Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/13/2013 07:57 PM, Chad wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Maybe our rule should be: if an extension is not deployed on Wikimedia sites, then we should basically allow anyone to merge new code in (disallowing self-merges), unless the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making the query opensearch API working fine on a self hosted wikimedia server

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/13/2013 09:20 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: And more importantly https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearchalong There was a typo. The URL is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 12:04 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: That is a really great idea. If there were mediawiki/extensions/(wmf|non-wmf-unimportant|non-wmf-important)/* subdirectories introduced, such classification should encourage extension developers to improve their extensions so they can move up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 12:25 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: I would consider git pull to mysteriously stop working because somebody moved the git repo to be a pretty big disadvantage. Similar to what I said earlier, I don't think anyone needs to request review/merge rights for all non-WMF less important

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2013-02-14 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 07:29 PM, Krinkle wrote: Due to the way Git and Gerrit interact, a revert (unlike a merge) is a two-step process. It considers it to be a separate commit (which it is, of course). So clicking Revert only drafts a commit, it still needs to be merged. This is generally done

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others

2013-02-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/15/2013 06:03 PM, Sîrbu Nicolae-Cezar wrote: Hello, What is Lua? Thanks, Sirbu Nicolae-Cezar It is a programming language used for embedded scripting. Scribunto is a MediaWiki extension that allows you to write templates in Lua (other languages possibly coming later). Done right,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others

2013-02-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/15/2013 03:33 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, We're planning to deploy Lua to a long list of wikis on Monday, February 18, 23:00-01:00 UTC (stretching into Tuesday UTC), including English Wikipedia. Details here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua This is A Big Deal.

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/16/2013 01:50 PM, Basil George wrote: *We have tried to address the privacy issues in obtaining IPs herehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Suggester_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies#Addressing_privacy_concerns. As we

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/16/2013 12:30 PM, Basil George wrote: Please go through the proposal herehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Tracker_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies and do endorse it if you find it interesting. I also think you should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 09:38 PM, Chad wrote: So, I've seen this site tossed around quite a bit recently, and I'm curious: is there any plan to start integrating this jenkins and our other jenkins? More importantly: is there any chance to get the results of these sorts of tests in Gerrit? I think it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 03:43 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 02/22/2013 03:17 PM, maiki wrote: Is this up for discussion, or are we at the point of planning deployment? The latter. I can elucidate a number of scenarios where that is beneficial, but the primary one from my perspective is that of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 06:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: Which coincides to several bots/tools and would generally be quite useful. Quite honestly having bots make edits directly on someones behalf using their account sounds scary. For autonomous bots, yes (they should keep using their own accounts). But

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 11:32 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: What ive always wondered is what happens if your oid provider goes under/otherwise dissapears. I imagine that means you lose your user account all across the internet, which is a scary thought Some sites, like Stack Overflow, allow you to add

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/23/2013 02:46 PM, Casey Brown wrote: Would the fact that Bugzilla uses your e-mail address publicly for everything (rather than a separate account name) cause any problems when switching to OpenID? It should be careful not to publicize people's wiki email (sometimes private and used only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/25/2013 12:53 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: The question: what do we need to test more often to keep RDBMSes happy? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Database_testing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_installer/Test_plan Permissions, searching, schema setup, schema changes, quoting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/25/2013 09:21 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: I am writing this message as we hope this might be of interest, and as we would be quite happy to find people willing to collaborate. Is anybody interested in developing a GUI for it and talk to us about what API we should have for retrieving this

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/20/2013 05:56 PM, Arthur Richards wrote: Once we have MobileFrontend working properly (in a production-like manner) on betalabs, we'll be a big step closer to this - particularly once betalabs is continuously updating to head of master for MobileFrontend. I believe a majority of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 02:29 AM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: - We need a way to poll the database for things like what are all revision_ids of a given page. We could use the API instead, but it's less efficient. Yes, as others have said LAbs should allow that either now or shortly. You should sign

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 02:14 PM, Luke Welling WMF wrote: Specifically, do we use MySQL specific syntax that is more efficient (but breaks elsewhere) or do we attempt to write lowest common denominator SQL that will run more places, but not run as efficiently on our primary target? There's a DB layer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit reports

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/19/2013 02:36 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. I wrote https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Reports over the weekend. Cool! And a creative bot name, as always. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 11:35 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: On Feb 26, 2013 11:25 PM, Matthew Bowker matthewrbowker.w...@me.com wrote: I hate to be that guy, but is it supposed to be password protected? Is there somewhere non-ops people can look for server status, or is http://status.wikimedia.org it? try

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 11:55 PM, Leslie Carr wrote: Thanks - I'll try to get status.wikimedia updated in the morning. Can you try with https now ? I had forgotten to reload apache when pushing out a change to the https config (to allow https without login). You can also use http. HTTPS works.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/27/2013 09:05 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: What's #wikimedia-tech used for now a days? From what I gather it is used for general technical help on wikimedia projects, which sounds kind of in the same direction as what you are suggesting (disclaimer: I don't generally idle/join that channel, so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend

2013-02-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/27/2013 08:29 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Update: I think its fully repeatable - in chrome's incognito mode (Ctrl+Shift+N) - logged in into http en.wiki, tested in ru.wiki and zh.wiki -- worked fine. Switched to non *.wikipedia.org urls - fail. It is working for me on HTTPS in Firefox

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/27/2013 10:29 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: Not sure what you mean - index hints? Yeah, that could be a little tricky, but luckily the Postgres part, at any rate, doesn't have to worry about those (as our planner is smart enough to pick the best index itself ;). I can't think of a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module namespace

2013-02-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/28/2013 01:39 AM, Chad wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any news in this case? How can we get Module translated? Submit a change to Gerrit. Follow the examples set here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51207/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Etherpad Lite labs server going down today at 22:00 UTC (14:00 Pacific) for upgrade

2013-02-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/28/2013 05:35 PM, Faidon Liambotis wrote: I've been in quite important meetings with 15+ attendants where Etherpad Lite has been used exclusively -- so, clearly not for purposes that are testing or staging. So, Labs is the wrong place to have this. Can you coordinate with us

[Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS

2013-03-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 09:47 AM, Isarra Yos wrote: The licensing information is on the page itself, of which the minified js winds up a part. For every file or other object that makes up the page to all contain the licensing information would be pretty unusual. It's like taking a file out of a page

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 12:29 PM, Luke Welling WMF wrote: We should discuss them separately, but this core mediawiki JS is GPL2 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/tree/master/resources I am referring to Isarra's comment: The licensing information is on the page itself, of which the minified js

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 12:08 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: And in the unlikely event that's not good enough, the Foundation may well be able to get a codicil license on the relevant libraries, acknowledging that it needn't include the license text in on-the-wire minified copies. If it does turn out we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 12:27 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com But WMF getting a license doesn't help everybody else who uses MW. Minification is a WMF cluster issue, not a MW software issue, is it not? No, ResourceLoader and the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 02:33 PM, Platonides wrote: On 05/03/13 21:53, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 03/05/2013 12:29 PM, Luke Welling WMF wrote: We should discuss them separately, but this core mediawiki JS is GPL2 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/tree/master/resources I am referring

Re: [Wikitech-l] Query profiling for features developers

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 04:27 PM, Quim Gil wrote: On 03/05/2013 01:44 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Just wanted to share this piece of new documentation with everyone: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Query_profiling_for_features_developers Thank you for improving our documentation. Is there any

Re: [Wikitech-l] QUnit testing in Jenkins

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/04/2013 07:12 PM, Krinkle wrote: Things this will catch are basically everything else. Any runtime error that we can't detect in static analysis but will fail no matter what browser you're in, such as: * misspelled identifiers or syntax errors * issues with ResourceLoader (mw.loader)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS

2013-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 09:27 AM, James Forrester wrote: You can of course always counter-over-ride your global JS/CSS locally - the composite rule would presumably be changed to: 1. file, 2. site 3. skin, *. global-user 4. local-user However, it's trickier to override JS then override CSS. For

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/05/2013 10:50 PM, Krinkle wrote: Considering the global aspect it may be more useful (and flexible) to enforce this from the global script instead of from local preferences, which are rather annoying to maintain imho. if ( dbname == wikidatawiki || .. ) { return; Good point.

[Wikitech-l] Merging jqueryMsg and mediawiki

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Right now, there's two message systems, one in mediawiki.js that basically just handles dollar-sign replacements, and an increasingly sophisticated one in jqueryMsg that tries to emulate the server. To make it more complicated, jqueryMsg monkey-patches mediawiki.js. What do people think about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Query performance - run code faster, merge code faster :-)

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/06/2013 04:36 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: If you want your code merged, you need to keep your database queries efficient. How can you tell if a query is inefficient? How do you write efficient queries, and avoid inefficient ones? We have some resources around: Roan Kattouw's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merging jqueryMsg and mediawiki

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/06/2013 10:13 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: It's already used for parts of the UniversalLanguageSelector extension, to make them as portable as possible. There are no current solid plans to make wider use of it in MediaWiki, but I'd love to see it replace as much of our messages system as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Identifying pages that are slow to render

2013-03-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/07/2013 12:00 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 06/03/13 23:58, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit : There's slow-parse.log, but it's private unless a solution is found for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49678/ https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logs And slow-parse.log is probably going to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/10/2013 05:33 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: * install phpmyadmin sqlite PHPMyAdmin also has major security issues. It isn't allowed on Wikimedia Labs and probably shouldn't be used here. Why does SQLite need to be installed exactly? * DEBUG == that's a big one, setting it up for easy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/10/2013 06:43 PM, Platonides wrote: On 10/03/13 22:39, Chad wrote: Hi, I've been thinking about this for the last week or so because it's becoming incredibly clear to me that core isn't scaling. It's already taking up over 4GB on the Gerrit box, and this is the primary reason core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/10/2013 06:03 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: -We can rewrite history (git-filter-branch) to remove some mistakes that exploded the repo size. Binaries later removed, things accidentally checked into ./extensions, etc. This could potentially greatly reduce object sizes and allow for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/10/2013 07:17 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Matthew, we are talking about a developer's virtual machine that has no network connection to anything except the developer's machine itself, and used purely for development. As you said yourself, it's currently bridged. Doesn't that mean it is in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/10/2013 07:53 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: Json standard is pretty clear that any character can be escaped using \u utf-16 code point or you can just have things be utf8. If clients break because they can't handle that, that is the client's fault. Its not a hard requirement. Just a note, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/11/2013 08:38 AM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Can you add Belarusian projects as well? 'bewiki' = 'uca-be', 'bewikisource' = 'uca-be', 'be_x_oldwiki' = 'uca-be', I was denied while sending a patch for review. Please file a bug if you haven't already. How did you attempt to do a patch?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 01:44 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: One of the things that became apparent is that the Features Teams (eg: E2, E3, Visual Editor) tend to have separate branches that they develop on and only merge to master closer to their deploy windows. There is some variation among them, of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 04:43 PM, Chris McMahon wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In the case of the GettingStarted extension v2, we used a feature branch because it was a user-facing change that took a few weeks to get ready for deployment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 05:07 PM, David Gerard wrote: A few people on rationalwiki.org have been muttering about doing a customised Vector skin. The trouble with Vector is that, as I understand it, it's an odd melange of extension and skin, with functionality that should be in one being in the other,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 06:24 PM, MZMcBride wrote: I believe the Wikimedia Foundation would like to eventually phase-out the Vector skin in favor of the Athena skin (cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Athena). Maybe, but right now there is a lot more discussion about Agora (basically, what

[Wikitech-l] Virtual machines for testing IE

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools is offering VMs for testing various versions of IE. Unlike before, they now even offer VirtualBox and VMWare images, so you don't have to convert the Virtual PC ones. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 09:01 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Provide a tool on the toolserver, or any other server, having a simple link syntax that specifies the language code and the text, e.g. http://toolserver.org/mytool.php?lang=frtext=gouter Good idea, though I agree with Brian a special page would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/13/2013 03:17 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Why CC0 (public domain)? Your example (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr-go%C3%BBter.ogg) is CC-BY, which is not public domain and requires attribution (which I think all Wikimedia projects do for text). I'd say CC-BY-SA or CC-BY would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Virtual machines for testing IE

2013-03-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/13/2013 11:06 AM, Željko Filipin wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Unlike before, they now even offer VirtualBox and VMWare images ievms[1] makes it even simpler to download all images. Cool, thank you. Matt

Re: [Wikitech-l] Virtual machines for testing IE

2013-03-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/14/2013 01:11 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: Aren't these Windows systems bundled into VM images get expired every month or so so you have to re-download huge images again and again? I used to download and run IE tests for custom MW scripts / skins about 1.5 years ago, it was really tiresome

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api] Provisional API extension for CAPTCHA on action=createaccount

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/14/2013 04:01 PM, Brad Jorsch wrote: I've made a first stab at adding support, based on the existing captcha interfaces for login and editing: MediaWiki core: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53793 ConfirmEdit ext: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53794 Side note, there is also an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/14/2013 05:49 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Forvo looks very nice, and if they can do the job, I'm happy that we don't have to. We should try to collaborate with them. Unfortunately, their license (non-commercial) is not free as in freedom, and not acceptable for Wikimedia projects. It's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving a GitHub Pull Request to Gerrit Changeset manually

2013-03-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/15/2013 08:11 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: Hello! So I tried converting https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/pull/1 into a Gerrit changeset (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54097/) , and was mostly successful. It is also a relatively painless process - at least for single commits.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/20/2013 07:43 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Most of these projects seem to be extension (and PHP?) centric. Can we have more diversity? Maybe gadgets and templates are too simple for a GSOC project? A gadget can be quite elaborate. Examples (among many others) include Navigation_popups, Twinkle,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join Mobile department partner team

2013-03-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/18/2013 01:29 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: Greetings all, I'm pleased to announce that the mobile department has two new staff members. Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join as sr. software developers on the mobile partner team. Welcome! It's great to have both of you. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] OAuth critique

2013-03-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/22/2013 12:48 PM, Chris Steipp wrote: I think the caricature of OAuth there should be taken with a grain of salt. The author talks about OAuth, but seems to be referring to OAuth 2 primarily, which is very different from OAuth 1. Also, the author says that the protocol was designed for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/27/2013 10:41 AM, Quim Gil wrote: That wouldn't be a bad project for GSoC as it isn't too large so it means we could actually see some results. Feedback and help about this feature is welcome at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31221 (we might create a bug report

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/27/2013 01:12 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: I'm not sure whether it'd be helpful for this project, but https://github.com/akrennmair/speech-to-server looks interesting. Somebody ported lame (the mp3 encoder) to JavaScript. The demo I linked to records in the browser and streams it to a server

Re: [Wikitech-l] enwiki dump -- retrying dumping database tables on partial failure?

2013-03-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/14/2013 07:24 PM, Neil Harris wrote: Dear Wikimedia ops team, Please do not hit reply when you want to start an unrelated thread. Compose a new email to wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org . That way it won't be grouped with something unrelated. Thanks, Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Taking out the garbage

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 02:02 AM, Chad wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I've now run this on mediawiki/core, and the repo went from 3.0G down to ~620M on disk. I copy+pasted this wrong. This is actually 323M on disk. To give you an idea of the kind of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 03:30 AM, Ori Livneh wrote: That seems wrong. Of the two, MediaWiki.org is clearly the more successful wiki. It is larger by all measures, and draws a wide pool of active contributors. I don't know that it's appropriate to put WMF-only stuff on the MediaWiki site. Of course, I'm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 09:15 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Ryan Lane wrote: mediawiki.org will still exist to document MediaWiki. The domain name itself makes it fairly ill-fit to document our non-MediaWiki software documentation. I follow Wikimedia pretty closely and I have no idea what the distinction

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 11:58 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: Why? SMW is already here, it's documented beautifully, it has good performance, active community and it is NOT developing by Wikimedia Foundation, which is good political decision for the MediaWiki.org portal which aimed to be closer to 3rd party

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 11:26 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 03/04/13 15:48, Yury Katkov a écrit : IMO stuff related to inner projects of Wikimedia foundation should be located on wikitech. Manuals that are related to MediaWiki as a software and its extensions should live on MediaWiki.org. No

Re: [Wikitech-l] Taking out the garbage

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/03/2013 01:55 AM, Chad wrote: Hi all, tl;dr: I've cleaned up the mediawiki/core repo, and performance for fetch/clone operations should be noticeably faster. This also seems to have fixed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46399 (the Included in feature in Gerrit was

[Wikitech-l] Clicktracking being phased out

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
We are in the process of phasing out Clicktracking. An example of this is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46205/ . If you are relying on this for an extension, you should explore other options, such as https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Event_logging . Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-08 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/07/2013 08:20 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: Yuvi, that's great project of you! What do you think about adding not only languages but also technologies? For example if you know Semantic Web technologies (RDF and SPARQL) you can help Semantic MediaWiki. And/or Wikidata. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding messages to cache for wfMessage() at runtime

2013-04-08 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/08/2013 03:21 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: * Figure out which localized string to use for language X, in case there is no message in X. Something like use Russian if Belarusian message is not available. I remember this was present in pywiki framework, and suspect mediawiki has it somewhere.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new project - Wikicards

2013-04-08 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/07/2013 03:24 PM, Gaurav Chawla wrote: - I introduced voting to include the users view into the information/definition that wikIcards will show. That will give a more accepted defn. I agree with Quim (on the bug). Consensus is a better approach for content (voting on such things is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pushing Technical changes to Wikimedia projects

2013-04-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/09/2013 12:18 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: I thought that in order to discuss these design decisions with the community before hand, telling them on their respective village pump is sufficient. Not so it seems. No single channel would find acceptance to communicate with the community.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/06/2013 12:38 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: The idea to invent a new name (Wikimedia) in 2003 was a mistake, as everybody in outreach can testify. With hindsight, it was probably a mistake to make the names so similar. I do think there should be distinct names. Wikimedia has great projects

Re: [Wikitech-l] wav support to Commons (was Re:Advice Needed)

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/10/2013 07:29 PM, Quim Gil wrote: If the Commons community is happy to take this format, fine. But we need to know before the deadline for accepting projects. Or you need to change your strategy. An alternative approach is server-side conversion to a Commons-approved format such as Ogg,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Developer guidance for MobileFrontend extension

2013-04-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/11/2013 06:25 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: Forwarding to wikitech-l, since I'm unsure how many people follow mobile-l https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Writing_a_MobileFrontend_Friendly_ResourceLoader_module mentions a efEnableMobileModules hook. The actual hook is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Clicktracking being phased out

2013-04-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/11/2013 06:54 PM, Lukas Benedix wrote: Can you tell me why this is going to be removed and what insights you got from it? It's being removed in favor of EventLogging, which we believe is technically better and more flexible. For some of the research these extensions make possible, see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/11/2013 11:46 AM, Small M wrote: There's an article for Microsoft Pivot at [1] . Originally it was a standalone application (which is no longer supported), and now is a silverlight control (PivotViewer). HTML5 is usually preferred to plugins, so some made an HTML5 version at [2].

Re: [Wikitech-l] emails in html or in nicely formatted plain text?

2013-04-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/14/2013 02:04 PM, Yury Katkov wrote: Hi everyone! Is there a way to configure email notifications and emails so that the users of the wiki receive emails in html format? Or in text format without wiki-markup. I haven't found any extension that can do that. This is planned for the new

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC and OPW Participation

2013-04-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/16/2013 02:47 PM, Quim Gil wrote: It is your choice. Maybe the mentors of these projects can help you deciding? As far as I'm aware, so far nobody has presented proposals about any of these areas. Note that VisualEditor plugins still requires that you choose a specific plugin you would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Heads up: small new feature in ConfirmEdit

2013-04-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/18/2013 06:21 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Hi all, This is a heads up that we've added a small new feature which hopefully will make things less painful for users across the projects: the ability to refresh the CAPTCHA you're presented without refreshing the entire page. It should work

Re: [Wikitech-l] Heads up: small new feature in ConfirmEdit

2013-04-19 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/19/2013 07:59 AM, Platonides wrote: Although, is Refresh the best term for the UI? It should be pretty clear based on context and the icon. People have seen this before on other sites. However, it's easy to change the text later if needed. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Erik Bernhardson joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2013-04-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/22/2013 07:00 PM, Terry Chay wrote: Hello everyone, It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Erik Bernhardson has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Features Engineer. Welcome! You've got a really interesting background and I look forward to working with you. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Google Summer of Code '13] Project Idea - Inspire Me Button

2013-04-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 12:37 AM, K. Peachey wrote: I believe E:Getting_Started is already working on something like this. It's similar, though Inspire Me seems targeted towards interesting things to *read*, whereas GettingStarted is meant for interesting things to *edit. Also, GettingStarted is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] My GSOC Project Proposal

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 03:23 PM, Vishal Thukral wrote: For now my user page is under development. Please bear with this format You didn't include a link to your user page. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW application period is open!

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 02:36 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Thanks to Lydia we have now a link to a collection of real good GSoC proposals: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Iqk8MTix2CN1pAgqhZqhefKTwiA7P73zQH9N46lvyB0 It's not critical. But of course it would also be nice to have some MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: Mind pointing out what is messy about special pages? If you've got an actual issue with them some of us would probably like to actually fix it. Cause actions were in fact the older interface. Till one or two people attempted to bring them up to

Re: [Wikitech-l] File Licensing Guidelines

2013-04-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/25/2013 09:27 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: personal hat on It certainly doesn't count as source code: The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it hardly describes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mathematical equations GSoC / OPW project (was Re: GSoC and OPW Participation)

2013-04-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/27/2013 01:51 AM, Quim Gil wrote: See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43058 - we know the situation isn't ideal (and not even well documented) but James Forrester (VisualEditor product manager and volunteer mentor) can help pointing to possible directions. A little off

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposals: Wikidata language fallback and conversion ( + one backup: category redirects )

2013-04-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/28/2013 11:15 AM, Lukas Benedix wrote: What exactly is uselang=qqx doing? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q567?uselang=qqx looks like this: http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/oojp8u26nl_(2013-04-28_17.13.54).png

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoc 2013 Proposal - Pronunciation Recording Extension

2013-04-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/28/2013 05:10 PM, Rahul Maliakkal wrote: Hello, Based on the feedback I got from the community, I have made my final proposal. Since only 3 days are left, I urge everyone to kindly reply as early as possible. It looks good. I have a couple small notes: 1. Firefogg only helps in one

Re: [Wikitech-l] OPW Browser Test Automation - Proposal Summary

2013-04-30 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/30/2013 08:25 AM, Indrani Sen wrote: Hello, I am summarizing here my proposal idea for OPW MediaWiki projects. Objective: To test MediaWiki/WikiPedia websites across different browsers. To make sure various website features are supported on different browser platforms. This is

Re: [Wikitech-l] OPW: deadline for submissions is May 1

2013-04-30 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/30/2013 02:22 PM, Jiabao Wu wrote: Hi Quim, Thank you for your reminder. Does this mean that the applicants have one more day, or half a hour? ... Sorry I always feel pretty confused about this... The deadline in 1900 UTC May 1st. See

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: Auto tagging using Semantic analysis Semi-Supervised Learning [was: Project Idea Proposal]

2013-04-30 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/30/2013 10:10 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 18:18 +0530, Dheeraj Joshi wrote: I have submitted my project proposal for GSoc'13. Please have a look and review it. Link : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dheerajjoshi1991 Thanks for your proposal! Thank you for

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC/OPW Proposal Updates: VisualEditor Mathematical Equation Plugin

2013-05-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/02/2013 01:44 PM, praveenp wrote: Hi, Currently math extensions gives poor results on non-latin codes. If this can handle such wide part, this will be awesome. try this: http://ml.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Yukthibhasa.djvu/227action=edit See also

Re: [Wikitech-l] MathJax opt-in for all visitors

2013-05-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/03/2013 01:13 AM, Peter Krautzberger wrote: (I've heard complaints that user registration is not not very accessible). Separate from your main suggestion, what issues are you aware of here? We are aware of the CAPTCHA, of course. We would like to have a version for vision-impaired people

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW mentors README

2013-05-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/27/2013 07:58 PM, Quim Gil wrote: SELECTING CANDIDATES After the deadline we will meet to prioritize GSoC and OPW candidates. When is this meeting? Thanks, Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

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