Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-24 Thread Vi to
Then the foundation should assign higher priority to projects (to fund) which take into account environmental impact. For example a GLAM project printing fliers would rank better if fliers are printed on recycled paper. Same for suppliers/providers of any kind of good: the less the impact the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-23 Thread Ricordisamoa
Server consumption of course but what about the impact of email, food, transport etc? Earth Hour: switch the wikis to a dark skin Il 30/03/2016 09:27, Lukas Mezger ha scritto: Dear readers of the Wikitech mailing list, I am a member of the Wikipedia community and I have started a project to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
> > This is why I was hoping > that someone could explain the technicalities of the U.S. energy system to > me – can't we simply ask our datacenter providers to order renewable energy > for our servers, maybe for an extra charge? This is what you can do in > Europe, but I have a feeling things are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-18 Thread Pine W
Some of this depends on geography. For example, in Washington State, we have significant hydroelectric capacity. (See http://www.eia.gov/state/print.cfm?sid=WA) My understanding is that some data centers are being placed in the far global north to take advantage of cold air or water

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-18 Thread Lukas Mezger
You are right that our demand in bandwidth is comparably low, Ryan. But we do have an extremely strong brand, and the power of some really great people working and volunteering for Wikimedia. This is why I was hoping that someone could explain the technicalities of the U.S. energy system to me –

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Lukas Mezger wrote: > Yes, we're also looking into reducing the environmental impact of the rest > of the activities in the Wikimedia movement. And I am very aware that many > websites consume a lot more energy than Wikipedia does.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-16 Thread Lukas Mezger
Yes, we're also looking into reducing the environmental impact of the rest of the activities in the Wikimedia movement. And I am very aware that many websites consume a lot more energy than Wikipedia does. (Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact for more information.) But

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-16 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Lukas Mezger wrote: > >> With the help of Juliet Barbara and Gregory Varnum, we now have detailed >> public figures regarding the energy use and energy sources of the Wikimedia >> servers:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-16 Thread Giuseppe Lavagetto
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I think it's stretching the metaphor to call ops a "tight ship". We > could switch off spare servers in codfw for a substantial power > saving, in exchange for a ~10 minute penalty in failover time. But it > would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-15 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Lukas Mezger wrote: > With the help of Juliet Barbara and Gregory Varnum, we now have detailed > public figures regarding the energy use and energy sources of the Wikimedia > servers: As of May 2016, the servers use 222 kW, summing up to about 2 GWh > of electrical energy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-15 Thread Lukas Mezger
Dear readers of the Wikitech mailing list, With the help of Juliet Barbara and Gregory Varnum, we now have detailed public figures regarding the energy use and energy sources of the Wikimedia servers: As of May 2016, the servers use 222 kW, summing up to about 2 GWh of electrical energy per year.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Katherine Maher
Thanks Tim for clarifying. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 31/03/16 02:55, Katherine Maher wrote: > > IIRC, we included clean energy consumption as a factor in > > evaluating in our RFC for our choice of a backup colo a few years back > > Since

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Tim Starling
On 31/03/16 02:55, Katherine Maher wrote: > IIRC, we included clean energy consumption as a factor in > evaluating in our RFC for our choice of a backup colo a few years back Since I strongly support emissions reduction, on my own initiative I did an analysis of expected CO2 emissions of each of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Scott MacLeod
Thanks for sharing this Katherine, and All, Best regards, Scott On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Katherine Maher wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks Lukas for bringing this back up. Since my name was mentioned, I'll > share some context, but I'm copying my colleague Juliet

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi all, Thanks Lukas for bringing this back up. Since my name was mentioned, I'll share some context, but I'm copying my colleague Juliet Barbara who is best positioned to move this forward, as she is the current holder of our relationship with Greenpeace. The Comms, Finance, and COO teams met

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Lukas Mezger
Dear MZMcBride and Brion, Thank you for your comments! Let me quickly respond to a few points. – I have in fact already looked at previous conversations regarding the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement, but apparently they never went anywhere. From my point of view, the topic leaves

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Lukas Mezger wrote: > Dear readers of the Wikitech mailing list, > > I am a member of the Wikipedia community and I have started a project to > reduce the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread MZMcBride
Lukas Mezger wrote: >I am a member of the Wikipedia community and I have started a project to >reduce the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement >. The main idea is >to use renewable energy for running the Wikimedia servers and the main

[Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-03-30 Thread Lukas Mezger
Dear readers of the Wikitech mailing list, I am a member of the Wikipedia community and I have started a project to reduce the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement . The main idea is to use renewable energy for running the Wikimedia