Mark Nash wrote:
Depends on your plan. If you ever want to sell your business or be bought
out by your partner(s), then there is less value with leasing CPE. But
there are many other ways of looking at it, too.
Why do you think that? Generally speaking, businesses that use leasing
tend to
I used to think that leasing was a bad thing, that I had to own everything
outright.. Then I decided that I was going to have this business longer
than3-6 years so leasing items for 3 years and then buying them for a buck
was to my advantage.
I get to expand my coverage and use the money that I
Thanks Anthony. The consensus seems to be nice high numbers. I should
have added to ask what approximate range are you comfortable adding
subscribers? (I know the answer depends on terrain.)
Patrick
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I agree with you to a point
But, as a small company, 2 man shop with a casual laborer on an as
needed basis, we find that considering our 'overhead', (bandwidth,
labor, truck, support, rent, utility's and such) as a fixed cost of
doing business much simpler to keep track of.
So I figure
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last i knew pac was getting a place in Chicago. Maybe they are shipping
now. Did you check?
Brian
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Anyone on the East Coast, or Central US, stock the PacWireless 29db
Dual Pol parabolics?
Looking for quicker ship times, at lower ship costs, as I'm east coast.
Please
In order to answer what ROI one is looking for, one must first define what
costs need to be recouped.
In higher end markets, the aquisition cots are much higher than that of the
equipment itself.
The majority of the customer revenue the first year may go to get the ROI on
Aquisition costs.
Anyone on the East Coast, or Central US, stock the PacWireless 29db Dual Pol
parabolics?
Looking for quicker ship times, at lower ship costs, as I'm east coast.
Please contact me offlist.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Earlier I brook out our cost per customer. Our Billing, Admin, and
support costs are using over half of our cash flow. Is this comparable
for you and how do or plan to reduce those costs?
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Anthony Will
Broadband Corp.
http://www.broadband-mn.com
60-70 on a 3mb aggregate. 120 or so on 7mb. This is with a majority of
1mb plans. So about a 20 to 1 ratio. That seems to be a sweet spot for
our system.
Anthony Will
Broadband Corp.
http://www.broadband-mn.com
Patrick Leary wrote:
I'd appreciate any feedback you folks are willing to
Depends on your plan. If you ever want to sell your business or be bought
out by your partner(s), then there is less value with leasing CPE. But
there are many other ways of looking at it, too.
Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
I'd appreciate any feedback you folks are willing to provide. I suspect
the numbers are substantially lower than 5 GHz APs due to the smaller
system capacity, but I'd rather not assume.
Regards,
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
Wow, I sure wish I could average more than $37 per sub!
marlon
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What basic ROI do you target?
On another list I answered 6
In my mind, it all has to be counted. At the end of the day each customer
has a fixed cost. Breakeven happens when any revenue ABOVE those fixed
costs has paid back any customer acquisition costs.
I don't think it's honest to say that one breaks even when counting 100% of
the monthly
The info in this post about being paid for this service is important to us
smaller WISPs. This means that we CAN invest some small amount in
equipment, just as we would deploy an AP to gain customers. Then, over
time, we charge for the intercepts we receive and eventually can recover the
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Frank Muto wrote:
I have a question though you may or may be able to answer it. In
point 1, you said you gave the LEA information on how to word their
subpoena? Was this knowledge based on an attorneys consult? I'll
assume it may have been unless you are an attorney
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
1. The ISP will know a actual intercept subpoena is coming before
they receive it.
Actually, in a couple of cases, this was true. In the others, the
subpoena came without any notice.
3. The LEA would like the ISP to have all the CALEA I's
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I have a question though you may or may be able to answer it. In point 1,
you said you
I think it's a combination of both ways of looking at things. For
projections planning, you MUST figure out your cost per sub and watch
that. That said, hooking up a sub next week doesn't cost you ANYTHING more
for tech support or bandwidth or whatever until you have to pay for more of
those.
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Larry Yunker wrote:
If I am not mistaken, when you are being asked to provide
information in a legal matter in which you are not a named-party in
the legal action, you are being placed in the position of a
witness.
Exactly. This is where the duty that I mentioned in my
According to the FBI, they have no interest in receiving real-time streamed
data, despite the requirement in the standard. They want capture and
send/retrieve.
Our understanding is that the FBI will challenge that part of the standard
once the WISPA Standard is ratified. That will give them
I have a question though you may or may be able to answer it. In point 1, you said you gave the LEA information on how to
word their subpoena? Was this knowledge based on an attorneys consult? I'll assume it may have been unless you are an
attorney yourself.
Secondly, why would an attorney or
Thanks for posting this Butch! It illustrates a number of things that I've
believed from early on:
1. The ISP will know a actual intercept subpoena is coming before they
receive it.
2. The LEA staff requesting the subpoena are generally less technically
savvy than most service providers.
3.
I just wanted to make a brief post relating a few experiences
relating to the CALEA scare that was recently the talk of the
town (so to speak). I should preface this post with a bit of
information that will give some insight into how common (or not) law
enforcement will or will not use CALEA
Just to stay in line with the thought. at $25 per month that would mean
two new customers a month or the profits of 25 of my customers to pay
for that. Now if i say had 200 customers that would be 1/8 of my
profits
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I have been trying to get my partner to agree to the dues since the
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Matt, I think that because that's how I think of things, to answer your
question. As I said there are other ways of looking at business value. I
PREFER peace of mind knowing that my debt is at a minimum. Slower growth is
the cost to this, and for some people that's just fine.
That's why I
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On another list I answered 6 - 9 months with $100 install fee and we
retain ownership. In reality we lease to own all equipment on 36 month
leases. On average $12 per month per radio goes to this lease. This is
for our $40 or $200 plan it does not mater. 92% of our plans are sold
at the
Wisp Router in Kansas has them.
www.wisp-router.com
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:47 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless Dual Pol
Anyone on the East Coast, or Central US,
That's an interesting way of calculating the ROI.
You could also take out fixed costs from your calculations and only add in
those (variable) costs that relate directly to the new sub. If you aren't
adding staff or getting a bigger office, you wouldn't need to factor those
costs into the
3 months.
Patrick Leary wrote:
I am curious about how divergent the responses may be. In your answer,
include just the cost of the truck roll and CPE measured against any
set-up and service initiation fees charged with the monthly subscription
fee.
Years ago, it was not uncommon for WISPs to
It looks like the FCC making us be CALEA compliant was a total waste
of time effort (on both parties sides) and only made a atmosphere of
fear. It also sounds like while they filed for information that has
classically been available pre-calea, has anyone had to comply with
the real time streaming
Hi,
We lease all of our CPE, therefore our ROI is 0 months. The installation
fee ($99) covers the truck roll for the installation, so starting from
day one I am making profit on that customer. We have been doing it this
way for over 4 years now.
Travis
Microserv
Patrick Leary wrote:
I am
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