Re: [Wikisource-l] Activity statistics

you ThomasV. Just to use the opportunity: please be patient since I'm new here, perhaps my question has been answered before. Can I access by API to Page: quality? Is there a (simple) help about? Thanks! Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wik

Re: [Wikisource-l] Activity statistics

T 2010/4/26 ThomasV > Alex Brollo a écrit : > > Can I access by API to Page: quality? Is there a (simple) help about? > > Thanks! > not specifically, but you can access the categories of any page using > the API > > Thanks. Is API *prop=categories *the right

[Wikisource-l] The second parameter of Iwpage

I dragged a little into the very interesting template Iwpage, but I couldn't fine a doc about its second parameter, and about the related Lst. Is there some work in progress? Where can I find some doc about if any? -- Alex_brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailin

Re: [Wikisource-l] Improvements

2010/5/11 Michael Jörgens > Only if the chapter is without a name, when there are Names they should be > linked by names. > And if more than one chapter / item is on a page the schould be possible > too. A lot of books eg "Die Gartenlaube" have several items (chapters) > articles on one page an t

Re: [Wikisource-l] Improvements

2010/5/11 John Vandenberg > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > > Is it true that {{header|previous= |next= }} must be filled > > in manually for each chapter? > > On English Wikisource we have a gadget which does this. It only works > in Firefox. > > http://en.wikisource.or

Re: [Wikisource-l] Improvements

2010/5/12 Michael Jörgens > This may work on chapters, but I dislike replacing the true name by a > number. And it wo't work on Books with poems were this two pointers got to > the name of the previous and next poem. And it won't work on magazines, with > lot of articles in. > > 2010/5/11 Billing

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tiny or huge chapters

2010/6/18 Lars Aronsson > I'm proofreading a book, a biographic dictionary, which lists > information about 7500 people on 810 pages. Each person has > 3-4 lines of text. > I'm really very interested into the reply, and I can't wat for it. What's the most convenient approach, between large or sm

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010/6/29 Michael Jörgens > Just to clarify, > I disagree with "The bridge between ThomasV and de.WS has been burnt." > > We have strong controverse discussions and still different viewpoints - > unfortunately there is no movement of ThomasV in any of his statements. But > we must use ThomasV wor

[Wikisource-l] A transclusion issue

I added to Common.css this code: div.indent {} .indent p { *margin-top*: 0em *margin-bottom*: 0em *margin-left*: 2.5em; *text-indent*: -2.5em; } suggested by css trick to manage poem tag. This code inverts indentation into all inside a div class="i

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010/7/5 ThomasV > > The "Index" namespace is probably not as necessary > as the "Page" namespace; if wikisource was using only > djvu or pdf files, it would indeed be possible to go away > with it, and to use the "File:" page for that purpose. > However, there are still lots of projects that do

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010/7/5 ThomasV > > Maybe I can provide answers to that question... at fr.ws we now have > lots of contributions to the "Page:" namespace, and I think that we have > a good experience on how to teach beginners on that. > > I guess the hardest concept to explain is transclusion ; this should not

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010/7/5 Lars Aronsson > > I agree that having two structures (physical pages > and chapters) is a challenge (I even wrote a paper > about this, eleven years ago), but the introduction > of the Page: namespace is not without problems. Very interesting, this is another piece of talk I'd like to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Partnership with the French National Library

2010/7/15 Federico Leva (Nemo) > > > > May I mention > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Make_Wikisource_scale ? > There are some references, numbers and so on. > > Nemo Mi accodo per informarvi che anche it.source è, in qualche modo, entrata in questo progetto: infatti Vigneron ci

Re: [Wikisource-l] Dublin Core and TEI

2010/7/18 Ray Saintonge > Perhaps it's because these systems are designed by obsessives for > obsessives. > > > > It's all very nice to have organizing metadata, and meticulous accuracy in > our text, but in our search for perfection we lose sight of our objective of > making the information avai

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource (was: Re: Partnership with the French National Library)

2010/7/21 Hélène Pedrosa-Masson > > Wikisource may aim towards being a repository of sources for > Wikipedia. But IMHO it is not its only goal. In French Wikisource, we > proofread some novels and short stories... and we would like them to > be available in e-pub and pdf: now many people read on

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource

2010/7/21 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Lars Aronsson, 21/07/2010 17:32: > > On 07/21/2010 01:56 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > >> Dictionaries! Wiktionary is the place where you still can give small > >> "easy" contributions (as well as Wikiquote, but not bigger Wikipedias) > I tested a simple scri

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource

2010/7/22 Federico Leva (Nemo) > > I think it isn't. "Linguistico" folks have done this > (http://linguistico.sourceforge.net/pages/start.html , their dictionary > is used by OpenOffice, Firefox etc.) and anyway a list of words is not > so useful for Wiktionary, what is needed are definitions. >

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource

2010/7/26 John Vandenberg > I think Wiktionary does want to include examples of the words 'in > use', and Wikisource can provide this. > > Linking to Wikisource is encouraged on English Wiktionary. e.g. > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demirep > > If you create a list of words used in a book, it

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource

2010/7/28 Lars Aronsson > > Wiktionary can need many things, coverage of common > words as well as examples of how to use uncommon words. > > From the Swedish Wikisource, I extracted the body text and > made a word frequency list, > This is very interesting. Can you tell us more details about?

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource

2010/7/29 Lars Aronsson > > My code for extracting the body text from the XML dumps > has not been published. But Erik Zachte has published his > code for extracting "readable text", and maybe you can use that. > See http://stats.wikimedia.org/scripts.zip > It's only a lot of regular expressions

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bangla (bn) Wikisource latest milestone

2010/8/1 Belayet Hossain > Hi, > Bangla (bn) Wikisource (bn.wikisource.org) has been crossed 5,000 pages > milestone. > > Belayet > -- > Belayet Hossain > http://www.facebook.com/bellayet > http://twitter.com/bellayet > http://bellayet.wordpress.com (Bangla) > Knowledge is universal >

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

Thanks! I just tried to build a template like this: [[File:Library-logo-blue-outline.png|30px|link= http://toolserver.org/~magnus/book2scroll/index.html ?lang=it&file={{urlencode:{{PAGENAME]], to be used into Index: pages. But urlencode converts spaces into +, where your script doesn't like

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010/8/16 Magnus Manske > > > Not at all, though > > http://toolserver.org/~magnus/book2scroll/index.html?lang=it&file=De%27+matematici+italiani+anteriori+all%27invenzione+della+stampa.djvu

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010/8/17 Billinghurst > Hi Magnus, > > The tool has choked on something for > > http://toolserver.org/~magnus/book2scroll/index.html?lang=en&file=Mrs_Caudle%2527s_curtain_lectures.djvu&startpage=1

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010/8/17 Alex Brollo Marcus, a challenge for you... http://toolserver.org/~magnus/book2scroll/index.html?lang=it&file=Hymnus_in_Romam.djvu&startpage=9<http://toolserver.org/%7Emagnus/book2scroll/index.html?lang=it&file=Hymnus_in_Romam.djvu&startpage=9> This is a tex

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010/8/17 Magnus Manske > > > Now reloads transcluded pages from the correct language automatically, > no textlang parameter neccessary! > > Magnus > Great! :-) Alex ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Wikisource-l] quality0 and transclusion

2010/9/15 > Dear all, > > I am planning to modify the tag, so that content from pages marked > as "empty" (quality0) will either not be transcluded at all, or will be > transcluded without page number, and without appending a newline character. > > Thanks ThomasV, a great idea IMHO. I found that

Re: [Wikisource-l] quality0 and transclusion

2010/9/16 John Vandenberg > > This is a good idea in general. > > However, I suspect that pages consisting only of images have been > marked on en.ws as quality0. > Yes,you're right; really there's some ambiguity in the meaning of Quality0, it can be used to mark pages that need no transclusion

Re: [Wikisource-l] new statistics

2010/10/4 ThomasV > > However, texts without scans are *harmful* to Wikisource. > > .. > Wikisource will not be trustable until we stop accepting texts without > scans. > > And no matter how virtuous some subdomains are, I think that the reputation > of Wikisource as a whole strongly depends

[Wikisource-l] News from it.source

Please take a look here: http://toolserver.org/~thomasv/graphs/Wikisource_-_texts_it.png We are happy to let you know that, thanks to Match and Split tool by ThomasV, installed just some days ago, there's a very small, but mostly interesting, change into the graph: as you can see, naked texts are

[Wikisource-l] Highlighted targets for anchor links

We use in it.source (and the idea has been exported into some other projects) a template, who builds a user defined, invisible anchor and "marks" some text near the anchor; the marked text will be highlighed (with a coloured background) only when the anchor is the target of a link (coming from eve

Re: [Wikisource-l] Slides on Wikisource (and sister-projects)

2010/10/20 Andrea Zanni > Thank you John. > My slides are here ( > http://wikimedia.it/images/Wikisource_-_Napoli_2007.odp), > but they are *bad* (and in Italian). > > It is really disappointing how few material there is about > sister-project, and particularly Wikisource. > I'll try to translate

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bozza messaggio per wikisource-l (non inviato: usalo tu come vuoi)

adata, and SemanticMediaWiki is not used for some reasons I > understand only partially (security and scalability issues, as far as I > know). > > Thus, what I'm gonna present you is just a proposal, made by Alex Brollo, > in the quick-and-dirty DIY style that we see often in

Re: [Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans

2010/10/26 Klaus Graf > Roma locuta causa finita. > > There is no need to discuss things which have been discussed enough. > If you have another position feel free to make an own project in > Italia. > > The NPG affair has changed NOTHING. > > I am fairly sure that European law forbids copyrighti

[Wikisource-l] Two banal js question

I'm thinking about a js script to transform on the fly, when editing a page, the content of a template/of a page into a form (something like what happens when editing Index: pages), converting it back to normal text at upload; it's the main way to help any user to post good, decently standardized c

[Wikisource-l] ePub from source books

Is someone of you working on automation of conversion of wikisource texts into ePub format? I'm thinking about (just thinking!); I can't choose among two alternatives: to start from wiki markup or from html produced by servers... and perhaps there's some other alternative too. Alex __

[Wikisource-l] Div width: any drawback using percent?

Whan studying and testing code for lateral notes from suggestions into fr.source, I noted that the code is extremely simplified simply stating width of our div class="testi" (used for the large majority of texts in Ns0) as* width:45%* instead of *width:33em*. All the code needed for a right latera

[Wikisource-l] A troublesome page structure: suggestions needed

I'm happy to let you know that it.source community started a project to build one, or more, transcriptions "with scans" of Alighieri's Divina Commedia; presently it.source has only a "naked" version. An authoritative comments is that by Lana: http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Indice:Commedia_-_Inferno

[Wikisource-l] Proposal: two desirable ParserFunctions

I can't "open a bug" (bugzilla is very confusing for me) and I don't know how to browse old proposals/requests, so I feel better to post here two ideas, just to let you revise them and - if you like - to go on into bugzilla. 1. I'd like to have a {{nbsp:string}} function, to replace all spaces wi

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal: two desirable ParserFunctions

2010/12/14 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Alex Brollo, 14/12/2010 09:10: > > > 1. I'd like to have a {{nbsp:string}} function, to replace all spaces > > with   html entities into string. It would very useful to format > > table cell content where spaces must be avoided,

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal: two desirable ParserFunctions

2010/12/14 Alex Brollo > > > 2010/12/14 Federico Leva (Nemo) > >> Alex Brollo, 14/12/2010 09:10: >> >> > 1. I'd like to have a {{nbsp:string}} function, to replace all spaces >> > with   html entities into string. It would very useful to form

[Wikisource-l] Happy new year.... and a general question

tics? I guess, that many users will get lots of advantages, if they could use more largely html/css, and if they would be encouraged to go deeper and depper into html/css language studying excellent tutorials as those of w3c schools. Alex brollo ___

[Wikisource-l] About #lst hacking

Here a quote from a current thread into wikitech-l. Using #lst to implement variables into wikitext is really "a terrible hack" in your opinion too...? If it is, I feel myself really uncomfortable and depressed... :-( I'd like a clear statement about, and - if needed - clearly stated limits in the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011/2/20 Seb35 > A quick link I just received: > > http://www.digitalkoot.fi (in English also) > > It seems there are two Facebook games whose the aim is precisely to > correct OCRs. > > Sébastien > > Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:16:15 +0100, Seb35 wrote: > > Hi Andrea, > > > > I saw VIGNERON and Jean

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

; > PS: I had another idea in a slightly different application field (roughtly > speaking automated validation of texts) but close of this one, I write an > email next week about that (already some notes in > <http://wikisource.org/wiki/User:Seb35/Reverse_OCR>). > I'll take a look with great interest. Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

share ideas and scripts! Some user is working about here and there, but perhaps a meeting point is needed. PS: in our it.wiki talks, we call "Wikisource djvu" the same idea that you call "Reverse_OCR". :-) Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

be really bold, I'd been confused and intimidated by your software competence I hardly know what C++ and toolserver SVN is. :-). I don't use at all python imaging as PIL, I only use djvuLibre routines, using python to call them, to manage their input/output features and to m

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

I took al fast look to Help:Djvu pages (with different names into different projects) in Commons:, en.source, fr.source; I found interesting suggestions about djvu files but I didn't find a detailed help about djvu text layer, nor about its manipulation. So, I imagine that such a page could be real

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011/2/21 Seb35 > > I would say wikisource.org since DjVu are mainly used on WS (there are a > few DjVuS outside WS but not many many, perhaps inside institutions). If > you are interested by the DjVu, you can browse > , but DjVu specifications are quite > unreadab

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

> 2011/2/21 Seb35 > >> >> I would say wikisource.org since DjVu are mainly used on WS (there are a >> few DjVuS outside WS but not many many, perhaps inside institutions). >> > All is ready to start: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Dragging_into_djvu_text_layer See you there if

[Wikisource-l] New ref syntax and transclusion

I found the new syntax ... .. ... A smart solution for a difficult trouble (splitted notes into different pages). But I didn't find the way to use effectively, in nsPage, the syntax It would be great to use it in nsPage, to let "in place" references to enhance text readibility

Re: [Wikisource-l] Writing reviews in Google Book Search

2011/4/21 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Lars Aronsson, 21/04/2011 09:03: > > I found out that I can write reviews in Google Book Search. > > I didn't know this feature existed, so maybe it's new. > > > Is this something we should do systematically? There are > > 24 volumes in the Swedish Wikisource al

[Wikisource-l] How to get values of mediawiki php configuration variables

Digging into it.source statistics, I'd need to read the corrent value of it.source $wgContentNamespaces<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgContentNamespaces> . Can I get it as a user or a sysop? If not, who have I to ask for?

[Wikisource-l] Proofread 1000px page thumb bug

strada a guide di ferro da Venezia a Milano.djvu|page=94|900px]]. The first one is wrong, the second one is right. What's happening? Is it a matter of patience only? Is there some trick to force a remote, exotic cache purging? Alex brollo ___ Wikis

Re: [Wikisource-l] Dynamic PageList installed for each Wikisource

Great news! :-) I encourage anyone to go deep into category intersection "philosophy"; it's very important to build an effective category tree, t.i. a "fully populated one", breaking the rule "categorize into the most detailed category only." Alex ___ W

[Wikisource-l] A simple html structure to store metadata

While exploring lots of tricks to store and retrieve data/metadata into the simpler way, I found thar this html structure: content where css states that .metadata {display:none;} is an excellent, invisible data container, accessible both to a js into a local page and by a bot parsing html of th

Re: [Wikisource-l] A simple html structure to store metadata

extension, with a extremely low server load (almost nothing!), producing a shared, identical set of metadata from any wikisource project perfectly machine-usable; i.e. what's needed as a basic step to build good epub version of source works, but many other applications can be though

Re: [Wikisource-l] Image filter on Wikisource

On 24 Sep 2011 at 11:15, John Vandenberg wrote: > > > The image filter that the WMF is planning is intended to be deployed > > on all Wikimedia projects. A lot of the design and discussion is > > about Wikipedia, and primarily English Wikipedia. I think we need to > > petition for Wikisource to b

[Wikisource-l] Persisting wrong thumbs of djvu pages in view mode

We fixed a djvu file adding some missing pages. Now, something strange appears. Take a look at http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Pagina:Delle_strade_ferrate_e_della_loro_futura_influenza_in_Europa.djvu/206. Then enter in edit mode. The thumb showed in view mode comes from the old, wrong page; the thumb

Re: [Wikisource-l] Persisting wrong thumbs of djvu pages in view mode

N 2011/11/10 Federico Leva (Nemo) > > > I purged the file on Commons, this should remove all thumbnails; I > reloaded the page in edit mode, it showed a black square, then it loaded > a new image, is it correct? > > Nemo > > Yes. it is correct; but what is wrong is, that in view mode a different

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

I'm going to upgrade my licensed FineReader 10 to FineReader 11 (so that it.source too will have a volunteer with a legal FineReader 11 software... :-) ), I downloaded the trial software and I can confirm that it produces a complete djvu file (images and text layer) within a single step. Text laye

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Commons-l] [cultural-partners] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

2011/11/29 Lars Aronsson > On 11/28/2011 10:23 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > > [...] FineReader 11 [...] produces a complete djvu file [...] Text > > layer hasn't full range of details, it's organized into two levels > > (page and line), while OCR engine on IA servers

[Wikisource-l] Vertical vs lateral view toggle script: where's the code?

o set, as suggested by www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page, var proofreadpage_default_layout='horizontal'; into my vector.js to obtain a default vertical layout with no result. Some users love this layout, I'd like to help them! Where am I wrong?

Re: [Wikisource-l] Vertical vs lateral view toggle script: where's the code?

Our excellent user Samuele Papa found out the code (I can't imagine where...). So we could write a small gadget as a temporary patch. I find much easier to write a simple js patch than to post a bug into bugzilla. :-) Anyway: thanks. Alex ___ Wikisource

Re: [Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

I all, I'm new into the talk, I'm a it.sorce user. About the interesting Aubrey's onion model, I just discovered basic AJAX tricks, they are great do change the contents of a page using data stored into different pages and/or javascript variables (as wgUserName) and/or preferences or gadgets. So,

[Wikisource-l] AJAX sharing of Commons data/metadata

ke, I'm sharing a practical test use of this trick into > wikisource.org too, you can import User:Alex brollo/Library.js and a lot > of smallo, original scripts will be loaded; click on "metadata" botton from > any page connected to a File: page ( namespaces Index, Page) and

[Wikisource-l] Proofreading bug: Change not allowed

When proofreading pages in it.wikisource, we are plagued by this message: Change not allowed - You are not allowed to change the proofreading status of this page Going back to failed page, we noted that: 1. quality level is reverted to 1; 2. anything stored into header has been lost; 3. proofread

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading bug: Change not allowed

Thanks Thomas. I'll try to review any it.wikisource specific routine linked to upload event into nsPage. The bug - more or less - is some weeks old, and it seems linked to changes into proofread page extension. We already fixed some bugs springing out from changes in Index form names, but this bug

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading bug: Change not allowed

2012/11/10 Thomas PT > Hi! >> This bug is very strange. Its looks like it append only on italian >> Wikisource, so I think that one of your common.js script of gadget cause >> the bug. >> This bug is impradicable it might be caused by a change of execution >> order of two script, by example your

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource things: grant proposal, wikidata

alk page of Wikidata:Books_task_force<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force>: a definite, possibly general definition of "book" entity (and of "written work" entity). Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] RfC on Wikidata about books metadata

If I can add a comment, I suggest that Commons should be included into wikidata net as soon as possible, since it shares with wikidata its feature of being "a unique container" and book metadata are already shared between all wikisource projects and Commons for a central group of works (the "proofr

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

Is there any project to build a shared library of Lua routines for wikisource projects? I feel that Lua could give to source projects an excellent opportunity to align templates, formats and metadata structures. In the meantime, I'm browsing fr.source :-) Alex 2013/5/22 Klein,Max > --

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

I'm going to take my initial, painful steps into Lua; @Cristian, how many users are using/going to use Scribuntu into it.wikipedia? I see that Modulo: namespace already has been populated a little bit, I'll take a good look to scripts, even if wikipedia templates/scripts are always very complex an

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

@ David: once more I rediscovered the wheel... thanks for link, I put it as top link in my "useful links" list :-) Alex 2013/5/23 Alex Brollo > I'm going to take my initial, painful steps into Lua; @Cristian, how many > users are using/going to use Scribuntu into it.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

that it's difficult to highlight words into a textarea by js. Can be, that VisualEditor could make things easier. Alex 2013/5/24 Andrea Zanni > I completely agree with Lars. > I remember, for example, an awesome tool from Alex Brollo, postOCR, > a js script which corrects autom

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

o see if something is free in both > Sweden/Finland > and USA, especially since we have to consider URAA. > >*Från:* Alex Brollo > *Till:* "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < > wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > *Skickat:* torsdag, 23 m

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

On 05/24/2013 09:11 AM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > I remember, for example, an awesome tool from Alex Brollo, postOCR, a js script which corrects automatically most common OCR errors and > converts apostrophes. Where is this? Is it documented in English? Andrea mentioned two different tools

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

> > > > As Alex says, no. And it's a pity. > I really think it is paramount to have a central place (on Wikisurce.org?) > to discuss tools, templates, and procedures, as an international > community. > It is a project long needed. > Where should we start it? > > Aubrey > > Personally. I'll try to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Refactoring of Proofread Page Extension

I share Aubrey's excitation. Please consider, if you can, some draft - but expandible and highy customable - spelling checker. :-) Normal spelling checkers help, but ancient texts need something different, since we search for fidelity to originals. Alex 2013/5/30 Andrea Zanni > Hi Aarti, >

[Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

ner's Lua exercise" someway interesting/inspiring in your opinion? Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Centralized Lua modules for Wikisource (OPW mentor needed)

I agree fully Micru. Obviously, my dream is something much simpler and clear-cut: a unique wikisource for all languages, since an unique project for any textual media is needed IMHO just as a common project for any non-textual media is running: Commons; and a common project for data now exists: Wik

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

; > The Lua data page is written in a eyeblink by a js script, which reads and > parses html of Index: page, produced by pagelist tag; so it's very > comfortable to fill such data page and to update it, if pagelist parameters > are updated. > > Is this "beginner's Lu

Re: [Wikisource-l] Reunification of Wikisources

s and the table of contents of a Latin book and its >> >> Dutch translation a century later. At the time I was toying with the >> >> idea of cross referencing the stories but realized quickly there was >> >> no way to do this on Wikisource. I put my scans here: >> >

Re: [Wikisource-l] Reunification of Wikisources

Just to have a try: imagine to install proofread extension and to add Index: and Page: namespaces into Commons, and to allow users to use Commons as an optional proofreading lab. No more painful alignement of Authors' metadata: there is Creator nmespace/template. No more painful setting & aligning

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

but they show that it can be done. Alex 2013/6/1 Alex Brollo > Thank you Thomas. There are two reasons to load "structural metadata" into > a Lua data page, to be imported with mw.loadData(): > 1. often the tl|Pg - which reads data page by mw.loadData() and converts a > book

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

Thanks Lars: OK. :-) 2013/6/3 Lars Aronsson > On 06/03/2013 12:10 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: > >> Take a look to this page <http://it.wikisource.org/** >> wiki/Pagina:Manuale_di_**economia_politica_con_una_** >> introduzione_alla_scienza_**sociale.djvu/583<

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Done Lars; I edited Modulo:Pg to keep Template:Pg simpler. Alex 2013/6/3 Alex Brollo > Thanks Lars: OK. :-) > > > 2013/6/3 Lars Aronsson > >> On 06/03/2013 12:10 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: >> >>> Take a look to this page <http://it.wikiso

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Centralized Lua modules for Wikisource (OPW mentor needed)

Really, stating some conventions, we could share Lua modules tomorrow (better: in a few days). Needed conventions are IMHO: 1. to upload shared Lua modules (and related templates) into oldwikisource; 2. to edit them only there; 3. to identify shared modules with a brief, meaningful prefix (somethi

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Centralized Lua modules for Wikisource (OPW mentor needed)

I'd like to post something into oldwikisource, some javascript and some Lua module, to test tham & possibly to discuss them while waiting for a test centralization project; I posted a request for comments into oldwikisource Scriptorium. I hope, I've not been precipitous. 2013/6

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_1022_al_1540/Indice Alex 2013/6/3 Alex Brollo > Done Lars; I edited Modulo:Pg to keep Template:Pg simpler. > > Alex > > > > > 2013/6/3 Alex Brollo > >> Thanks Lars: OK. :-) >> >> >> 2013/6/3 Lars Aronsson >> >>&

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

ntegral automation of ns0 transclusion. But I absolutely need Aubrey's suggestions. :-) Alex 2013/6/5 Alex Brollo > I'm testing tl|Pg into a "hard case", transcluded page will contain more > than 8000 Pg template and Pg module calls; no expensive parser function

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

@Micru: I like semi-automated, user-driven procedures much more than bot-automated procedures. I.e.: our it.source Index pages use a tl|Sommario for any ns0 section, with following parameters: nome= full name of ns0 page titolo= title for ns0 page (to be displayed only) from= number of djvu page wh

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

Thanks for suggestions I can only promise, I'll think about them. The question by Micru is particularly hard. :-( @ Jane: I've to read your mail again and again; nevertheless a well compiled pagelist tag can really identify into a unique way any page of the book, even if they have no page numb

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

sourcian could mount them into a multipage djvu file and to open an Index: page to proofread it into a wikisource project. 2013/6/7 Alex Brollo > Thanks for suggestions I can only promise, I'll think about them. The > question by Micru is particularly hard. :-( > > @ Jane: I

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

Strategy 3 is extremely interesting, from the "if you are repeating yourself, you are going wrong" point of view. Nevertheless such an approach needs a well-designed and complete "chapters tree" as step one; the best would be that titles of sections/subsections could be wrote one only to avoid any

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) and manually (by javascript, or by a interactive bot). Alex 2013/6/7 Alex Brollo > Strategy 3 is extremely interesting, from the "if you are repeating > yourself, you are going wrong" point of view. Nevertheless such an approach > needs a well-designed and complete &quo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

I'm going ahead with Modulo:Pg and Modulo:Dati/... idea. A test p.indice function into :it:s:Modulo:Dati now builds a nice list of links to subpages into any supported ns0 page - simply browsing one of Modulo/Dati: tables and selecting cap objects which are subpages of the calling page and add

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

ikidata content; it would be a good idea IMHO to access to Wikidata data in plain form, just as such data would be Lua tables/variables. --Alex brollo (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC) If such a Lua library could be built, to import data from wikidata would be as simple, as writing a template, and d

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es, if the Wikidata client is > installed in Wikisource, the inclusion syntax already takes care of > displaying data... > > Micru > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > >> I don't see the need to change deeply Index/ns0 relationship, while I >

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

> show "Template:Book" with linked data from Wikidata, no matter if they have > supporting scans or not. > > Micru > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > >> Simply there is no need to store data twice or more, if they are >> din

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