Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Should we meet? +1 It's not easy since everybody has busy agenda but suggestions are welcome. My talk[1] is on Saturday after lunch, I plan to spend the most of Saturday in testing and automation devroom[2]. Bytenight Bye Bye Garage[3] on Saturday evening looks interesting. I have no plans for Sunday yet. For starters, my jetlag and me will be at https://fosdem.org/2013/** practical/beerevent/ https://fosdem.org/2013/practical/beerevent/ on Friday evening. +1. I should arrive to Brussels at 5:30pm. I will go to the hotel and then to the beer event. If anybody else arrives to Brussels around 5:30, we can go to the hotel together. My theory is that traveling in group increases chances of arriving to the destination. I guess we are all at the same hotel (NH Grand Place Arenberg). We can even go to the event together. Depending on how fast I get to the hotel I could go to the event around 7-8pm. Željko -- [1] https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/testing_mediawiki/ [2] https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/testing_and_automation/ [3] http://www.hackerspace.be/Bytenight_Bye_Bye_Garage ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
fyi, If you've never been at the beerevent before. It gets VERY crowded. henna On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Should we meet? +1 It's not easy since everybody has busy agenda but suggestions are welcome. My talk[1] is on Saturday after lunch, I plan to spend the most of Saturday in testing and automation devroom[2]. Bytenight Bye Bye Garage[3] on Saturday evening looks interesting. I have no plans for Sunday yet. For starters, my jetlag and me will be at https://fosdem.org/2013/** practical/beerevent/ https://fosdem.org/2013/practical/beerevent/ on Friday evening. +1. I should arrive to Brussels at 5:30pm. I will go to the hotel and then to the beer event. If anybody else arrives to Brussels around 5:30, we can go to the hotel together. My theory is that traveling in group increases chances of arriving to the destination. I guess we are all at the same hotel (NH Grand Place Arenberg). We can even go to the event together. Depending on how fast I get to the hotel I could go to the event around 7-8pm. Željko -- [1] https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/testing_mediawiki/ [2] https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/testing_and_automation/ [3] http://www.hackerspace.be/Bytenight_Bye_Bye_Garage ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Maybe you knew early on that your track went from point A to B, but unlike you I wasn't given a map at birth! Alyssa, Chasing Amy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: fyi, If you've never been at the beerevent before. It gets VERY crowded. This is my first time at FOSDEM. Are you suggesting we should not go, or just to prepare? :) Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: fyi, If you've never been at the beerevent before. It gets VERY crowded. This is my first time at FOSDEM. Are you suggesting we should not go, or just to prepare? :) No, just that it might not be the easiest place to meet up with people due to the crowd. It waxes and wanes and it's perfectly fine if you like crowds/are there early. Otherwise if you're looking for a meetup for MW people I can suggest a few alternative places. henna Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Maybe you knew early on that your track went from point A to B, but unlike you I wasn't given a map at birth! Alyssa, Chasing Amy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia
(not sure if this is the right list) There was the question raised about adding Wikidata pagecount data to the dumps. As far as I can tell Wikivoyage is already inside the data (although not described on the description page), but I could not find Wikidata (maybe I am just missing the right abbreviation, maybe it is not there). Can someone help with this? Should I make a bug on bugzilla? Cheers, Denny -- Forwarded message -- From: Ed Summers e...@pobox.com Date: 2013/1/28 Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. wikidat...@lists.wikimedia.org On the subject of stats are there any plans to add wikidata access stats to: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/ Or are they available elsewhere? //Ed On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 28/01/13 15:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Is anyone interested in getting us some stats for the deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia? There is a database dump at http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html from the 22nd of January that could be used. I'm interested in the effect Wikidata had so far on this one Wikipedia. Not from dumps, but from Toolserver, I don't see some reduction in bot activity. Number of bot edits in last 12 months: 201201 61527 201202 48472 201203 3 201204 60875 201205 56364 201206 56483 201207 49836 201208 50862 201209 39235 201210 44943 201211 37492 201212 52815 201301 40258 ___ Wikidata-l mailing list wikidat...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list wikidat...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Nexus Maven repo
heya, for all you Java junkies out there, oh wait there are very few within WMF :) Anyways, if you do Java you can now use the Nexus Maven repo that is installed on Labs at http://nexus.wmflabs.org/nexus/index.html#welcome We are happy to give you an account, please poke us on IRC @ wikimedia-analytics or email David Schoonover or me. Best, Diederik ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee as the Language Engineering team’s outreach and QA coordinator. Runa will be responsible for the team’s language focused technical outreach activities as well as working with Wikimedia’s language communities to get feedback on internationalization and localization features being developed or deployed to Wikimedia sites. Runa started working in the world of open source software as a volunteer translator for Bengalinux - a community of volunteers working on Indic language technology during its early years. Runa joins us from Red Hat where she worked as part of the Localization Services group. At Red Hat she participated in the development and maturity of Indic language features in open source enterprise products like Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). For the past year she has also helped enhance the latest version of Zanata, an open source translation platform. She has contributed for many years as a localizer to several GNOME, Fedora and Mozilla projects. Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. She is excited to be part of the Language Engineering group at Wikimedia Foundation and looking forward to work on innovations and contributions. She can be reached on email at r...@wikimedia.org or as ‘arrbee’ on our irc channels including #mediawiki, #wikimedia-dev and #mediawiki-i18n. Her blog is at arrbee.wordpress.com Welcome Runa! I am excited to have you on the language engineering team! Alolita -- Alolita Sharma Director of Engineering Language Engineering Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome Runa! I am excited to have you on the language engineering team! Woh! Welcome Runa. I was already wondering where you'd go after leaving RH. This is fantastic news. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
Welcome Runa. It's great that we can finally share the good news! -- Siebrand Mazeland M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand Op 28 jan. 2013 om 22:10 heeft Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.org het volgende geschreven: Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee as the Language Engineering team’s outreach and QA coordinator. Runa will be responsible for the team’s language focused technical outreach activities as well as working with Wikimedia’s language communities to get feedback on internationalization and localization features being developed or deployed to Wikimedia sites. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
Hoi, Runa, welcome and make yourself heard :) Thanks, Gerard On 28 January 2013 22:10, Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee as the Language Engineering team’s outreach and QA coordinator. Runa will be responsible for the team’s language focused technical outreach activities as well as working with Wikimedia’s language communities to get feedback on internationalization and localization features being developed or deployed to Wikimedia sites. Runa started working in the world of open source software as a volunteer translator for Bengalinux - a community of volunteers working on Indic language technology during its early years. Runa joins us from Red Hat where she worked as part of the Localization Services group. At Red Hat she participated in the development and maturity of Indic language features in open source enterprise products like Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). For the past year she has also helped enhance the latest version of Zanata, an open source translation platform. She has contributed for many years as a localizer to several GNOME, Fedora and Mozilla projects. Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. She is excited to be part of the Language Engineering group at Wikimedia Foundation and looking forward to work on innovations and contributions. She can be reached on email at r...@wikimedia.org or as ‘arrbee’ on our irc channels including #mediawiki, #wikimedia-dev and #mediawiki-i18n. Her blog is at arrbee.wordpress.com Welcome Runa! I am excited to have you on the language engineering team! Alolita -- Alolita Sharma Director of Engineering Language Engineering Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] varying ResourceLoader module dependencies
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 01/27/2013 07:58 PM, S Page wrote: How can an extension have a soft requirement on a module, so that it only adds that module to its ResourceLoader dependencies if the extension providing that module is loaded? For example, there's no sense in depending on ext.eventLog if the wiki doesn't load Extension:EventLogging, but if it's available then you want the module sent to the browser along with your code. (Obviously your JS would check to see if the module's functions are available before invoking them.) That's one design decision, but I don't think it's the obvious one. In fact, it's rather uncommon. The way most loggers are used, you can always call the log function (without checking, or defining your own shim), and it's up to the logging library to be a no-op or actually log. Matt Flaschen I agree, but if it is unknown whether the wiki had this logging library installed, that approach doesn't help. However to get back at S' question, I'd recommend changing the rules because the game is no fun this way. Variable dependencies mean you can't rely on something, that's an unacceptable design. Whatever it is that insists the need for a variable dependency should be changed instead. I think the picture you present is misrepresented. I'd say, just depend on it. But for some reason you don't want to. Requiring that the wiki install it seems like a trivial thing. That can't be the real reason. I presume that when you say it is unknown whether the wiki has it installed, the real issue is that it is unknown whether the wiki has it enabled at this time. Being able to disable logging whenever you desire is a valid use case. However in that case the problem lies with the logging library to come up with a sane way to enable/disable the library that does not involve commenting out the require_once line of the extensions' installation. But for example something like $wgEventLoggingEnable. Then the logging library would disable the backend API when the extension is disabled and also swap the front-end client for a no-op. -- Krinkle ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] varying ResourceLoader module dependencies
On 01/28/2013 04:55 PM, Krinkle wrote: Requiring that the wiki install it seems like a trivial thing. That can't be the real reason. I presume that when you say it is unknown whether the wiki has it installed, the real issue is that it is unknown whether the wiki has it enabled at this time. I also proposed that we say just install it. There is already a default blank configuration (e.g. $wgEventLoggingFile = false is already the default). We just need to make sure it behaves correctly as a no-op logger out of the box. The only down side is you have to do an extra git clone, which I don't think is a big deal. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On 01/28/2013 05:05 AM, Finne Boonen wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: fyi, If you've never been at the beerevent before. It gets VERY crowded. This is my first time at FOSDEM. Are you suggesting we should not go, or just to prepare? :) No, just that it might not be the easiest place to meet up with people due to the crowd. It waxes and wanes and it's perfectly fine if you like crowds/are there early. Otherwise if you're looking for a meetup for MW people I can suggest a few alternative places. I have been to the Beer event once and this is why I'm really happy about repeating. :) Yes, it is packed. I was proposing it as the first place where we can casually meet with the help of Twitter etc. If you bring a good jacket, the street outside is fine for chats. And remember to add with beer in every sentence of this paragraph. :) What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? (On Saturday also there is a GNOME evening at 9pm and I was planning to attend to catch up with some old friends.) fwiw my session is on Sunday at 15:35 (Ferrer - Lightning sessions) and I will stay in Brussels on Sunday night, with free agenda so far. -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
On 01/28/2013 04:10 PM, Alolita Sharma wrote: Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee as the Language Engineering team’s outreach and QA coordinator. Runa will be responsible for the team’s language focused technical outreach activities as well as working with Wikimedia’s language communities to get feedback on internationalization and localization features being developed or deployed to Wikimedia sites. Runa started working in the world of open source software as a volunteer translator for Bengalinux - a community of volunteers working on Indic language technology during its early years. Runa joins us from Red Hat where she worked as part of the Localization Services group. At Red Hat she participated in the development and maturity of Indic language features in open source enterprise products like Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). For the past year she has also helped enhance the latest version of Zanata, an open source translation platform. She has contributed for many years as a localizer to several GNOME, Fedora and Mozilla projects. Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. She is excited to be part of the Language Engineering group at Wikimedia Foundation and looking forward to work on innovations and contributions. She can be reached on email at r...@wikimedia.org or as ‘arrbee’ on our irc channels including #mediawiki, #wikimedia-dev and #mediawiki-i18n. Her blog is at arrbee.wordpress.com Welcome Runa! I am excited to have you on the language engineering team! Alolita Congrats and welcome, Runa! I'm reading your blog and I agree with what you said in https://arrbee.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/akademy-2012-talk-transcript-localizing-software-in-multi-cultural-environments/ -- that we need to learn from case studies and from others who have worked on similar problems. It is SO GREAT that we will get to benefit from your experience in other projects! Extremely quick tip: ?uselang=qqx in any MediaWiki URI is *magic*. Example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=qqx -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
On 01/28/2013 04:10 PM, Alolita Sharma wrote: Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. Welcome! Indeed, it's an exciting time. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you bring a good jacket, the street outside is fine for chats. And remember to add with beer in every sentence of this paragraph. :) Warm jacket and cold beer it is then. :) What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? +1. fwiw my session is on Sunday at 15:35 (Ferrer - Lightning sessions) and I will stay in Brussels on Sunday night, with free agenda so far. I am also there on Sunday night, no plans so far. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee
Welcome here! Languages are your topic? Really great playground! Marco Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org schrieb: On 01/28/2013 04:10 PM, Alolita Sharma wrote: Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. Welcome! Indeed, it's an exciting time. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Hackathon 2013 brainstorming
On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: * Unclear (to me, still) actual purpose, goal and fit with the rest of Wikimania. The people who run the hackathon can choose to concentrate on inreach, which will happen anyway: the existing Wikimedia tech community gets together and aligns and executes. And/or, the hackathon organizers can choose to concentrate on empowering regular Wikimedians to learn skills, to improve their own browsing and contributing experiences, and to possibly join the tech crowd. I'm in favor of doing it as inreach/outreach hybrid, because the former will happen practically on its own, and the latter is a big opportunity. The big commitment necessary for outreach: we must arrange to have several extroverted helpers onsite, to matchmake and help newbies get past blocks. Three is not enough. Asheesh and Quim, of the newbie-to-WM-tech participants in the Wikimania 2012 hackathon, can you tell what proportion are still contributing now? -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tablepager
On 26/01/13 12:21, Lukas Benedix wrote:
Hi,
i have several questions about the TablePager-Class:
* is it possible to change the styling of the tables?
* * The default-style is blue
(http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tablepager.PNG)
* * all other Tables are grey
(http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Version.PNG)
Yeah, I see an interesting stylesheet comment there:
/**
* Data table style
*
* Transparent table with suddle borders
* and blue row-highlighting.
*/
It should be overridable with getTableClass(), but someone who can't
spell subtle has hacked it up so that you can't, adding a hard-coded
mw-datatable class.
Submit a core patch to gerrit to move the mw-datatable class to
getTableClass(), like
function getTableClass() {
return 'mw-datatable TablePager';
}
And remove the hard-coding from getStartBody(). Then you will be able
to change the class, and use descendant selectors to style any part of
the table.
* is it possible to change the sort-order in a sortable tablepager-table?
* * with function getDefaultSort() I can only sort in ascending order
You can use:
class MyTablePager extends TablePager {
function __construct( IContextSource $context = null ) {
parent::__construct( $context );
$this-mDefaultDirection = true;
}
}
* is there some more documentation than:
http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classTablePager.html ?
No.
-- Tim Starling
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