Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

2015-03-19 Thread Erik Moeller
Fantastic work! :) VisualEditor is becoming really zippy -- which had been one of the top concerns in user feedback in the past. Congratulations to everyone involved. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Kevin Wayne Williams kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com wrote: There doesn't seem to be any particular user demand to adopt Flow, so there's no reason to believe it will gain any more traction than LQT ever did. There was significant community interest and momentum

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Wikimedia REST content API is now available in beta

2015-03-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:29 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: Congratulations, Services team, and all those who've helped you get to this point. This is a huge milestone and I'm so happy we've reached it. It'll be hugely valuable for Mobile Web, Mobile Apps, VisualEditor

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks for all _your_ work seeing this through the finish line as well, Kunal. This is a great first step towards better user profile support, and brings all Wikimedia wikis closer together. -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation

[Wikitech-l] Use of hreflang in the head

2015-02-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, MediaWiki emits the hreflang attribute on language links, but only as part of the links in the body, and not in the head as recommended by Google [1]. The result of this is that Google (and possibly other search engines) doesn't interpret the hreflang attribute for purposes of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator search

2015-02-05 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:50 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Perhaps if Titan/Wikidata Query Service development is on hold, Nik could investigate this? Not really on hold - just looking at alternatives to Titan. But this is a pretty critical issue for all our dev workflows, so really

Re: [Wikitech-l] Investigating building an apps content service using RESTBase and Node.js

2015-02-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Regarding general-purpose APIs vs. mobile: I think mobile is in some ways a special case as their content transformation needs are closely coupled with the way the apps are presenting the content. Additionally, at least

Re: [Wikitech-l] Investigating building an apps content service using RESTBase and Node.js

2015-02-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: To address these challenges, we are considering performing some or all of these tasks in a service developed by the Mobile Apps Team with help from Services. This service will hit the APIs we currently hit on the client,

[Wikitech-l] DevSummit appreciation

2015-01-27 Thread Erik Moeller
Just a quick note that I really appreciated everyone's help making the summit come together. As always, we'll be doing lots of second-guessing of everything we did and didn't do, and how we want to use future time together. Before we go into that, I'd like to thank the event team and _everyone_

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brion's role change within WMF

2015-01-20 Thread Erik Moeller
Hooray! :-) You'll do great things, as always. Look forward to your focused leadership in this area. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: What you're forgetting is that WMF abandoned MediaWiki as an Open Source project quite a while ago (at least 2 years ago). {{citation needed}}

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: No more Architecture Committee?

2015-01-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sorry to labour the point, but the way to go about this at present is pretty straightforward, and it doesn't involve the architecture committee. You just convince the management (Damon, Erik, etc.) that it is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: No more Architecture Committee?

2015-01-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the leadership front, let me throw out a hypothetical: should we have MediaWiki 2.0, where we start with an empty repository and build up? If so, who makes that decision? If not, what is our alternative vision? Who

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Ops] All non-api traffic is now served by HHVM

2014-12-03 Thread Erik Moeller
This is fantastic -- kudos to everyone for pushing to get this through the finish line. Making editing faster (and improving general site responsiveness) is one of the most obvious things we can do that serves every single contributor to our projects. We've still got lots more that we can do in

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator outage due to network issues, 11/29

2014-11-30 Thread Erik Moeller
As noted in the server admin log [1], Phabricator is currently down due to a network outage impacting one of our racks in the Ashburn data-center. We're investigating and will aim to restore service ASAP. Erik [1] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log -- Erik Möller VP of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: What are the indexing requirements for this metadata? If fast access by specific properties is needed Most typically, I'm guessing you'd do stuff on a per-revision basis to show quality indicators and such on page

[Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, there are many projects which have an interest in generating and querying metadata for specific revisions: - community efforts to annotate quality of specific articles - researchers analyzing revision contents (e.g. to derive quality heuristics, perform citation analysis, etc.) -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for project status updates

2014-10-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: It's been awhile since I've noticed a status update from the Growth that team through the EE list or this list. The Meta page implies that the Growth team disbanded on October 3. Is that true, and if so, does WMF still have a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: There must be a way that we can allow users to work from Tor. RESOLVED FIXED http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NOP Not quite; if your _only_ means of access is Tor and you have no prior editing history to point to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Invitation to beta-test HHVM

2014-09-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Ori and ... Aaron Schulz, Alexandros Kosiaris, Brad Jorsch, Brandon Black, Brett Simmers, Bryan Davis, Chad Horohoe, Chris Steipp, Erik Bernhardson, Faidon Liambotis, Filippo Giunchedi, Giuseppe Lavagetto, Greg Grossmeier, Jack McBarn, Katie Filbert, Kunal Mehta, Mark Bergsma, Max Semenik,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-09-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The IE6 disable patch is in prod now. I've tested on a few wikis and have not noticed any issues - if anything, IE6 actually feels usable now when before it kept throwing errors or was just slowing to a crawl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-08-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: == Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.x == Last release in series: April 2009 - Browsing: Most pages work fine (some styling issues), but pages with audio files cause JavaScript errors (problem in TMH). - Editing: Throws JS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used for many clearly beneficial purposes. In the long run, we will want to apply a code

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM

2014-08-08 Thread Erik Moeller
This is fantastic progress, and really promising data. Huge kudos, guys :) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is sensible. Let's certainly not call it the MediaWiki API given how many are planned. Core seems a reasonable qualifier, though, no? Seems like the content API and a lot of other proposed interfaces are by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

2014-08-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: I would like to make a case for moving more browsers into the grade C category. Yes please. As a project that must live the test of time I think we should be focusing our energy on building for future browsers.

[Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-08-06 Thread Erik Moeller
Following up on disabling JavaScript support for IE6 [1], here is some additional research on other browsers. I'd appreciate if people with experience testing/developing for/with these browsers would jump in with additional observations. I think we should wait with adding other browsers to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

2014-07-30 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Since Grade B never ended up being recognised in any way by the software, I've kept that out. And the previously undocumented Grade C represents browsers we are interested in supporting due to their traffic but only via the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deprecating print-on-demand functionality

2014-07-11 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com wrote: so the Book Creator will still be active, maybe under another name, maybe with another engine, but still active? Same name and functionality, just the Order a printed book feature will disappear. Erik -- Erik

[Wikitech-l] Deprecating print-on-demand functionality

2014-07-10 Thread Erik Moeller
Since 2008, we've offered a small feature to download printed books from Wikipedia article. This is done in partnership with a company called PediaPress. They've sold about 15K books over that time period, not enough to break even, and the support/maintenance burden for the service is no longer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mantle - coding sharing between Flow and MobileFrontend

2014-07-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: == The future == Mantle is only a short term measure. The hope is that all the code that goes here will eventually go into core. We hold the code here to exactly the same high standards that we hold core to, we are just

Re: [Wikitech-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-26 Thread Erik Moeller
As an update on the goals process for WMF engineering, we've begun fleshing out out the top priorities for the first quarter. Going forward, we'll aim to call out the top priorities for each quarter as we approach it, to create more shared visibility into the most urgent and high-impact projects

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
As a reminder, this is in 65 minutes. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
Raw logs here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.2014-06-25-17.30.log.html Next steps: 1) Trevor, Roan, Timo, Kaldari and others will refine the proposal at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Redo_skin_framework as a concrete step to

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-19 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, We're hosting a conversation about standardization and continued development of front-end libraries in MW core on 6/25, 5:30 PM UTC, #wikimedia-office. This is driven by a recognized need for teams at WMF to work more effectively on user-facing features and reduce duplication of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Elliot Eggleston joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-06-13 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Voodoo? Secret account in the Caymans set up by Fundraising Tech? Wikishares? If you want in on the Wikishares, it would be a nice test case for Matt Walker's new PDF generator. :) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, for me as a power user who watches many discussions simultaneously on multiple wikis, a unified watchlist and more refined tools for watchlist management are among the features at the top of my development wish list.

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Watchlist and (fine-granular definable) E-Mail-Notifications are very important - for my daily work. LiquidThreads and Echo (if you opt-in to mail) offer that (using the MediaWiki UserMailer functions). Does Flow also

[Wikitech-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, We've got the first DRAFT (sorry for shouting, but can't hurt to emphasize :)) of the annual goals for the engineering/product department up on mediawiki.org. We're now mid-point in the process, and will finalize through June.

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-09 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This. Nobody, but nobody, asked the WMF to create this sort of system, and it is a rather quixotic goal given that each project has its own set of workflows. Hey Anne, We're of course pretty familiar with many of the highly

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-07 Thread Erik Moeller
Dear Anne, Thank you for the thoughtful critique. There were four problems with talk/discussion pages that users across multiple communities over multiple years have identified: - Automatic signatures for posts/edits - More efficient method for indenting that is not dependent on

Re: [Wikitech-l] 404 errors

2014-05-29 Thread Erik Moeller
It's being investigated, see #wikimedia-operations on irc.freenode.net. Erik On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm getting some 404 errors consistently when trying to load some English Wikipedia articles. Other pages load ok. Did something break?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output from Zurich Hackathon - yet another maps extension!

2014-05-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Visual: ? The mild conflict VisualEditor: conflict aside, that seems reasonable. View: might also work if it's not used for something else. Either way, it's going to be a bit tricky to translate. It might be good to design

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Unit testing for MediaWiki projects

2014-04-28 Thread Erik Moeller
As a reminder, this is happening tomorrow at 12 PM PDT / 19:00 UTC tomorrow (Tuesday): https://plus.google.com/events/cae6ng1m9o4mhdbpo10u5v05bvg We're going to talk about various strategies for automated testing and improvements to our continuous integration infrastructure. Antoine 'hashar'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Another Wikipedia design concept

2014-04-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: In the comment thread at the bottom someone gave him a heads up about the fonts controversy, hopefully he doesn't get totally discouraged from MediaWiki design studies after reading it ;) I actually think it's interesting that he

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed body font stack for Latin

2014-04-11 Thread Erik Moeller
3 Thank you Erwin for always moving things forward. Much appreciated. :) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: So for me, the question is not how can we apply pretty serif fonts to headers, the question is what can we do short term and long term to make that happen. It would be good if we could focus the conversation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-08 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: So, the font stack changes with regards to the status quo now change nothing for Windows users, changes Helvetica - Helvetica neue for Mac users and changes Arial, DejaVu Sans or Arimo for possibly something

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-08 Thread Erik Moeller
Just a note that Brandon just commented on the patchset: We discussed this patch today during our weekly design team meeting and how to move forward. At this point in time we are leaning towards +2'ing this but we want to have a bit of discussion internally before doing so. We'll have something

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

2014-04-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: This is epic. Thanks a bunch Siebrand! Agreed - really exciting to see this come to fruition! :) Kudos to Siebrand everyone involved. I'm sure there will be bumps along the road but it's clearly a bit architectural step

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Language Engineering team changes

2014-02-21 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM Subject: Language Engineering team changes To: All Wikimedia Foundation Staff Hi folks. After some internal conversations, we've implemented the following changes

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Update on WMF Director of TechOps

2014-02-21 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM Subject: Update on WMF Director of TechOps To: All Wikimedia Foundation Staff Hi folks, in consultation with Faidon and Mark, we've decided not to immediately post

Re: [Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

2014-02-20 Thread Erik Moeller
We've been in discussions with Top Level Design, both to look into potentially appropriate uses (e.g. URL shorteners) and to prevent squatting of WMF trademarks. James points out that now there's .foundation there's some additional potential for mischief :P. Damn TLDs sprouting like mushrooms ..

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: tl;dr: His stack still lists HelveticaNeue as the first font, but proposes Arimo as a web font which may well look better on MS Windows. Arimo ships with ChromeOS. So, what would be the downside of listing a font like

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: We basically tried the equivalent of this (placing relatively free fonts unknown on most platforms first) which Kaldari talked about previously. Ultimately that kind of declaration is useless for the vast majority of

Re: [Wikitech-l] MeetBot now at your disposal in #wikimedia-office

2014-02-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Tim, this is great - thanks so much for getting it spun up, should be very helpful for office hours and such. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2014-01-28 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, I'm sorry to update you that Ken will be leaving WMF. He's agreed to provide transitional support through February and March, and Mark Bergsma will be Acting Director of TechOps starting today, sharing some of the work with Faidon. Thanks to both of them for stepping up. We'll be

[Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: To satisfy Applebaum's request, there needs to be a mechanism whereby someone can edit even if *all of their communications with Wikipedia, including the initial contact* are coming over Tor or equivalent. Blinded,

[Wikitech-l] Tampa datacenter issues

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, We had a fibre cut of our connection to our Tampa DC this morning. ETA of a fix is still pending, but the cuts have been located and crews are being dispatched. Meanwhile public traffic is being rerouted via the public Internet, so most services should be reachable. Tampa is our secondary

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: The problem isn't straight up vandalism (IPBE is no help there -- the account'd get swiftly blocked) but socking. POV warriors know how to misuse proxies and anonymity to multiply their consensus, and having IPBE and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: End of the day, though, absent blocking problematic IP addresses and ranges (which really can't be done unless the person blocking actually knows the IP address or range), the socks and spammers just keep coming. This problem

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Ops] Status update on new Collections PDF Renderer

2013-11-26 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks, Matt, for the detailed update, as well as for your leadership throughout the project, and thanks to everyone who's helped with the effort so far. :-) As Matt outlined, we're going to keep moving on critical path issues til January and will do a second sprint then to get things ready for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

2013-11-14 Thread Erik Moeller
We were dealing with cascading site issues due to excessive database queries, and are still investigating the root cause, but site should be recovered by now. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___

[Wikitech-l] Re-implementing PDF support

2013-11-12 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, for a long time we've relied on the mwlib libraries by PediaPress to generate PDFs on Wikimedia sites. These have served us well (we generate 200K PDFs/day), but they architecturally pre-date a lot of important developments in MediaWiki, and actually re-implement the MediaWiki parser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-08 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: I think that picking the title Senior Software Engineer II may be underselling the value of this highest tier to the outside world. In my recent job search I saw a bit of the tech ladder side of the org chart for several

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: Faidon, great questions. The architect title, besides the job description that you described, is also a seniority level within the WMF's engineering department. Other organizations do e.g. sr./staff/sr. staff

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: * It makes sense to have a handful of folks as a core review planning group. * However, I would consider avoiding using the term Architect for its members as it's easily conflated with existing WMF job titles. I think

[Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
tl;dr: I’d appreciate thoughts from the Wikimedia technical community at large whether the designation of individual technical contributors as architects should be meaningful, and if so, how to expand it beyond the original triumvirate (Brion, Tim Mark), e.g. by transitioning to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I think I can respond to pretty much the whole idea here. I think titles are pretty much a WMF-thing and shouldn't have any bearing on MediaWiki :\ Just to be clear on how they currently do, in the relatively recently

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Erik Moeller
This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur. Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with recommendations on how to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Where I come from, beta does mean this is the direction we're intending to go in, subject to testing and feedback before it's made an official release. That's right. There are two questions here: - Do these

[Wikitech-l] Optimizing the deployment train schedule

2013-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, after speaking to a few folks, I'd like to check in on the WMF deployment train schedule overall, and see if there are ways to optimize it. (Note: In the below I refer to test wikis vs. production wikis, generously including mediawiki.org as a test wiki. I realize that our test wikis,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Welcome Gergő Tisza!

2013-10-15 Thread Erik Moeller
Welcome on board, Gergő -- really looking forward to making images, video and other media in our projects .. sparkle. ;-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] [EE] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Can someone summarize this thread? As far as I can tell someone has invented a requirement that all features be blessed by the WMF Features team, and I'm pretty sure that can't be right. Can it? Of course not. I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: We still eventually want to reach the point where the criteria is not the amalgam of rules above but a simpler one based on intent, expertise-sharing and consensus-building: If any engineering department or community

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Roadmap updates - Sept 6th, 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Weekly deployment plans/notes This monthly roadmap spreadsheet/wiki page Quarterly plans, as represented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2013-14_Goals and other places Yearly/annual plans

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS enabled for all logged-in users

2013-08-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: After many months of struggle, WMF takes one big step towards a more secure Wikipedia. Good job everybody! Agreed - fantastic to see this out the door :-). Thanks to everyone who made it happen. Erik -- Erik Möller VP

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

2013-08-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, George William Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: The change must be delayed until people geographically / nationally denied HTTPS can log in again. Tim's working on a patch that should make this possible: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80166/ The

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

2013-08-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: The mandatory use of HTTPS outside of a limited number of countries where we know the editors will be blocked is not what I am talking about. No, but the point is that there's no apolitical choice here. Actively suppressing a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-26 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Newcomers with the VisualEditor were ~43% less likely to save a single edit than editors with the wikitext editor (x^2=279.4, p0.001), meaning that Visual Editor presented nearly a 2:1 increase in editing difficulty.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:35 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: It would imply that Wikimedia thinks preference bloat is an appropriate way forward for expenditure of donor funds. This would be a lie. Each added preference adds to the complexity of our software - so increasing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I tried editing [[Argentina]] on my laptop just now, it took 45 seconds of CPU time and 51 seconds of wall clock time before the percentage CPU usage began to drop. It's pretty slow. Yes, that's why I said

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, though, I understand why the VE team might want to force everybody to use VE That's a misrepresentation of the facts. We're not talking about forcing people to use VE. We're talking about whether there should be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: and the results from Aaron Halfaker's study [2] As noted at the top of the page, the analysis is still in progress. Importantly, there were many confounding variables in the test, some of which are already documented.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: C. Scott Ananian joins Wikimedia as Senior Features Engineer

2013-07-12 Thread Erik Moeller
Scott - I'm really glad that you've joined WMF engineering! The work on Parsoid is groundbreaking. It will open the door to collaboration at a scale not seen before. And it will require contributors of your level of experience to pull it off. Thanks for coming on board -- I look forward to

[Wikitech-l] Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2013-06-06 Thread Erik Moeller
Hello all, I’m delighted to announce that Ken Snider is joining the Wikimedia operations team. He will start as an international contractor working remotely from Toronto, Canada on June 10, and will be visiting SF in the week of June 17. We’re currently in the process of seeking work

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Engineering/Product Goals for 2013-14

2013-06-03 Thread Erik Moeller
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM Subject: Engineering/Product Goals for 2013-14 To: WMF Engineering/Product Dear all, as those of you who’ve worked on individual goals have seen, we’re only looking for focus areas

Re: [Wikitech-l] showing videos and images in modal viewers within articles

2013-05-29 Thread Erik Moeller
Yes, better support for display of images through a modal viewer would be great. I'm not sure a modal parameter that has to be explicitly set for files is the best approach - I would recommend optimizing the default experience when a user clicks an image or video. It's not clear that the current

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM Subject: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to announce that today, Jared

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The reason I ask about a distinction is that there have been a lot of changes to Wikimedia wikis lately and likely more to come, as the Wikimedia Foundation has gotten larger and has more dedicated tech resources. Overall,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, We already have the page lang support. What do you mean by that? AFAICT there's no existing designated place in the schema for associating a content language with a specific page. Thanks, Erik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:00 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm not sure I'd call what you're proposing a major architectural undertaking, though perhaps I'm defining a much narrower problem scope. Yeah. A lot depends on whether or not we want language to be a first class citizen at

[Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-23 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, I'd like to start a broader conversation about language support in MW core, and the potential need to re-think some pretty fundamental design decisions in MediaWiki if we want to move past the point of diminishing returns in some language-related improvements. In a nutshell, is it time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: The best way to approach a project like this is not to propose an up-front migration of an entire wiki to a new piece of software, just to prototype a few new features. I think the potential migration of content to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join Mobile department partner team

2013-03-18 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pleased to announce that the mobile department has two new staff members. Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join as sr. software developers on the mobile partner team. Welcome on board, guys. Really looking forward to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: I wouldn't be that optimistic, maybe it would slightly increase. Having an account is one of the factors but I wouldn't underestimate user friendliness. The first time I tried to find the URL to clone a repo in

Re: [Wikitech-l] QUnit testing in Jenkins

2013-03-05 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Today I sprinted to pick up QUnit testing in Jenkins and get it stabilised and deployed. This is fantastic. Thanks, Timo. Indeed - this is a great milestone. Thanks for all your work getting this out the door, Timo! :-)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I prefer it in the first line. Second to a good one line summary of what was done, the bug number is the next most important thing. It allows one to see the context the commit was made in. Having it in the first

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I actually prefer bug numbers in the header. +1, also useful for release notes. Could the footer line be auto-generated for indexing purposes? Yay for bikeshed topics ;-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Munagala Ramanath (Ram)

2013-01-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: started yesterday as a Senior Software Engineer in our Platform Engineering group (MediaWiki Core, specifically). Welcome on-board, Ram :-). Look forward to your efforts on search, which is in desperate need of love and

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