Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
2017-10-31 13:16 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > Sorry, I am much more of a Wikidatan than a Wikisourcerer! I was referring > to items like this one > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21125368 > No need to be sorry, that is actually a good question and this example is even better (I

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Andrea Zanni
For the "work" concept, Italian Wikisource decided to create a real and new namespace, "Opera" (which means work). It's the one page where we store the links to multiple editions of a certain book we have. It's not a disambiguation page in the sense that a disambiguation page works with different

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Thomas Pellissier Tanon
Hello Sam, Thank you for this nice feature! I have created a few months ago a prototype of Wikisource to Wikidata importation tool for the French Wikisource based on the schema.org annotation I have added to the main header template (I definitely think we should move from our custom

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Thomas Pellissier Tanon
An other point: here is a link to your 'Wikidata project" on the french Wikisource. We plan to build here to document what we do around Wikisource: https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Projet_Wikidata Sorry for the spam, Cheers, Thomas > Le 31 oct. 2017 à 16:14, Thomas Pellissier Tanon

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
2017-10-31 18:45 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni : > For the "work" concept, Italian Wikisource decided to create a real and > new namespace, "Opera" (which means work). > It's the one page where we store the links to multiple editions of a > certain book we have. > > It's not a

[Wikisource-l] Hangout session

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi everyone, >From January to April of this year, we had hangout session to talk more directly about Wikisource (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group#2017 for the notes of these sessions). Among subjects that can be discuss: - Wikisource and Wikidata (and some

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Andrea Zanni
>From a Wikidata point of view, it's really good to have one dedicated page ofr the "work" and different ones for the "editions": you can structure both Wikisource and Wikidata with a clear structure, without ambiguities. This is an example of a Wikisource Work page:

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Sam Wilson
And I guess that's independent of the actual titles of the editions? I mean, different editions could have different titles, but you'd still list them all on the same Opera page? So, if we were focusing only on pages that are not yet linked to Wikidata, for Italian it'd be easy in that anything in

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
We want the disambiguation pages on Wikisource - I checked a few of these and there are a lot of women and "younger sons" in them that we want. Also, many can be connected to existing "family of ..." pages or name disambiguation pages - they definitely help enrich our understanding of the problems

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Sam Wilson
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, at 04:04 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > 2017-10-31 5:21 GMT+01:00 Sam Wilson : >> I've just been experimenting with adding a quick-statements generator to >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search — search for something, with 'linked >> to wikidata = no',

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
> > Yes it's certainly a first draft!! :-) Thanks for trying it out. > > With the disambig pages, can you suggest how to detect them? > Not sure. Could you detect the presence of the Q6148868 templates ? (and same thing for Q15701815 ). Or else maybe with the categories. > Ah, there's a couple

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
2017-10-31 5:21 GMT+01:00 Sam Wilson : > I've just been experimenting with adding a quick-statements generator to > https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search — search for something, with 'linked > to wikidata = no', and then each row of the results has a popup with > code you can

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
2017-10-31 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > We want the disambiguation pages on Wikisource - I checked a few of these > and there are a lot of women and "younger sons" in them that we want. Also, > many can be connected to existing "family of ..." pages or name > disambiguation

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
Sorry, I am much more of a Wikidatan than a Wikisourcerer! I was referring to items like this one https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21125368 On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2017-10-31 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > >> We

Re: [Wikisource-l] Hangout session

2017-10-31 Thread Sam Wilson
Great idea! I'm up for this Saturday. On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, at 03:03 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi everyone, > From January to April of this year, we had hangout session to talk > more directly about Wikisource (see > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group#2017 > for