[Wikitech-l] Re: How to get Top 1000 contributors list?

2022-06-25 Thread John
Depends on what you call the top editors. Is that edit count, articles created, total bytes of content added etc. On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 12:20 PM Roy Smith wrote: > This should do it: > > https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/65641 > > In general, this is an inefficient query because user_editcount

[Wikitech-l] Re: Feature idea: data structure to improve translation capabilities

2021-06-20 Thread John
Off hand isn’t this something that wikidata was setup to handle? On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 12:40 PM Wolter HV wrote: > Hello, > > I have been thinking of a way to organise data in Wiktionary that would > allow > for words to automatically show translations to other languages with much > less >

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to get a list of usercontribs for a given date range?

2020-11-18 Thread John
Thats not how those parameters work. You use either or, not both. You are either going forward or backwards thru the contribs based on which you use. You need to apply some logic on the application layer to filter the results to what you need. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:50 AM Shrinivasan T wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making breaking changes without deprecation?

2020-09-01 Thread John
Honestly if you want a depreciation policy, warnings need to be omitted for at least one 1.x version. Anything less than that is pointless from an end user perspective. We tend to wait for final releases to limit bug exposure. If something breaks, and it's not clear exactly what the cause is,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-08 Thread John Erling Blad
Please stop calling this an “AI” system, it is not. It is statistical learning. This is probably not going to make me popular… In some jurisdictions you will need a permit to create, manage, and store biometric identifiers, no matter if the biometric identifier is for a known person or not. If

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-06 Thread John Erling Blad
users (adversary and postulated sock) are the same because they have edited the same page. It is quite unlikely a user will edit the same page with a sock puppet, when it is known that such a system is activated. On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:49 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > Nice idea! First time I wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-06 Thread John Erling Blad
Nice idea! First time I wrote about this being possible was back in 2008-ish. The problem is quite trivial, you use some observable feature to fingerprint an adversary. The adversary can then game the system if the observable feature can be somehow changed or modified. To avoid this the

[Wikitech-l] T65602

2020-05-03 Thread John
This ticket has been sitting around for just over 6 years now, any chance it can get some love? Getting this to use an existing generator such as the action=parse=Sandbox=externallinks shouldnt be too difficult hopefully. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

[Wikitech-l] Render with a slow process

2020-04-25 Thread John Erling Blad
Slow process, fast rendering Imagine someone edits a page, and that editing hits a very slow tag-function of some kind. You want to respond fast with something readable, some kind of temporary page until the slow process has finished. Do you chose to reuse what you had from the last revision, if

[Wikitech-l] Security Team collaboration

2020-01-28 Thread John Bennett
] and Gerrit sections of our team handbook [13]. As a team we have agreed that all changesets we interact on need a linked task with the #security-team tag. security@ will soon be managed as a Google group collaborative inbox [14] as outlined in T243446. Thanks John [1] Security Services https

Re: [Wikitech-l] New year / Nova godina

2019-12-31 Thread John Shepherd
Wishing the same to you! :) On 2019-12-31 at 3:31 PM, Zoran Dori wrote: > Happy new year to everyone!! / Srećna Nova godina svima!! > > Best wishes! / Sve najbolje! > > Zoran. > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >

[Wikitech-l] URL parameter fetching (mediawiki)

2019-10-01 Thread John Shepherd
Is there a “special” way in mediawiki to get parameters passed by URL or do you just use the conventional PHP way ($_GET)? I am trying to check if “Special:CreateAccount?reason=“ is set/has a value (and what that value is). Thank you for your assistance, trying to be convention compliant.

Re: [Wikitech-l] 503 Backend fetch failed

2019-10-01 Thread John
I’ve seen it a number of times often just redoing the request makes it go away On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:06 AM Bináris wrote: > Hi folks, > I got this message while running a bot: > Result: 503 Backend fetch failed > > I know HTTP 503 message, but I never got it during botwork. I restarted it >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Neural nets, and Lua?

2019-09-26 Thread John Erling Blad
(FSM). On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:03 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > A project that could be really interesting is to make a Lua interface for > some of the new neural nets, especially based on the Tsetlin-engine. Sounds > nifty, but it is nothing more than a slight reformulation

[Wikitech-l] Neural nets, and Lua?

2019-09-26 Thread John Erling Blad
, and mapping to and from linear scaling adds complexity. But running neural nets inside a PHP-based web server… I doubt we would hit the 10 sec limit for a Lua module even if we added several such networks. Ok, to much coffee today… John ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] LoginSignupSpecialPage.php form won’t let me add fields

2019-09-21 Thread John Shepherd
Forgot to add that this is a brand new install without any extensions. On 2019-09-21 at 10:00 AM, John Shepherd wrote: > Hello all, > > On my own mediawiki install, I am trying to add another checkbox field to the > Special:CreateAccount page. I have found the code responsible

[Wikitech-l] LoginSignupSpecialPage.php form won’t let me add fields

2019-09-21 Thread John Shepherd
Hello all, On my own mediawiki install, I am trying to add another checkbox field to the Special:CreateAccount page. I have found the code responsible for the form, but for some reason the checkbox does not show up. As a test, I then went and tried copying and pasting one of the existing text

Re: [Wikitech-l] content_models table only contains wikitext content model on fresh MW 1.32.3 install

2019-09-19 Thread John
Why don’t you use the existing import/export tools? On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:18 AM Tom Schulze < t.schu...@energypedia-consult.com> wrote: > > > There have been reports of similar problems with the slots table. Please > add > > your experience to the ticket here: > > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cryptographic puzzles as mitigation for DDoS

2019-09-07 Thread John Erling Blad
: > I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that the attacker was just > flooding the network with traffic? > > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019, 12:25 John Erling Blad, wrote: > > > There are several papers about how to stop DDoS by using cryptographic > > puzzles.[1] The core

[Wikitech-l] Cryptographic puzzles as mitigation for DDoS

2019-09-07 Thread John Erling Blad
There are several papers about how to stop DDoS by using cryptographic puzzles.[1] The core idea is to give the abuser some algorithmic work he has to solve, thereby forcing him to waste processing power, and then to slow him down to a manageable level.[2] That only work if you are the target, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Abusefilter and Content Translator

2019-04-28 Thread John Erling Blad
It is either the limit for unedited automatic translations that is set way to high, or an admin that blames Google for whatever translated text (s)he find. The later is not uncommon in Norwegian, even if the admins are told several times ContentTranslation does not use Google for Norwegian

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-24 Thread John Erling Blad
Sorry, but this is not valid. I can't leave this uncommented. Assume the article is right, then all metrics would be bad. Thus we can't find any example that contradicts the statement in the article. If we pick coverage of automated tests as a metric, then _more_ test coverage would be bad given

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-24 Thread John Erling Blad
It is a strange discussion, especially as it is now about how some technical debts are not _real_ technical debts. You have some code, and you change that code, and breakage emerge both now and for future projects. That creates a technical debt. Some of it has a more pronounced short time effect

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread John Erling Blad
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:53 PM bawolff wrote: > > Technical debt is by definition "ickyness felt by devs". It is a thing that > can be worked on. It is not the only thing to be worked on, nor should it > be, but it is one aspect of the system to be worked on. If its ignored it > makes it really

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread John Erling Blad
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:52 PM bawolff wrote: > > First of all, I want to say that I wholeheartedly agree with everything tgr > wrote. > > Regarding Pine's question on technical debt. > > Technical debt is basically a fancy way of saying something is "icky". It > is an inherently subjective

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread John Erling Blad
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 2:38 PM C. Scott Ananian wrote: > > A secondary issue is that too much wiki dev is done by WMF/WMFDE employees > (IMO); I don't think the current percentages lead to an overall healthy > open source community. But (again in my view) the first step to nurturing > and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread John Erling Blad
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:23 AM Strainu wrote: > > > A large backlog by itself is not alarming. A growing one for > > components deployed to WMF sites is. It indicates insufficient > > attention is given to ongoing maintenance of projects after they are > > no longer "actively developed", which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit outage

2019-03-17 Thread John Bennett
was discovered and additional security controls prevented malicious activities from being executed using the compromised staff account. We will continue to monitor the situation and will provide updates on this list and on the Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218472. Thanks John On Sat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit outage

2019-03-16 Thread John Bennett
appropriate updates to the phabricator task ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218472 ) . Thanks On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:26 AM John Bennett wrote: > Hello, > > > On 16 March 2019, Wikimedia Foundation staff observed suspicious activity > associated with Gerrit and as a precaut

[Wikitech-l] Gerrit outage

2019-03-16 Thread John Bennett
Hello, On 16 March 2019, Wikimedia Foundation staff observed suspicious activity associated with Gerrit and as a precautionary step has taken Gerrit offline pending investigation. The Wikimedia Foundation's Security, Site Reliability Engineering and Release Engineering teams are investigating

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-14 Thread John Erling Blad
are only changed when the bugs are closed for whatever reason, which could take years. Creating additional manual interventions does not work, the process must be simpler and more efficient. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:23 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 00:29 +0100, John Erlin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-14 Thread John Erling Blad
Sorry, but I try to point out that the process is broken and give a few examples on how to fix the process. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:20 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-03-14 at 12:35 +0100, John Erling Blad wrote: > > Blame games does not fix faulty processes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-14 Thread John Erling Blad
oying bugs. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyOHJ4GR4iU from 32:20 On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:49 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 21:01 +0100, John Erling Blad wrote: > > This is like an enormous sinkhole, with people standing on the edge, > > warning abou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-13 Thread John Erling Blad
rs about the growing sinkhole. But nobody does anything about the sinkhole itself. I doubt this will be fixed. John ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-12 Thread John Erling Blad
What frustrates me the most are - bugs found by the editor community, that has obvious simple fixes, which isn't acted upon for several years - new features that isn't fully tested, and you have to answer in the community about stuff you rather want to throw out - new features and changes that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-12 Thread John Erling Blad
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > > I get an impression from this thread that the problem is not really the > size of the backlog, but rather certain individual tasks that sit in > said backlog rather than being worked on, and which according to John &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-12 Thread John Erling Blad
charge money > for? > Are our customers successfully subsidizing our free (as in beer) software? > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:33 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > > 2- Everything is open-source and as non-profit, there's always resource > > > constra

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
> 2- Everything is open-source and as non-profit, there's always resource > constraint. If it's really important to you, feel free to make a patch and > the team would be always more than happy to review. Wikipedia is the core product, and the users are the primary customers. When a group of core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
It seems like some projects simply put everything coming from external sources into deep freezer or add "need volunteer". If they respond at all. In some cases it could be that the projects are defunc. On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Stas Malyshev wrote: > > Hi! > > > In my experience WMF teams

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-08 Thread John Erling Blad
> Also should be on the list: Sometimes bugs have a known fix that isn't > being rolled out, in favour of a larger more fundamental restructuring > (demanding even more resources). Yes, I've seen a lot of cookie licking. It makes it hard to solve even simple bugs.

[Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-08 Thread John Erling Blad
The backlog for bugs are pretty large (that is an understatement), even for bugs with know fixes and available patches. Is there any real plan to start fixing them? Shall I keep telling the community the bugs are "tracked"? /jeblad ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread John Erling Blad
It is extremely easy to detect a bot unless the bot operator chose to make it hard. Just make a model for how the user interacts with the input devices, and do anomaly detection. That imply use of Javascript though, but users not using JS are either very dubious or quite well-known. There are

Re: [Wikitech-l] The mw.ext construct in lua modules

2019-02-05 Thread John Erling Blad
Those that break the naming scheme *somehow* is 7 extensions (ArticlePlaceholder (mixed case), DynamicPageListEngine (not extension name), JsonConfig (not extension name), LinkedWiki (not ext structure), SemanticScribunto (not extension name), Wikibase Client (not ext structure), ZeroPortal (not

Re: [Wikitech-l] The mw.ext construct in lua modules

2019-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
There are several extensions that diverge on the naming scheme. Some of them even being referenced as using the scheme, while not providing lua libs at all. It is a bit weird. On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:09 PM Kunal Mehta wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > On

Re: [Wikitech-l] The mw.ext construct in lua modules

2019-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
Half a century? 50 years? You have been working for WMDE since 2014. Perhaps it would be an idea to discuss the naming scheme instead of doing questionable call to authority? The interesting point is _what_ to gain by adding unrelated character sequences to names. If some character sequence don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] The mw.ext construct in lua modules

2019-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
It is a description of how it should be done, which is not according to the current page. Yes it is a call for feedback if I must spell it out. On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:33 AM Thiemo Kreuz wrote: > > Is there a question assigned with this long email? Is this a call for > feedback? > > Kind

[Wikitech-l] The mw.ext construct in lua modules

2019-01-24 Thread John Erling Blad
At the Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual, at several places,[1] it is pointed out that the lua-libs should use the form 'mw.ext.NAME'. This creates visual noise in the code. Any lib included should have a extension page, thus it has already been given an unique name. In addition, only the

[Wikitech-l] Security Notification: Malware creating fake Wikipedia donation banner

2019-01-24 Thread John Bennett
at Bleepingcomputer.com. [0] [0] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-movie-file-infects-pc-to-steal-cryptocurrency-poison-google-results/ Thanks, John Bennett ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-18 Thread John Erling Blad
Tried a couple of times to rewrite this, but it grows out of bound anyhow. Seems like it has its own life. There is a book from 2000 by Robert Dale and Ehud Reiter; Building natural language generation systems ISBN 978-0-521-02451-8 Wikibase items can be rebuilt as Plans from the type statement

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread John Erling Blad
uch harder, especially if the text is supposed to be readable. Jumbling sentences together as is commonly done by various botscripts does not work very well, or rather, it does not work at all. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:44 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > > Using an abstract language as an basis for t

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread John Erling Blad
Using an abstract language as an basis for translations have been tried before, and is almost as hard as translating between two common languages. There are two really hard problems, it is the implied references and the cultural context. An artificial language can get rid of the implied

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help: setting a property on page save?

2018-12-04 Thread John
What is your end goal? On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:52 PM FreedomFighterSparrow < freedomfighterspar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm trying to solve the following situation: I need to know, for each > article, > the last time it was updated by an actual human. MediaWiki keeps track of > the > last update

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-05 Thread John Erling Blad
> dga...@wikimedia.org > ‬‏>:‬ > > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 23:29, John Erling Blad wrote: > > > > > Usually it comes from user errors while using VE. This kind of errors > are > > > quite common, and I asked (several years ago) whether it could be fixed >

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-05 Thread John Erling Blad
T129778 On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 3:59 PM Dan Garry wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 23:29, John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Usually it comes from user errors while using VE. This kind of errors are > > quite common, and I asked (several years ago) whether it could be fixed > in

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Wikipedia#Anwendung_von__in_Bildunterschriften > > Today there are also more than one user indefinite blocked, which only > removed https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Entgr%C3%A4ten40 > > Am Fr., 5. Okt. 2018 um 00:29 Uhr schrieb John Erling Blad < > jeb...@gmail.com > >:

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread John Erling Blad
We have the same in Norwegian, but linking on part of a composite is almost always wrong. Either you link on the whole composite or no part of the composite. If you link on a part of a composite, then in nearly all cases I have seen the link is placed on the wrong term. Some examples on what

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-02 Thread John Erling Blad
*very much agree with both Amir and Brion* I've seen the same thing; something is reported as a more or less general issue, it is then picked up as a task, it is further discussed in a specific context, then closed because it does not fit the given context. But the new context wasn't part of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Translations on hold until further notice

2018-09-27 Thread John Bennett
://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/blog/view/13/) including additional details as appropriate. Thank you for your patience and understanding while we work to better protect the community. John Bennett Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] Semantic annotation of red links on Wikipedia

2018-09-25 Thread John Erling Blad
This can be done with the special page "AboutTopic" with some additional logic. It has been discussed at a few projects, but the necessary logic isn't available. That means the redlink must be created with the q-id, and there is no well-defined process on how to clean it up afterwards. At nnwiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread John
Alex, honestly as a passive observer I have seen CoC issues used as a sledge hammer to force ideas thru and to shut down open civil discussions and disagreements. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:29 AM Alex Monk wrote: > Are you trying to ban people discussing CoC committee decisions publicly? > Not

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread John
Why shouldn’t users be able to A) find out why their account was disabled? (Original email list in clutter) 2) something as simple as WTF isn’t a reasonable bannable offense. It wasn’t calling someone an F. If the CoC Committee is afraid of having their actions brought to life in a public

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-08 Thread John
> Where? So far it's been a few individuals. Here, here. Can you please cite the clear community decision you are referencing? Just because a few users took unilaterally actions and most people didn't object, that isn't consensus. ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-07 Thread John
argument against CoCs as a whole. If you're so against > the md file, or against the CoC as a whole, github and/or gitlab are fine > places to host a repository. > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:39 PM, John wrote: > > > Honestly I find forcing documentation into repos to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-07 Thread John
Honestly I find forcing documentation into repos to be abrasive, and overstepping the bounds of the CoC.I also find the behavior of those pushing such an approach to be hostile and overly aggressive. Why do you need to force a copy of the CoC into every repo? Why not keep it in a central location?

[Wikitech-l] Recent Account hijacking activities

2018-05-16 Thread John Bennett
tified. If you have any questions, please contact the Trust and Safety team (ca{{@}}wikimedia.org <http://wikimedia.org>). John BennettDirector of Security, Wikimedia Foundation* ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Map internationalization launched everywhere, AND embedded maps now live on 276 Wikipedias

2018-05-09 Thread John D.
test From: Joe Matazzoni Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 5:32 PM To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] Map internationalization launched everywhere,AND embedded maps now live on 276 Wikipedias As of today, interactive (Kartographer) maps no longer display in the language of

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOUI v0.27.0 release (breaking change)

2018-05-09 Thread John D.
test From: Volker E. Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 2:58 PM To: Wikimedia developers Cc: Design.Public Subject: [Wikitech-l] OOUI v0.27.0 release (breaking change) Hello everyone, We've released OOUI version 0.27.0 last evening. It will be in MediaWiki core from 1.32.0-wmf.3, which will be

[Wikitech-l] test

2018-04-25 Thread John D.
test ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] HELP info box's

2018-04-22 Thread John D.
data from wikidata will stretch a info box how do you drop down lines not because the text is not in the info box. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incoming and outgoing links enquiry

2018-03-18 Thread John
I would second the recommendation of using the dumps for such a large graphing project. If it's more than a couple hundred pages the API/database queries can get bulky On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:07 PM Brian Wolff wrote: > Hi, > > You can run longer queries by getting access to

[Wikitech-l] Persian Wikimedia cryptocurrency mining incident

2018-03-14 Thread John Bennett
ttp://wikimedia.org/>). Apologies for only posting in English, translating and reposting in Fārsi would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,John Bennett* ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikistats 2.0 - Now with Maps!

2018-02-26 Thread John Erling Blad
I guess this is pretty obvious, but when you create numbers for something generated by an actor (as something that makes the activation) within that area, those numbers should be normalized against the number of actors. There are a whole lot of articles being read in Norwegian from China, does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unknown pages in watchlist

2018-01-29 Thread John
Check the move logs On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:19 AM יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Hello. I have a watching issue. Writing here and not in phabricator, > because it's absolutely non reproduceable. So if somebody is interested - > here are the details. > I found now an article in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Potential 1 day hackathon in London on February 3

2018-01-17 Thread John Lubbock
w.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and

[Wikitech-l] Potential 1 day hackathon in London on February 3

2018-01-17 Thread John Lubbock
might need travel expenses to get there) for that day. Here's the darvoz.org site. John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we drop revision hashes (rev_sha1)?

2017-12-06 Thread John Erling Blad
What is the current state, will some kind of digest be retained? On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Daniel Kinzler < > daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de > > wrote: > > > Yes, we could put it into a separate table. But that

[Wikitech-l] Thoughts for handy features

2017-11-16 Thread John Elliot V
ot;estimated reading time" could be provided. Along with maybe a word count, character count, etc. Since I'm here, quick thanks to the MediaWiki community for creating such wonderful wiki software! Regards, John Elliot V -- E: j...@jj5.net P: +61 4 35

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Tech talk: Selenium tests in Node.js

2017-10-30 Thread John
Željko, Im tempted to throw a {{trout}} at you. Please never repeat what you did in this post and talk via emoji. We do not write in hieroglyphics. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Rachel Farrand wrote: > A reminder with streaming details for Tuesday's tech talk: > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we drop revision hashes (rev_sha1)?

2017-09-19 Thread John Erling Blad
There are two important use cases; one where you want to identify previous reverts, and one where you want to identify close matches. There are other ways to do the first than to use a digest, but the digest opens up for alternate client side algorithms. The last would typically be done by some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

2017-07-25 Thread John
Bináris the root issue is that mediawiki doesnt see Null edits as an edit, it sees them more as a purge with forcelinkupdate=True. The logs that contain that information are not in mediawiki, but rather the webserver logs. Exposing those logs is a privacy issue. Second if there are performance

Re: [Wikitech-l] Get Wikipedia Page Titles using API looks Endless

2017-05-07 Thread John
nged page_namespace = 0 to page_namespace = 14, On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Abdulfattah Safa <fattah.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > hello John, > Thanks for your effort. Actually I need official dumps as I need to use > them in my thesis. > Could you please point me how did you get these o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Get Wikipedia Page Titles using API looks Endless

2017-05-06 Thread John
Here you go ns_0.7z <http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/reports/ns_0.7z> ns_14.7z <http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/reports/ns_14.7z> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 5:27 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Give me a few minutes I can get you a database

Re: [Wikitech-l] Get Wikipedia Page Titles using API looks Endless

2017-05-06 Thread John
Give me a few minutes I can get you a database dump of what you need. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Abdulfattah Safa wrote: > 1. I'm usng max as a limit parameter > 2. I'm not sure if the dumps have the data I need. I need to get the titles > for all Articles (name

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

2017-04-21 Thread John
ideally that span should be added by {{non-free media}} which is the meta template for identifying non-free media. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman < d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > It might have been on purpose that there was no licensetpl_nonfree. The > reason being,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

2017-04-21 Thread John
Not sure how that metadata is being populated but on enwiki you should look for either Template:Non-free media or Category:All non-free media On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fako

[Wikitech-l] CORS Error in VisualEditor/Parsoid/RESTBase Setup

2017-03-04 Thread John P. New
er. Would you like to retry?" I should point out that I am not the only one experiencing this situation. See https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Tm2qsg4ywsykmahr What can we do to solve the CORS issue? John ___ Wikitech-l mailing l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating Parsoid & RESTbase into a secure MediaWiki Install

2017-02-22 Thread John P. New
and $wgVisualEditorFullRestbaseURL to point to https://mw.mydomain.com:7232/mywikidomain.com/v1/page/html/ and https://mw.mydomain.com:7232/mywikidomain.com/, respectively. Thanks for the help. John On February 22, 2017 10:14:54 AM John P. New wrote: > Thanks to a couple of members of this lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating Parsoid & RESTbase into a secure MediaWiki Install

2017-02-22 Thread John P. New
, 2017 04:57:30 PM Alex Monk wrote: > You can get a trusted cert for your home server. Look into LetsEncrypt. > > On 22 Feb 2017 3:15 pm, "John P. New" <wikit...@hazelden.ca> wrote: > > > Thanks to a couple of members of this list I was able to get Visual Editor &

[Wikitech-l] Integrating Parsoid & RESTbase into a secure MediaWiki Install

2017-02-22 Thread John P. New
browser complaints as the current mixed-content does. My question is, what is the likelihood of getting this configuration to work under SSL? John ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor discards changes made in Wikitext editor

2017-02-21 Thread John P. New
Alex and James, Thanks for the guidance. I've set up the RESTbase server and it's working well: wikitext editor changes are reflected in VE when switching (and vice versa). John On February 20, 2017 09:13:58 PM Alex Monk wrote: > One of the things that should probably be noted is that, i

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor discards changes made in Wikitext editor

2017-02-20 Thread John P. New
On February 20, 2017 08:34:35 PM James Forrester wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 at 10:42 John P. New <wikit...@hazelden.ca> wrote: > > > I've set up MW 1.28 with VE/parsoid and everything is working well > > > > However, when I edit in (any) wikitext editor and

[Wikitech-l] VisualEditor discards changes made in Wikitext editor

2017-02-20 Thread John P. New
I've set up MW 1.28 with VE/parsoid and everything is working well However, when I edit in (any) wikitext editor and try to switch to VE, I am presented with a dialog with only 2 choices: "Cancel" or "Discard my changes and switch". Diving into the code I found I could change

Re: [Wikitech-l] Creating a broken link

2017-01-25 Thread John
Does the page exist already? On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:23 AM Victor Porton wrote: > How to create a broken ("edit", "red") link to a page? > > That is I want to generate a HTML code which displays a link, clicking > which leads to the editor (for a page). The link should be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discussion Platform

2016-12-10 Thread John
t; Public logging isn't very accessible. When you join in a chat after being > disconnected (like IRC does all the time), you'd like to look through the > previous discussions easily. > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > An is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discussion Platform

2016-12-10 Thread John
An issue was raised about only seeing IRC messages while logged in, however the WMF does publicly log several of their channels, so that is a moot point ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] Wikipedia page IDs

2016-12-03 Thread John
It looks like the page was deleted/restored thus giving it a new page ID. Originally when pages where deleted the page_id was not kept, which caused a new page_id to be issued when it was restored. This phenomenon has since been fixed, and should no longer happen. On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 8:47 AM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in 2016 just started and we need your help!

2016-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
> > Thank you again for giving young contributors the opportunity to learn > about and work on all aspects of Free & Open Source Software projects! > > Cheers, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler > http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > ____

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
related to 2FA. > > If you need to disable it, you can do it yourself (visit Preferences, click > "Disable two-factor authentication" and follow the steps). I switch devices regularly, and switch browsers also. Desktop session continues without a hitch, mostly. Mobile devices are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
WMF services, for >> example, between the wikis and Gerrit. >> >> (Cross-posted to wikitech-l and wikimedia-l, please copy/link >> elsewhere as appropriate.) >> >> -- Tim Starling >> >> >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Engaging student devs with another outreach event like GSoC, GCI

2016-11-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
on the second task. https://github.com/orgs/BesutKode/teams/peserta-universitas-task-2 All of the program materials will be public and CC-BY after the competition is over, as is required by all Ford grants. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikitech-l mailing

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