Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Ori Livneh
Erik Moeller wrote: What would be the disadvantage of having a single I'd like the latest and greatest changes once they come in preference for our users? The main disadvantage I see is that we'd need to temporarily retain two codepaths for significant user-facing changes, potentially

[Wikitech-l] Is there something like a gerrit/git download statistics overview page?

2013-05-07 Thread Thomas Gries
Hi, perhaps I am too naive that it could be implemented with a git-based repo, but is there a kind of download, clone, or access statistics available for core and extensions ? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 12:52 -0700, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Also, the majority of bugs that are in the Highest/Immediate priority level (from my gut assessment, I don't have the data here) are found after a deploy to non-WP projects. I agree with that impression: We don't get many (manually

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 05/07/2013 08:47 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 12:52 -0700, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Also, the majority of bugs that are in the Highest/Immediate priority level (from my gut assessment, I don't have the data here) are found after a deploy to non-WP projects. I agree with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is there something like a gerrit/git download statistics overview page?

2013-05-07 Thread Dan Andreescu
I can't speak for gerrit but it seems to me github tried, failed, and abandoned capturing these statistics: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6198194/how-to-see-count-of-project-downloads-on-github On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Hi, perhaps I am too naive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is there something like a gerrit/git download statistics overview page?

2013-05-07 Thread Chad
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org wrote: I can't speak for gerrit but it seems to me github tried, failed, and abandoned capturing these statistics: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6198194/how-to-see-count-of-project-downloads-on-github On Tue, May 7,

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: On May 3, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Anomie wrote: Taking a recent example[1], please tell me how to compress the following into 62 characters: (in the New features section) * (bug 45535) introduced the new 'LanguageLinks' hook

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread James Forrester
On 7 May 2013 08:52, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Oh, so not mentioning the breaking API change at all? Definitely not good. I think you're missing the bit of Timo's proposal where all breaking changes have to *additionally* have a Breaking change: Foo bar baz in the Breaking

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Sumana Harihareswara date=2013-05-07 time=10:20:05 -0400 Backing that impression up with Bugzilla data: tl;dr: That's hard. snip The results don't back up my impression. One potential reason: Development teams file tickets *at some point* and don't see priority immediately,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Arthur Richards
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: We may want to consider at least putting some such scaffolding for beta-prod desktop modes into place before shifting to weekly deployments, although if that holds up this change significantly, I'd be in favor of making

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
Google just allocated slots and... On 05/05/2013 09:23 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Based on the feedback received from the mentors we are requesting 11 min 21 max ... WE HAVE GOT 21 SLOTS ALLOWED First: congratulations to everybody involved: mentors AND students. This number reflects

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Leslie Carr
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The reason I ask about a distinction is that there have been a lot of changes to Wikimedia wikis lately and likely more to come, as the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
That's awesome, Quim. Thanks for all your efforts, support, encouragement and guidance so far. The best is yet to come! May you enjoy many more alcohol-free drinks in celebration of future milestones passed. Cheers! Siebrand On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Krinkle
On May 7, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: On May 3, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Anomie wrote: Taking a recent example[1], please tell me how to compress the following into 62 characters: (in the New

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Tue, 07 May 2013 20:51:07 +0200, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: It is the duty of repository co-owners to make wise decisions beyond just code quality. About what changes go in what release (if at all), whether the introduced features are in the best interest of the users and that we

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Chad
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 20:51:07 +0200, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: It is the duty of repository co-owners to make wise decisions beyond just code quality. About what changes go in what release (if at all),

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Leslie Carr date=2013-05-07 time=11:43:47 -0700 I think this is awesome for features ... but if we're putting work into this, I would love even more to have a clustered a+b production environment, such that 10% of folks are put on the new release (cluster a) and then it gets

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:05 +0200, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: The current process for release notes is fine; we just need someone to write a custom merge driver for JGit to avoid the merge conflicts. This is a technical issue, not a policy one. As I said many times before, this

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-07 Thread Chad
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:05 +0200, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: The current process for release notes is fine; we just need someone to write a custom merge driver for JGit to avoid the merge conflicts. This

[Wikitech-l] create bugzilla project for PageSchemas, Lingo and Semantic Glossary

2013-05-07 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi everyone! How is it possible to create a project in Bugzilla for the extensions we're developing? Cheers, - Yury Katkov, WikiVote ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] create bugzilla project for PageSchemas, Lingo and Semantic Glossary

2013-05-07 Thread Valerie Juarez
Hey Yury, This should be what you're looking for: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Project_Maintainers#To_add_a_project_or_component -Valerie On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! How is it possible to create a project in

Re: [Wikitech-l] create bugzilla project for PageSchemas, Lingo and Semantic Glossary

2013-05-07 Thread Yury Katkov
Thanks! - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Valerie Juarez valerie.m.jua...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Yury, This should be what you're looking for: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Project_Maintainers#To_add_a_project_or_component -Valerie On Tue, May

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC mentors: selection process

2013-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, a little detail I just learned. On 05/06/2013 11:42 AM, Quim Gil wrote: * But you do need to specify which student you select for the 1-2 projects you are co-mentoring. Agree the names with your co-mentors. You can't be in more than 2 projects, and ideally in just one. Google's Melange

[Wikitech-l] Submit OKCon talks by 24 May - travel subsidies available

2013-05-07 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/07/okcon-2013-call-for-proposals-out-now/ OKCon is the annual conference for Open Knowledge (Foundation), 17th-18th September 2013, Geneva, Switzerland. It was called OKFest last year. It's a well-attended and well-organized conference for anyone interested in open

[Wikitech-l] WikiSym + OpenSym 2013: Less than 2 weeks for Community Track Submissions

2013-05-07 Thread Dirk Riehle
Call for Submissions: Community Track at WikSym + OpenSym 2013, the Joint International Symposium on Open Collaboration WikiSym, the 9th International Symposium on Wikis and Open Collaboration OpenSym, the 2013 International Symposium on Open Collaboration August 5-7, 2013 | Hong Kong, China

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread Rahul Maliakkal
Hi Quim Great News, Youve struck Gold. Cheers to WMF :) On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Harsh Kothari harshkothari...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Quim This is fantastic news. Your efforts paid off. Congrats to all. :) Cheers Harsh On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Pragun Bhutani

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread Parth Srivastav
Hi Quim Great news, Congrats to the entire team On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Rahul Maliakkal rahul14...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Quim Great News, Youve struck Gold. Cheers to WMF :) On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Harsh Kothari harshkothari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Quim This is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/07/2013 03:02 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: 3) New wmfXX released to 10% of cluster - 10% being something like: test, test2, mediawiki.org, and some of the non-'pedia project sites - Our users do the testing ;-) I was interpreting Leslie as saying 10% cross-cut throughout. I.E.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/07/2013 04:46 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: I was interpreting Leslie as saying 10% cross-cut throughout. I.E. 10% of German Wiktionary, 10% of Japanese Wikinews, 10% of English Wikipedia, 10% of everything. That would mean we would really get wide testing before it rolled out to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread David Cuenca
Excellent news! Congratulations to everyone involved! Cheers, David On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Parth Srivastav srivastav.pa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Quim Great news, Congrats to the entire team On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Rahul Maliakkal rahul14...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Quim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Matthew Flaschen date=2013-05-07 time=16:47:32 -0400 On 05/07/2013 04:46 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: I was interpreting Leslie as saying 10% cross-cut throughout. I.E. 10% of German Wiktionary, 10% of Japanese Wikinews, 10% of English Wikipedia, 10% of everything. That

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Krautzberger
Congratulations! Peter. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent news! Congratulations to everyone involved! Cheers, David On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Parth Srivastav srivastav.pa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Quim Great news, Congrats to the

[Wikitech-l] APIStrat conference, San Francisco, October 23, 24, 25

2013-05-07 Thread Juliusz Gonera
A friend of mine is co-organizing a conference about APIs. She asked me if there is someone from Wikimedia or the community who would be interested in participating. It will take place in Parc 55 Hotel in San Francisco on October 23, 24, 25. A bit of information about the conference: APIStrat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-05-07 Thread Platonides
On 06/05/13 18:12, Guillaume Paumier wrote: Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla integration to replace code review tags. I was wondering: has a decision been made

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC mentors: selection process

2013-05-07 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/2013 01:12 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: I would like to provide some feedback, too: The whole process of GSoC was very confusing to me. Students communicated on melange, mediawiki.org http://mediawiki.org, and mailing lists. Some also emailed me and others privately. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-07 Thread MZMcBride
Leslie Carr wrote: I think this is awesome for features ... but if we're putting work into this, I would love even more to have a clustered a+b production environment, such that 10% of folks are put on the new release (cluster a) and then it gets pushed over to cluster b. Then we can also test