Please consider my request for Paladox to be given +2 rights in
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<https://wiki.php.net/todo/php82>. There is a migration guide
<https://www.php.net/manual/en/migration82.php>.
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Deployment plan:
Stage 1: test.wikipedia.org and test2.wikipedia.org. Already
done.
Stage 2: mediawiki.org. Planned for deployment on August 15.
Stage 3: traffic percentage. A small
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it now and it would more or less work. If you think otherwise, please
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n't think it is likely
to happen.
> * I would expect this to be the standard behavior on "final" classes.
> Unfortunately the RFC doesn't mention the word "final" anywhere. What
> do you think?
I don't recall this being discussed.
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of migration work I
think it will create for us.
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times dropped by. Html::openElement() is a smaller piece of a smaller
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The minutes from TechCom's triage meeting on 2020-09-23.
Present: Tim S, Dan A, Daniel K, Niklas L, Timo T.
RFC: Parsoid Extension API
*
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260714
*
TS: on the basis of Subbu’s comment listing the different
consultations, should go to
/alternative as long as it's not base-64
encoded. You should send the plain text as the first part so he
doesn't have to page down too far ;)
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On 23/9/20 2:31 pm, Tito Dutta wrote:
> Yes, that would be helpful.
>
> বুধ, ২৩ সেপ্টেম্বর, ২০২০ ৯:০৫ AM তারিখে MusikAnimal
> mai
Resending in HTML format. Hopefully I've got the settings right now.
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made a configuration change which should be sufficient to prevent it
from happening again.
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analysis type checks. Sometimes the documentation was at fault,
sometimes the call sites were at fault. Now that the migration patch
has been merged, Phan will enforce the correct types going forward.
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, it's possible to have it call
functions like addQuotes() while building the underlying condition array.
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On 22/5/20 2:14 pm, Brian Wolff wrote:
> That's really cool.
>
> It would be interesting if we could use this as an excuse to move away from
> what i would consider
o Database::select()
are stored in an associative array. It can convert to and from such
arrays. As a pilot of this functionality, I converted ApiQueryBase to
use a SelectQueryBuilder to store accumulated query info.
Check it out!
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Several of the changes are almost ready to merge. We're not merging
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On 17/3/19 12:48 am, Merlijn van Deen (valhallasw) wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 03:01, Tim Starling wrote:
>
>> No, managing +2 permissions is not up to the maintainer of the tool,
>> that's the whole point of the change.
>>
>
> I feel that this policy, alt
On 14/3/19 1:00 pm, Gergo Tisza wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:33 PM Tim Starling
> wrote:
>
>> File a task in Phabricator under the Gerrit-Privilege-Requests
>> project, recommending that the person be given access, giving your
>> reasons and mentioning
On 16/3/19 7:53 am, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 15:24 +1100, Tim Starling wrote:
>> * The Phabricator projects for requesting access have changed. I'm in
>> the process of moving the tickets over.
>
> What is supposed to happen with
> https://phabr
and close the task.
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On 13/3/19 11:18 pm, Zppix wrote:
> Hello,
> So what is the process for adding people to +2 on gerrit repos im the primary
> maintainer of (for example my ZppixBot toolforge gerrit repo)
>
> --
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access have changed. I'm in
the process of moving the tickets over.
* The revocation policy has been expanded, better describing the
present situation and making several minor changes.
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for most requests longer than
this, it would not have been obvious that HHVM continued to run, an
error was delivered anyway.
The logs so far show a trickle of timeouts from the parser, which is
normal by historical standards.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97192
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On 27/07/18 14:55, Tim Starling wrote:
> In the TechCom committee meeting yesterday, it was decided that next
> week's RFC meeting will discuss T198256 "Modern Event Platform -
> Choose Schema Tech"
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198256
>
> This rel
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MediaWiki. We're all aware that it's not ideal, and while you're
ranting about civility, smart people are trying to find better
compromises.
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On 19/09/17 10:13, Tim Starling wrote:
> I'll run a benchmark
I upgraded the test wiki container on my laptop from Ubuntu 14.04 to
16.04, which also necessitated a platform switch from schroot to
systemd-nspawn. The benchmark is thus approximately native performance
on a Core i5 4210U @ 1.7
On 20/09/17 12:19, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2017 9:45 PM, "Tim Starling" <tstarl...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Facebook have been inconsistent with
> HHVM, and have made it clear that they don't intend to cater to our needs.
>
>
> I'm curious: is
t
has inertia, change is slow. Facebook have been inconsistent with
HHVM, and have made it clear that they don't intend to cater to our needs.
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> Hi,
>
> On 09/18/2017 05:13 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
>> * The plan to also drop PHP 5 compatibility, on a short timeline (1 year).
>> * Rather than "drifting away" from PHP, their top priority plans
>> include removing c
) is the only viable option in the long run. What
> do you think?
Yes, I think it's the only viable option.
I'll run a benchmark, but I don't see how it could influence the
decision. It'll be more for capacity planning.
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to resolve differences between the PostgreSQL and
MySQL support in MediaWiki by reducing the use of PostgreSQL-specific
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Note that I'm not planning implement this RFC in the current quarter.
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I think it is possible to then do an ALTER TABLE to switch from binary
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not sure if the Gerrit folks are serious or are trolling us. Perhaps
it is a tactic to encourage UI code contributions?
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$this->getMonthAbbreviation( substr( $ts, 4, 2 ) ) . " " .
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So for the elevation of UTC as a standard in the UI, I think we can
safely credit Lee Daniel Crocker.
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> In 2001 when Magnus was writing the
colorizr.io/image.php?uuid=44d1c028-074d-4162-be65-4200569b89d2
Is it good enough for Wikipedia? Even the best examples have subtle
defects.
> Should we have a bot that can perform colorization on demand,
> the way Rotatebot <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rotatebot> can
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> executive sponsors). However, I think it's safe to say that we'd like to
> continue to reduce our environmental impact, and look forward to the
> findings of this effort.
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amount of time it would take to implement such a feature. We currently
don't have a way to efficiently find all interwiki links to a page, so
one would have to be added.
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empty list items included, the way we imagine it will ultimately be
rendered.
For more information, see:
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49673
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performance team. I look forward to working with him on the
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elements we have flow content. You're still not allowed to put a
div inside a span, because span is phrasing content and div isn't.
The children column here has a summary:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/index.html#elements-1
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Language choice. Tidy is written in C. Note that I included shelling
out to Node.js as an option in my original post. It's not really part
of Parsoid, it's a JavaScript library that Parsoid uses. We would use
the same JavaScript library with a few lines of wrapper code.
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might also be possible. A
non-service fallback for small installations might be Node.js or a
compiled binary from Rust or C++.
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If there are still no negative comments after the [WIP] tag is
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and monitoring and a distributed logging system are already implemented.
It doesn't have authorisation, but I thought that was going to be in a
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parsers, I think
we would have to split out Parser::firstCallInit() to a separate, more
persistent object.
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