Re: [Wikitech-l] is this list's archives searchable?

2015-11-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mailing list archive search is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T19390 There are however multiple specialised search engines for our mailing lists out there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Isarra Yos
Is there any way to use addModuleStyles() so that it outputs browser-conditional stylesheets? Such that such a one could apply only to IE8-? That's really what I need here. On 15/11/15 00:17, Krinkle wrote: Just wanna make a small correction here to avoid confusion. The top and bottom queue

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Isarra Yos
I agree that it's important to move away from desktop-first, but switching to mobile-first isn't the answer either. For complex products (discussion boards, skins, anything that could benefit from a lot of space), there are going mobile-specific styles same as any other resolution - do ANY as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread Pine W
Agreed. If I had a binary choice between investing in Echo and investing in Flow, I would be inclined to choose Echo. Pine On Nov 14, 2015 7:08 AM, "Derk-Jan Hartman" wrote: > Thank goodness. Finally we might be able to start fully building out the > promise of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread MZMcBride
Pine W wrote: >Agreed. If I had a binary choice between investing in Echo and investing >in Flow, I would be inclined to choose Echo. Can you please elaborate on why you would prioritize Echo over Flow? The Wikimedia Foundation has made the same decision and it's mind-boggling to me. I'd really

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread Pine W
Hi MZMcBride, The hypothetical here is that I have a binary choice between Echo and Flow. In practice it's possible to develop them in parallel. With the hypothetical in mind, I'll outline why I would prioritize Echo. My thinking is that Echo is used widely on many, many wikis and is helpful to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank goodness. Finally we might be able to start fully building out the promise of powerful, targeted and appropriate messaging that Echo always was the the kick off for. I especially like the acknowledgment of the 'volume knob'. Balancing the 'noise' of messaging is going to be really

[Wikitech-l] Which hook to use and how for pre-save-modifications of wikitext?

2015-11-14 Thread Purodha Blissenbach
Hi, I want to implement something similar to expansion or the pipe-trick in internal links in an extension. That is, I need to execute code - on save and preview only, - on wikitext ony, - on page content only, - before the pre-save-parser treats links in the wikitext, - altering the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Jon Robson
I should also add that the reason I say this is that IE8 is not the only browser that doesn't support media queries. There are many browsers that were written before IE8 and installed on phones with no upgrade path. This is just one of the biggest ones. On 15 Nov 2015 7:08 a.m.,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Jon Robson
The solution to this is to do true mobile first development e.g. wrap your desktop and tablet styles in media queries. Rendering a mobile site in IE8 is an acceptable trade off and ensures the content remains readable which is the most important thing here. We (Wikimedia devs) still build desktop

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2015-11-14 2:39 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > While it is possible to simply add CSS to the page header using outputPage, > probably bypassing RL and all that entirely, this only works with CSS, not > LESS, because all the LESS magic is happening within RL. So without RL, > that means you need to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Krinkle
Just wanna make a small correction here to avoid confusion. The top and bottom queue are both JavaScript-enabled, using 'position' => 'top' only controls where the load() command is placed (at the top or bottom, naturally). Neither of these will run in IE 8 after January. What Florian is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which hook to use and how for pre-save-modifications of wikitext?

2015-11-14 Thread Jackmcbarn
Look how subst: works in the braceSubstitution function in Parser.php. Basically, do this: if ( $parser->ot['wiki'] ) { /* do your stuff */ }. On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Purodha Blissenbach < puro...@blissenbach.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I want to implement something similar to expansion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-14 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On 2015-11-13, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote: > Specifics about this can be seen at: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Machine_Translation/Yandex#Summary_of_terms_of_Yandex_agreement > Thanks! This is very helpful. The link was already in the FAQ

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-14 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On 2015-11-13, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: > Hi, > >> git clone >> ssh://review.openstack.org:29418/openstack-infra/git-review.git > > fatal: Could not read from remote repository. > > Please make sure you have the correct access rights > and the repository exists. > >