I'd like to ask for more eyes and participation in an issue that is in an
apparent stalemate.
It all started with revision 105280
(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105280), where
Hashdar commited a new color scheme for diffs based on the French scheme.
When this generated
It's the exact same yellow as before, guys. The *exact* shade.
This is the exact definition of a bikeshed argument. Feel free to
move along.
On 12/22/11 10:33 AM, Erwin Dokter wrote:
I'd like to ask for more eyes and participation in an issue that is in an
apparent
Brandon Harris wrote:
It's the exact same yellow as before, guys. The *exact* shade.
This is the exact definition of a bikeshed argument. Feel free to
move along.
But that is exactly the problem; you left in the *old* yellow against a much
mellower blue. If that blue was
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl wrote:
It all started with revision 105280
(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105280), where
Hashdar commited a new color scheme for diffs based on the French scheme.
When this generated some flack for making
But that is exactly the problem; you left in the *old* yellow against a much
mellower blue. If that blue was as bright as the old green, it would be much
less of a problem. I don't know how expert you are in CSS and web colors,
but there should really have been more attention to matching all
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
What was the purpose of changing colors? Aesthetics? If yes, this is
bikeshedding. If there isn't a really good reason to change the
colors, don't. If you are changing the colors so that they are more
accessible for color
- Original Message -
From: Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org
It's the exact same yellow as before, guys. The *exact* shade.
This is the exact definition of a bikeshed argument. Feel free to
move along.
I don't see, Brandon, that Erwin suggested that it is not.
But no,
- Original Message -
From: Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com
As they say on enwiki, [citation needed].
Well, we probably say {{citation-needed}}, but... :-)
Cheers,
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On 12/22/11 12:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Brandon Harrisbhar...@wikimedia.org
It's the exact same yellow as before, guys. The *exact* shade.
This is the exact definition of a bikeshed argument. Feel free to
move along.
I don't see, Brandon, that Erwin
- Original Message -
From: Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org
The yellow is *unchanged*
Is this not what Erwin's on about?
So. What was *supposed* to be a 15 minute task has now turned into a
drama - over something I don't really care that much about anyways.
Well, that's a sort
Let me address my concerns step by step, as you obviously still don't grasp
what the major issue is.
Brandon wrote:
Here's what happened:
* I was asked to look at the bug as part of my 20% code review.
* I applied Erwin's patch (manually) and then played with changing
colors around to
Why didn't you test the original blue/green? What were your findings on
that? You should have applied the colors as present in the patch, as these
were the colors agreen upon in the original commit, which were blue for
deleted content, and green for added content. Those had been tested by
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
Green has a meaning of Go or of this is ok in many cultures.
Making either side green gives a bias to the diff. Similarly with red.
Red means Stop or this is not ok. Many people associate red with
blood, and green with
Ryan wrote:
Green has a meaning of Go or of this is ok in many cultures.
Making either side green gives a bias to the diff. Similarly with red.
Red means Stop or this is not ok. Many people associate red with
blood, and green with nature.
When the French created the new color scheme, they
May I remind y'all that you are continuing to bikeshed. It's not that it
doesn't matter, it's that a very small number of people care very very
much. Speaking of a disaster that's already happening, if y'all don't move
this conversation to wikicolors-yellow-blue-green-re...@lists.wikimedia.org,
I've stated in CR that I don't think light light green has any real cultural
issue. It shouldn't be ruled out on those grounds. Red, on the other hand,
has stronger connotations. Part of it comes from the fact that GUIs vry
often have certain color standards, e.g.:
Blue: notice, fyi, please
So just a reminder to y'all:
* the primary indicator is physical ordering (left = before; right = after)
* the secondary indicator is + and - symbols indicating additional and
removal
* the colors are totally arbitrary to help set sections apart from each
other visibly
* the only important thing
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
* the only important thing about the colors is that the text is legible
We could save this debate by just making them the same color. ;-)
/trolling
Steven
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of usability, why is this mailing list called Wiki Tech List Lists
Wiki Media org? Surely there's some extra duplicate redundancy there there?
It isn't, that's just what your $mail_client decided to call it,
Hello Erwin,
Thanks for bringing this on the wikitech-l list!
Erwin Dokter wrote:
It all started with revision 105280
(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105280), where
Hashdar commited a new color scheme for diffs based on the French scheme.
When this generated some flack
Steven Walling wrote:
We could save this debate by just making them the same color.
troll
I purpose white for both sides since it hits all eye cone cells :-D
/troll
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of usability, why is this mailing list called Wiki Tech List Lists
Wiki Media org? Surely there's some extra duplicate redundancy there there?
Do you mean the -l suffix is redundant with the list. prefix? Yes,
Thanks for your reply, Antoine.
Antoine Musso wrote:
I have looked at your patch this afternoon. Your colors are not that
much different from Brandon one. It is clearly not worth it to spend
hours and hours in discussion just to add 1% of red in a yellow color
or 0.5% of green in the blue
On 22/12/11 22:37, Ryan Lane wrote:
Green has a meaning of Go or of this is ok in many cultures.
Making either side green gives a bias to the diff. Similarly with red.
Red means Stop or this is not ok. Many people associate red with
blood, and green with nature.
- Ryan
I don't see why that
On 22/12/11 23:59, Erwin Dokter wrote:
Note: revisions are not definitives. We can always amend them later on.
Until 1.19 is suddenly branched off... game over. Is there an expected
timeframe or announcement for when this might happen?
Even then it could be backported. That revisions are
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com
Green has a meaning of Go or of this is ok in many cultures.
Making either side green gives a bias to the diff. Similarly with red.
Red means Stop or this is not ok. Many people associate red with
blood, and green with nature.
- Original Message -
From: Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
* the only important thing about the colors is that the text is
legible
We could save this debate by just making them the same color. ;-)
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