[Wikitech-l] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, at 12:45, Nkansah Rexford wrote: [...] The Wikipedia app is currently under good development and I think its doing great. We don't need apps. We need mobile websites which work as good as an app does. Oh, the waste of effort. I truly pledge you to work together to make a

[Wikitech-l] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
(Duplicating this mail, as I wasn't subscribed to mobile-l a minute ago.) On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, at 12:45, Nkansah Rexford wrote: [...] The Wikipedia app is currently under good development and I think its doing great. We don't need apps. We need mobile websites which work as good as an app

Re: [Wikitech-l] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread Nkansah Rexford
I agree with you too on that. apps are redundant, unless one has the resources to support. 'Nativity' is great and can unleash some potentials, which are hard to accomplish via browsers. I personally find the mobile site for Wikipedia great enough and I use it for editing instead of the native

Re: [Wikitech-l] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread Nkansah Rexford
I agree with you too on that. apps are redundant, unless one has the resources to support. 'Nativity' is great and can unleash some potentials, which are hard to accomplish via browsers. I personally find the mobile site for Wikipedia great enough and I use it for editing instead of the native

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-16 Thread Chad
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: *Artificially intelligent consumers of Wikimedia content? I would be interested in hearing others' thoughts. Not thinking big enough, although AI is close to the mark. We should work on biological implants. Why use an app?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-16 Thread rupert THURNER
imo this is an intereating question but too far reaching. simpler to understand and keep in mind are minimum display size, resolution, viewer and editing application. with it automatically restricts itself to a couple of operating systems, browsers and native apps. rupert Am 15.08.2014 23:21

Re: [Wikitech-l] Graphs demo

2014-08-16 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 15/08/2014 22:17, Jon Robson a écrit : Rather than having a graph tag containing data which will not make sense to technical users could we imagine something is there any plan to support something like graph title=Visualisation:Stock markets/graph? Separating this into another namespace

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-16 Thread Vito
Z0mg the Illuminati will superprotect chemtrails in our brains!!1!11!! Vito Inviato con AquaMail per Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Il 16 agosto 2014 10:10:50 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: *Artificially

[Wikitech-l] extra docs in beta gadgets tab (was: superprotect; was: 'everyone who tries to speak for 'community' is censored and trying to blame it for own lack of interest')

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
in light of the recent conversation about superprotect and about what community could or should do to get things done specifically i'd like to see links to documentation on gadget extension writing right inside of 'gadgets' and 'beta' tabs somewhere in big fat banner at the bottom of each of

Re: [Wikitech-l] extra docs in beta gadgets tab (was: superprotect; was: 'everyone who tries to speak for 'community' is censored and trying to blame it for own lack of interest')

2014-08-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 August 2014 12:36, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: specifically i'd like to see links to documentation on gadget extension writing right inside of 'gadgets' and 'beta' tabs somewhere in big fat banner at the bottom of each of these tabs 'want to add your gadget/beta feature?

Re: [Wikitech-l] extra docs in beta gadgets tab (was: superprotect; was: 'everyone who tries to speak for 'community' is censored and trying to blame it for own lack of interest')

2014-08-16 Thread Helder .
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:36 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: ... ... structurise the gadgets place for it to become more useable as a directory ?? Akso known as a feature of the (future) Gadgets 3.0: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadgets_3.0

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-16 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 08/16/2014 04:09 AM, Chad wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: *Artificially intelligent consumers of Wikimedia content? I would be interested in hearing others' thoughts. Not thinking big enough, although AI is close to the mark. We should work on

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread Dan Garry
On 16 August 2014 00:29, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: We don't need apps. Read this to find out why you're wrong: http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/wikipedias-new-apps-are-good-for-you-but-theyre-even-better-for-the-developing-world/ Dan -- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager, Mobile

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-16 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: You know what would be great while I'm offline? Offline access to Wikipedia, via a mobile app! http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Software has an Android app. :) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app?

2014-08-16 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2014-08-16, 7:18 AM, Dan Garry wrote: On 16 August 2014 00:29, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: We don't need apps. Read this to find out why you're wrong: http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/wikipedias-new-apps-are-good-for-you-but-theyre-even-better-for-the-developing-world/ Dan Last

[Wikitech-l] HHVM status update

2014-08-16 Thread Ori Livneh
Hello, Here's a quick status update about the rollout of HHVM. * Since migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM exactly one week ago, we've had just one segfault (reported upstream: https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/3438). That's very good. * Giuseppe shared some benchmarks in an e-mail to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, at 00:18, Dan Garry wrote: On 16 August 2014 00:29, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: We don't need apps. Read this to find out why you're wrong:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Why not use in-browser offline storage? http://www.html5rocks.com/en/features/storage One of my favorite articles: http://alistapart.com/article/application-cache-is-a-douchebag -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, at 10:04, Dan Garry wrote: On 16 August 2014 00:29, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: We don't need apps. We need mobile websites which work as good as an app does. Oh, the waste of effort. It appears to me like you have issues with this project that go

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app?

2014-08-16 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2014-08-16, 4:56 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Why not use in-browser offline storage? http://www.html5rocks.com/en/features/storage One of my favorite articles:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
Dmitry Brant wrote: The fact that you don't see the benefits of the native app over the mobile website is simply an indication that we still have a lot of work to do with the apps, which we are excited to do. Partly this is because you don't support my mobile platform. Dmitry Brant wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app?

2014-08-16 Thread svetlana
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Daniel Friesen wrote: On 2014-08-16, 4:56 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Why not use in-browser offline storage? http://www.html5rocks.com/en/features/storage One of my favorite articles: