate That's a bug, as well: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58464 I agree it's shameful that WMF doesn't fix the most fundamental bugs which make collaboration

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Introducing WikiToLearn to developers

2015-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Your code modifications for http://wikitolearn.org/ are interesting. I'm pretty sure that KDE policies don't force you to fork MediaWiki extensions locally, so your patches are definitely welcome upstream. I'm not sure what you mean with your point about being rejected by the community;

Re: [Wikisource-l] Scribe

2015-11-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andrea Zanni, 24/11/2015 10:36: This seems pretty interesting... http://www.nypl.org/blog/2015/11/23/scribe-framework-community-transcription A new transcription framework, from a collaboration between New York Public Library and Zooniverse (!!). Quite confusing that they use the same name as

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Invitation to Wikimania 2016 Scholarship Committee

2015-11-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Still a couple days available to offer yourself as Wikimania scholarships committee member, or as ambassador for your community. Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:[Wikimania-l] Invitation to Wikimania 2016 Scholarship Committee Data: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 21:11:05 + (UTC)

[Wikisource-l] FineReader 11 on Internet Archive

2015-10-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Today I rehearsed ScanTailor and unpaper to upload a rare book from WWI: https://archive.org/details/lettere-ferrovieri-patria I noticed the OCR is now "ABBYY FineReader 11"; IA only recently switched to 9 after many years on 8, this seems good news. If I see correctly, 11 claims: New and

Re: [Wikisource-l] Watermark on Google scan.

2015-10-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy, 20/10/2015 17:18: Suppose that in future Google litigation Wikipedia for removing the page of Google claiming copyright The watermark is removed by the user, not by "Wikipedia". The user of course may be considered a criminal in USA (everyone is a criminal in USA; see

Re: [Wikisource-l] Large uploads to Wikisource

2015-10-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Arne Wossink, 15/10/2015 12:18: Wikimedia Nederland has recently approached by several institutions that would like to do uploads of source material. Wikisource would be the preferred platform for this as the material would be searchable (which it wouldn't be if it was only uploaded as pdf to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Muiple page move to subpage with a fix Title/Subpage

2015-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jayanta Nath, 17/09/2015 19:55: Hi All, Are ther any bot or utility/tool for Muiple page move to subpage with a fix Title/Subpage. I'm afraid your best chance is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/movepages.py Nemo ___ Wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tech issues

2015-09-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Philippe Elie, 12/09/2015 04:44: FF 38 saw the page as a page redirected in a way FF can't solve. That was https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106793 , which also broke some JavaScripts or styles, but Erasmo said his problem happened with Chrome too. Nemo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tech issues

2015-09-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
What error do you see? Something like "connection refused"? How does your computer connect to the internet? Do things improve if you delete your cookies for the domains which don't work? Do you manage to perform some basic networking diagnostic e.g. with http://winmtr.net/ ? Nemo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Optical Character Recognition software now works with all South Asian languages

2015-08-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for forwarding. Jayanta Nath, 30/08/2015 00:50: Any how can it be implemented in Proofread extension? With manual copy and paste only, as far as I can see. I don't think Google Drive has any API to extract text from uploaded files, though someone should check

Re: [Wikisource-l] An idea for a diacritic marks tool

2015-07-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alex Brollo, 28/07/2015 09:00: Much faster and comfortable than the usual, painful search for the needed exotic character into Special characters or into a Unicode table. abcTajpu often saved me: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/abctajpu/ Nemo

[Wikisource-l] Hackathon events

2015-05-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I realised that in the hectic series of introductions, chats, tutorials and i18n fixes I forgot to look at what other Wikisource people were doing at the hackathon other than the Wikisource table where https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2015/Program Tpt and Coren stood out

Re: [Wikisource-l] VIAF aligning to Wikidata is helpful for Wikisource

2015-03-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Daniel Mietchen, 29/03/2015 03:06: So I assume that it would be best for VIAF to only link to the corresponding Wikidata item, from where all relevant pages across Wikimedia projects and languages can be reached. Indeed. That's what I thought they would be doing... Nemo

[Wikisource-l] The Chinese government cares about Wikisource

2015-03-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
«According to the report on zhwiki and tests on greatfire.org, only http://zh.wikisource.org/, http://zh.wikinews.org/, and http://ug.wikipedia.org/ are still blocked, which I think are blocked based on URL rather than IP. All other Wikimedia sites, (http and https) are not blocked now.»

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: Proposal: restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites

2015-02-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Please participate in the global discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Proposal:_restore_normal_editing_permissions_on_all_mobile_sites [...] What few know is that the mobile sites don't follow the standard permission system: instead, they override permissions and

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Book extension and navigation

2015-01-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bjoern, I don't know whether BookManagerv2 is able to feed Collection; I asked a few months ago at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28448#302254 (cc Raylton), you could file the request as separate bug. A comment says «Extension:BookManager, which provides both automatic navigation and

Re: [Wikisource-l] Structured data: use of schema.org's structured data for Wikisource works (or similar)

2014-12-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
There's always been a lot of discussion about page metadata and microdata but never any conclusion. At some point I was tricked into believing that it.source used microdata (https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Progetto:Qualità/Semantizzazione ?), but clearly it doesn't.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Again on funding for sister projects

2014-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Juan de Vojníkov, 28/11/2014 15:10: I thought WMF board is chosen by Wikimedians Wrong. Nemo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Again on funding for sister projects

2014-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Juan de Vojníkov, 28/11/2014 19:28: Really? And what are those elections on Meta time by time. Assistance to cooptation. Can we chose our representatives in WMF leading body? * Representatives are not allowed by WMF bylaws according to WMF legal. ** «Board members are required by law to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Again on funding for sister projects

2014-11-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Pierre-Yves Beaudouin, 26/11/2014 12:53: Again, money is not the problem. Well, APG is about money so they talk about money there. But I do remember WMF coming at us and asking what's the legitimacy of spending resources (not necessarily financial) on sister projects. That drives me crazy.

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