Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Seeking feedback on new Organizations feature on Ohloh

2012-10-18 Thread Quim Gil
(Re-sending to list) On 10/17/2012 05:52 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 16/10/12 23:42, Quim Gil a écrit : Hi, what about having Wikimedia features as organization in Ohloh? The proposal is interesting considering the current state of things: MediaWiki seems to be stalled with the SVN to Git

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Seeking feedback on new Organizations feature on Ohloh

2012-10-18 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Op 18 okt. 2012 om 08:23 heeft Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Brion, Siebrand and I are admins of the MediaWiki project on ohloh.net. Good to know. :) Do you want to contact Rich Sands from Ohloh? Do you want me to contact CCing you...? Yes and yes. Do you want to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Ok, I made it work, I think git clone https://github.com/atdt/wmf-vagrant.git cd ./wmf-vagrant: git submodule update --init vagrant up And indeed, it works like magic. This is an awesome beginning, Ori - thanks so much

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 18/10/12 03:26, Lars Aronsson wrote: User:Lsj has written 4000 lines of C# source code on top of the DotNetWikiBot framework, to create 10,000 articles in Swedish about bird species in the spring of 2012 and recently even more articles in Swedish about fungi species. Some information about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Seeking feedback on new Organizations feature on Ohloh

2012-10-18 Thread Quim Gil
On 10/17/2012 11:35 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: Op 18 okt. 2012 om 08:23 heeft Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Brion, Siebrand and I are admins of the MediaWiki project on ohloh.net. Good to know. :) Do you want to contact Rich Sands from Ohloh? Do you want me to

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: The need for such bots should cease after Wikidata is fully deployed. I suggest to interested programmers that they should direct their effort there. Why is that the case? I didn't understand the scope of Wikidata to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit summaries

2012-10-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 16/10/12 17:41, Harry Burt a écrit : Hey all, Unfortunately the combination of using commit summaries in release notes and the mass-merger of Wikidata code means that we now about several hundred somewhat cryptic commit summaries in the release notes [1]. [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 18/10/12 09:25, Steven Walling wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs wrote: The need for such bots should cease after Wikidata is fully deployed. I suggest to interested programmers that they should direct their effort there. Why is that the case? I

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC office hours with the Language Engineering team 2012-09-17 16:30 UTC

2012-10-18 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF)
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF) slakshma...@wikimedia.org wrote: The log[1] is available. The next Language Engineering office hour will be on 14th November. Thank you Apologies for the spam, the next office hours will be on 21st November, 3rd Wednesday as usual.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit summaries

2012-10-18 Thread Ori Livneh
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: During our first weeks using git, we have been asking people to write nice summary lines since they are used in Gerrit email notifications and in git log. I wrote a basic guideline (which has been improved since) that people can be

[Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi! When designing the ContentHandler, I asked around about whether JS and CSS pages should be parsed as wikitext, so categories etc would work. The gist of the responses I got was naw, lets get rid of that. So I did (though PST is still applied - Tim asked for that at the Berlin Hackathon).

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread John Erling Blad
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 18/10/12 09:25, Steven Walling wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs wrote: The need for such bots should cease after Wikidata is fully deployed. I suggest to interested

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit summaries

2012-10-18 Thread Tim Starling
On 18/10/12 19:08, Antoine Musso wrote: During our first weeks using git, we have been asking people to write nice summary lines since they are used in Gerrit email notifications and in git log. I wrote a basic guideline (which has been improved since) that people can be pointed at:

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 18/10/12 11:06, John Erling Blad wrote: well-formed text automatically. One of the more common problems are names that uses different inflection rules due to context and how they are written. Such inflection rules are not part of the Wikidata project and will probably be a major undertaking

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread John Erling Blad
Getting working inflection rules for even a single language is a major task, and doing so for several hundred languages would be a overwhelming task. I can't see how this can be implemented as part of the Wikidata project within a reasonable time frame. There is a few shortcuts that can be made,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit summaries

2012-10-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
Keep in mind this is not a problem with git, but a problem with gerrit. Git will work perfectly fine with summary lines over 62 characters (try git shortlog). *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
It seems like people have some pretty good reasons for parsing JS/CSS pages (categorization, backlinks, speedy deletion templates, etc.), so unless there is some significant disadvantage to MW for enabling parsing, I'm going to have to agree with the bug filer. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit summaries

2012-10-18 Thread Chad
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 18/10/12 19:08, Antoine Musso wrote: During our first weeks using git, we have been asking people to write nice summary lines since they are used in Gerrit email notifications and in git log. I wrote a basic

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Krinkle
On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: Hi! When designing the ContentHandler, I asked around about whether JS and CSS pages should be parsed as wikitext, so categories etc would work. The gist of the responses I got was naw, lets get rid of that. So I did

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
For now, we have no plans for Wikidata to create articles. This would, in my opinion, meddle too much with the autonomy of the Wikipedia language projects. What will be possible is to facilitate the creation of such bots, as some data that might be used for the article might be taken from and

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread John Erling Blad
For those interested this type of text synthesis, it can be done by using finite-state automata and transducers (FST's). The simplest way to make them is by cross-compiling into Lua from some other known form. John On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Seeking feedback on new Organizations feature on Ohloh

2012-10-18 Thread Quim Gil
On 10/17/2012 11:49 AM, Tomasz Finc wrote: And here are the links with relevant stats https://www.ohloh.net/p/WikipediaMobile https://www.ohloh.net/p/WLMMobile These projects point to https://github.com/wikimedia/* For sanity purposes, would it make sense to agree that Wikimedia projects

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Tomasz Finc
Since were getting serious about it let's move it to the Wikimedia repot On Oct 17, 2012 11:39 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Ok, I made it work, I think git clone https://github.com/atdt/wmf-vagrant.git

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Seeking feedback on new Organizations feature on Ohloh

2012-10-18 Thread Tomasz Finc
These are only on gerrit till we can test replication and have pull request support. On Oct 18, 2012 9:12 AM, Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/17/2012 11:49 AM, Tomasz Finc wrote: And here are the links with relevant stats

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Patrick Reilly
Done and done... https://github.com/wikimedia/wmf-vagrant Staff team has the following permissions push pull granted. — Patrick On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Since were getting serious about it let's move it to the Wikimedia repot On Oct 17, 2012

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Dear all, let me say it like this: WOH!!! All of our patchsets have been merged into core. You are awesome! Thank you so much! We won't leave you without new work, though. Three points: First, the merge of the ContentHandler branch is, now that it is being deployed, revealing issues in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Platonides
Yes, it should be put back. Unless maybe if there was a way to get out to wikitext from js. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Asher Feldman
Hi all, I'm excited to see that Max has made a lot of great progress in adding Solr support to the GeoData extension so that we don't have to use mysql for spatial search - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27610/ GeoData makes use of the Solarium php client, which is currently included as a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Ori Livneh
Woot! Thanks guys. I'll use my five-minute slot at the meet up tonight to demo its use. -- Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Patrick Reilly wrote: Done and done... https://github.com/wikimedia/wmf-vagrant Staff team has the following permissions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Patrick Reilly
That's awesome! Will it be recorded tonight? — Patrick On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Woot! Thanks guys. I'll use my five-minute slot at the meet up tonight to demo its use. -- Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 10:05

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki + Vagrant

2012-10-18 Thread Tomasz Finc
Chip is trying to use Hangout/Youtube to make it happen. --tomasz On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Patrick Reilly prei...@wikimedia.org wrote: That's awesome! Will it be recorded tonight? — Patrick On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Woot! Thanks guys.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Max Semenik
Whee! On 18.10.2012, 22:22 Asher wrote: Hi all, I'm excited to see that Max has made a lot of great progress in adding Solr support to the GeoData extension so that we don't have to use mysql for spatial search - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27610/ GeoData makes use of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Alolita Sharma
Asher - great suggestion! TranslationMemory also uses Solarium, a copy of which is also bundled with and loaded from the extension. For a loading and config example -

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader support coming soon for mobile

2012-10-18 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: I've made a modest initial stab at MobileFrontend support for using ResourceLoader directly, using a 'target' filtering technique that we discussed with Trevor, Roan, and Timo. This is another step in integrating

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Strainu
2012/10/18 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: Yes, it should be put back. Unless maybe if there was a way to get out to wikitext from js. Perhaps it would make sense to only parse comments? it might slightly degrade performance, though, and would also require a small level of adaptation from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi guys, as far as I know, there is also a project in GESIS institute that couples Semantic MediaWiki and Solr to get cool faceted search. Simon Bachenberg (in Cc) will make the presentation of this project soon on a conference. http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012/SolrStore -

Re: [Wikitech-l] First open tech meeting with video broadcast - 10/18

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
We're about to get started, join #wikimedia-dev-meetings on irc.freenode.net for details. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___

[Wikitech-l] Message system based HTML snippets

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Werner
Right now we are about to implement some kind of basic template Engine to share HTML on the server side as well as on the client side in JavaScript. Basically this will be a bunch of HTML snippets which we will put into a resource loader module and send to the client. The snippets will need some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-10-18 Thread Strainu
2012/10/18 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: Second, we have created a document describing how data from Wikidata is being synched (or percolated, or propagated, or moved, or whatever the word shall be) to the Wikipedias. This is the core technical heart of Wikidata's inner magic,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:22:05AM -0700, Asher Feldman wrote: I think Solr is the right direction for us to go in. Current efforts can pave the way for a complete refresh of WMF's article full text search as well as how our developers approach information retrieval. We just need to make

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-10-18 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denny, What is the preferred feedback channel? I left some comments on the talk page [1]. The talk page is fine. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community

Re: [Wikitech-l] First open tech meeting with video broadcast - 10/18

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks all for joining :) Video recording is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9L4TMRrAzwfeature=player_detailpage#t=585s IRC log is here (a bit odd if you're not watching the video: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-10-18/IRC_log We discussed: * git-flow:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Alolita Sharma
Faidon, FYI - the i18n eng team considered Elastic Search but did not do a deep evaluation on it before selecting Solr. -Alolita On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:22:05AM -0700, Asher Feldman wrote: I think Solr is the

[Wikitech-l] October 25 open tech chat

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks to all who attended the open tech chat today! If you want to continue this format, please sign up / suggest topics for next week here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-10-25 Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That is great to hear. Thanks for tying us together, Asher. For Wikidata, we have not uploaded our Solr extension yet (mostly because we are waiting for the repository to be set up), but we will then upload it soon once it is there. I would be especially interested in sharing schema and config

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Max Semenik
On 19.10.2012, 1:56 Denny wrote: That is great to hear. Thanks for tying us together, Asher. For Wikidata, we have not uploaded our Solr extension yet (mostly because we are waiting for the repository to be set up), but we will then upload it soon once it is there. I would be especially

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread Tim Starling
On 18/10/12 20:04, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Hi! When designing the ContentHandler, I asked around about whether JS and CSS pages should be parsed as wikitext, so categories etc would work. The gist of the responses I got was naw, lets get rid of that. So I did (though PST is still applied -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should JS/CSS pages be parsed?

2012-10-18 Thread MZMcBride
Krinkle wrote: On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: When designing the ContentHandler, I asked around about whether JS and CSS pages should be parsed as wikitext, so categories etc would work. The gist of the responses I got was naw, lets get rid of that. So

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata bug (or semi-bug ;)

2012-10-18 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/18/2012 04:48 PM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: Hello I'm working on running PWB on wikidata and i want to do some edits via API so i did this:

[Wikitech-l] Live broadcast from WP engineering meetup happening now

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
WMF has started doing these outreach-focused meetups regularly: http://www.meetup.com/Wikipedia-Engineering-Meetup/ Tech presentations by WMF. Live stream happening right now, recording later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBmKYWJJJ94 -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live broadcast from WP engineering meetup happening now

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
A bit more background: * The decision to broadcast this meeting via Hangout was made at the last minute, so sorry for the short notice. Accordingly we've also not set up an IRC backchannel for this one (maybe next time, if it makes sense - these are more presentation-focused). * This is the