Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs and OOjs UI for on-wiki gadgets

Just FYI, the new version of MediaWiki has been finally deployed to the Wikipedias along with the new OO.ui.LookupElement class, after a two-week delay due to WMF All Hands and MediaWiki Dev Summit (announcement

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vendro api in MediaWiki

I think you mean https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89385, don't you? Il 12/02/2015 20:50, Thomas Mulhall ha scritto: Hi does vendor have an api like the extension api which tells you name of the extension and version. Because I have ask for WikiApriary to support vendor in there tracking

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

What would be the letter for it then? s? t? a? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I think bot edits are most closely aligned with fully automated editing. Perhaps semi-automated edit would work. Pine On Feb 12, 2015 10:34 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org

[Wikitech-l] [x-post] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on 18 February 2015 (Wednesday) at 1300 UTC

[X-posted announcement] Hello, The next monthly IRC office hour of the WMF Language Engineering team will be on February 18, 2015 (Wednesday) at 1300 UTC on #wikimedia-office. Please note that for this instance the session has been set to a much earlier hour. We will be taking questions and

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

I'd suggest, James, that relying on suggestions from a six-year-old strategy document when we're about to start a new strategic session, isn't the best course of action. I'd also query what exactly is the plan for doing something with this information. Collecting lists of things that might no

[Wikitech-l] New recent changes library for .Net

Hi Some of you who use JS and Python were probably excited about deployment of new RCStream (1) and some of you who use .Net were probably disapointed how complex it is to get it, JSON and websockets.IO running on .Net in order to get it working. Here I made a super simple C# library that

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

Risker wrote: ... relying on suggestions from a six-year-old strategy document when we're about to start a new strategic session, isn't the best course of action. A strategy proposal which never garnered criticism after so many opportunities would seem to qualify as at least an emergent

Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

I like that volunteer flag, please keep it. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than expected. I am sorry for that -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 18:48 +0100, Petr Bena wrote: I like that volunteer flag, please keep it. Let me repeat what I wrote below: If you feel like helping make a decision by adding some *additional* arguments based on your experience, please raise your voice in T78617 after reading the existing

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

I would go with S or T depending on what you choose to call these edits. I lean towards S. This can be changed later of there is an upswell of bikeshedding, but I hope that people will be grateful either way. (: Pine On Feb 13, 2015 3:22 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What would be

[Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than expected. I am sorry for that - wasn't intended. To fix that, there are two questions that welcome input in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617 : 1)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 9:43:00 AM Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than expected. I am sorry for that - wasn't intended. To fix that, there are

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

James, it received a single support vote. It was not included in any final strategy documents. I think it could more accurately be described as something not worthy of the attention of the Wikimedia community. While I have no doubt that the WMF and the Wikimedia community care about the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Building an extension management CLI tool (What language should I write it in?)

I say working in node is sure better than not working at all. :D Keep it up! -- brion On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: ((Jump to the -- TL;DR -- if you just want to answer my question)) Hey guys, right now managing extensions is a complete

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

Hi, On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: In addition to (even better than?) a breaking-changes list would be for every piece of software we distribute to have a very prominent ChangeLog (or RELEASE-NOTES) file, which is kept up to date. When you git

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On 02/13/2015 02:14 PM, Max Semenik wrote: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366 -- Legoktm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On 13 February 2015 at 17:25, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13 days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On 2015-02-13 2:19 PM, Chad wrote: On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366 Note that my proposal is explicitly different from Jon's plans about that bug: he wants to continue overriding special pages, etc. while I want to leave everything like this

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs and OOjs UI for on-wiki gadgets

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: the overflow of the lookup menu is now clipped by the dialog :-/ Could you please add a bug to phabricator with reproduction steps? Thanks, Trevor ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

Risker wrote: ... it received a single support vote There are two supporters including myself who indicated they are willing to work on it, and it also recieved support at https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Favorites/Lodewijk Many of the implemented proposals received less formal process

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On 13 February 2015 at 17:19, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13 days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first thing that someone sees? See the part about improvements. -- Best regards,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can all be changed incrementally, and we can do this without continued or additional

[Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend * Leave all mobile-specific improvements, improvements and hacks in MF * Polish Minerva to do everythig a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend * Leave all mobile-specific

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs and OOjs UI for on-wiki gadgets

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89494 Il 13/02/2015 20:05, Trevor Parscal ha scritto: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: the overflow of the lookup menu is now clipped by the dialog :-/ Could you please add a bug to phabricator with

[Wikitech-l] Flame graphs in Chrome / Chromium

Hello, The timeline and flame graph features of Chrome's DevTools have been very useful for us as we work to understand and improve the performance of VisualEditor. Someone asked me today about how we use these tools, so I recorded a short (3-minute) screencast. It unfortunately cut off near the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Flame graphs in Chrome / Chromium

PS: added these links to our growing collection of JS optimization tips at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Learning_JavaScript#Profiling. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks, Ori! Another great tool that we have been using heavily for JS profiling

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

Furthermore, the initial limited subtask would be much more difficult to evaluate as a strategy without a working prototype, including by the Bot Approvals Group which demands working code before making a final decision on implementation. Trying to second guess the BAG is presumptuous. es

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Feb 13, 2015 6:15 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend * Leave all mobile-specific

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13 days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first thing that someone sees? This is rather off-topic, but to answer the question

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Flame graphs in Chrome / Chromium

Thanks, Ori! Another great tool that we have been using heavily for JS profiling is https://github.com/jlfwong/chrome2calltree. It allows you to use the excellent KCachegrind profile viewer, which has call graphs, relative call frequency, grouping by file other useful features. It works with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Can I just say that I hate it? It does not even give access to the talk page! Looks like here is the best place to discuss design decisions: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Beta_Features/Minerva -- John

[Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

Google is showing their This site may be hacked. note when showing the enwp article about Anonymous, with a link to https://support.google.com/websearch?p=ws_hacked https://www.google.com/search?q=Anonymous+group Found via http://thestack.com/anonymous-this-site-may-be-hacked-wikipedia-120215

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

Trevor Parscal wrote: We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can all be changed incrementally, and we can do this without

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

Pine W wrote: There is the https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce email list which perhaps could be used for emailing the weekly tech newsletters and major changes. There's also the mediawiki-announce list. While new mailing lists are cheap enough to create, I don't think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

When I logged into the webmaster tools and followed their instructions to resolve the issue it said that en.wikipedia.org had no security issues. I guess whatever happened has been fixed and we just need to wait for it to resolve. Dan On 13 February 2015 at 20:57, John Mark Vandenberg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: When I logged into the webmaster tools and followed their instructions to resolve the issue it said that en.wikipedia.org had no security issues. I guess whatever happened has been fixed and we just need to wait for it to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

We've had this happen at least one other time (for a different article) and both then and now I've never found any cause. I think it' s likely on Google's side. For both occasions I've done deep dives on the page to see if anything out of the ordinary existed that could cause it as well as through

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

Thanks James. Do you recall what the previous articles were? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] VisualEditor weekly triage meetings – 2015-02-11 – minutes

As promised in the meeting, here is are the minutes for the VisualEditor weekly triage meeting on 2015-02-11. *Item 1 – Release criteria* The release criteria at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/%C2%A7_visualeditor_q3_blockers/ were considered. After a brief discussion, no changes were

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

Can I just say that I hate it? It does not even give access to the talk page! Il 13/02/2015 23:14, Max Semenik ha scritto: Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just do it: * Move Minerva out

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75305 for a previous instance. The VPT thread linked there (now archived at [1]) has some other relevant discussions, including an IRC log. TTO -- [1]