[WISPA] DHCP Option 82

2008-01-11 Thread Jake VanDewater
Has anyone implemented the DHCP Option 82 on their networks? From what I have read, this would be great for forcing network addressable bridges to handout a specified IP address and/or range of IPs. _ Make distant family not so

[WISPA] Vent pipe installs?

2008-01-11 Thread Dave Brenton
Gang, I'm FINALLY entering shake-down mode here and now I've thinking more about stuff that I've not considered. Have many of you mounted your CPE gear to customers roof-top vent pipes? If so are there any down-sides to doing so? It seems like a pretty stable mount to me but if there's a good

Re: [WISPA] Vent pipe installs?

2008-01-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
Depends what kind of vent pipe, I would not recommend mounting to PVC pipes with any type of extension of additional pipe. We tried once and customer complained when it got windy it would make noise through the entire home. However, we successfully mount to Cast Iron vent pipes often with no

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread John Scrivner
There are a number of WiMAX 3.5 GHz solutions that will tune to 3.65 just fine. I doubt that we would need to force the forum to issue a new profile for a frequency band that existing profiles already cover. As far as I am concerned WiMAX in 3.65 GHz is here in all respects and is not just

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Clint Ricker
Tom, I'd agree. I'm in no way advocating marketing that is deceptive in terms of deliverables. My main point is more that communications in marketing often involves using buzzwords that coopt something someone knows for describing your product. Even if that is, on a technical level, incorrect,

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
First, two thumbs up for Matt. 1) He's leading the way to expand with new technologies. 2) He's clever enough to use maximize how he uses of Press Releases. With that said, in response to Clint, I had mixed feelings regarding the release. I didn't see a problem listing Wimax in the press

Re: [WISPA] Vent pipe installs?

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
We do it all the time with rootennas. Even extend the pipe up with a coupling and glue. Dave Brenton wrote: Gang, I'm FINALLY entering shake-down mode here and now I've thinking more about stuff that I've not considered. Have many of you mounted your CPE gear to customers roof-top vent

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread John Scrivner
I guess I am a bit perplexed by this premise. Why would people in urban areas pay for low bandwidth wireless broadband options? What problem does this platform solve under that scenario? Scriv Mike Hammett wrote: I would like to note that Redline echoed my thoughts on 3.65 GHz. It is not

Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone?

2008-01-11 Thread Jake VanDewater
We purchased a NetEqualizer last year, and we weren't impressed. It did not perform well compared to the Emerging Technologies box we use. The rate limits were not effectively enforced. -Jake Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:16:46 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Vent pipe installs?

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Preferred vendor for vent pipe mounts? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vent pipe

[WISPA] Fw: [SPAM] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [SPAM] [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I would like to note that Redline echoed my thoughts on 3.65 GHz. It is not for rural providers and is not for high bandwidth providers. It's only practical implementation is a dense urban environment with low throughput clients. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone?

2008-01-11 Thread Ross Cornett
I too would say the same. Initially they did a good job, but soon after they began to be in effective and variable. We contacted them and got very little satisfaction. so, we are now trying mikrotiks at every tower. like a 333... details will follow with our success or failure. We have

[WISPA] Part 15 mailing list is no longer free...

2008-01-11 Thread Butch Evans
Part-15 has decided to charge for their mailing lists. I have created a Mikrotik mailing list (information below). I will be willing to create any other lists (even for gear I don't use) if people will simply ask for it. You can email me directly if you wish to have a list created.

[WISPA] Fw: Akamai

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai NetFlows will tell you exactly who you

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Exactly. What good is an AP that can only do 15 megs throughput in the city? What good is an AP that can only do 2 - 5 miles in the country? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

[WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Where is everyone buying their J-mounts for doing installs? I use about 100 per month and my previous source no longer carries them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Vent pipe installs?

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
Mike Hammett wrote: Preferred vendor for vent pipe mounts? Plumbing supply store. Buy a coupling the right size and type. I should say, not all vent pipe mounts need the vent extended. And sometimes, we can slip the cat 5 cable under the roof jack and into the attic. I wouldn't be adding

Re: [WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
What is a J mount? got a picture by chance? Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Where is everyone buying their J-mounts for doing installs? I use about 100 per month and my previous source no longer carries them. thanks, Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
Ok, I was thinking maybe someone had a mount shaped like a j that got you around the eve or something. I buy the ones you just posted myself. usually the long ones. Travis Johnson wrote: The universal mounts that are often used with satellite TV installs. It has a flat foot with a pipe

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
It's only practical implementation is a dense urban environment with low throughput I have a very hard time accepting that comment. 3.650 is more power than other unlicenced. 3.650 has better RF characteristics than 5.8G for NLOS and Distance. Possibly even better than 2.4G (up for debate,

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wimax APs can go much fartehr than 2-5 miles. You are spec'ing the distance limits of their advanced NLOS features. In LOS, they can go just as far as any other unlicened gear. I think its important to define country. If you are talking about Idaho with houses 20 miles apart, yes, you'd be

Re: [WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
I found that Tessco has the size (pipe width) that are the same as Trango Dish Arms. We prefer that size. To summarize, we prefer the smaller base with the thicker pole, but most only sell the thicker pole with the huge thicker base, and the smaller width pole with the smaller base. So when we

Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone?

2008-01-11 Thread Sam Tetherow
I'm sure you don't want to turn this into a why you should use X thread, but I am curious what you are having problems limiting with the other devices you have tried? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John Scrivner wrote: I have been considering the Net Equalizer as a possible platform for

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
I find myself referring to WiMAX when describing our service. We use the term broadband to describe our service. When asked to explain the difference between our broadband and the others, it's getting easy to say you have heard of WiMAX right? well this is what we do we use microwave to reach

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
I guess as long as your over the air protocol conforms to 802.16 you can say you are WiMax. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread John Valenti
I ran across this study a few weeks back: http://www.bsu.edu/owrm/article/0,,47997--,00.html Reading the executive summary, in their real world tests, NLOS/indoor radios only worked about one mile. Outdoor mounted radios worked maybe five miles. (I wasn't too impressed, in comparison

Re: [WISPA] test

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
Yes Chuck the behives are loud and clear Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: From: Chuck McCown - 2 To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: test I think I subscribed but have never monitored WISPA before today. Is ?this list alive? Is there a [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread George Rogato
The only benefit of 3.65 is, additional spectrum. And that will get used up fairly quickly I'm sure. We need more. John Valenti wrote: I ran across this study a few weeks back: http://www.bsu.edu/owrm/article/0,,47997--,00.html Reading the executive summary, in their real world

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
WiMax is sure getting lots of press. Especially at CES. Funny, they are talking up the Sprint roll out but Sprint has bailed. Still smoke and mirrors compared to Canopy but I guess we might as well capitalize on the buzz. While blathering on here, a business mentor told me long ago to

Re: [WISPA] Mailing List Status

2008-01-11 Thread Digineer
Hi, I don't seem to be able to log in to reset the listserv to send me a digest daily. Can you advise what to do? Thank you Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:14 AM

Re: [WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
DFcco.com Mike Bushard, Jr Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] sources Hi, Where

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I'm wondering the same thing, Chuck. It is such a good list, so many answers can be had. I am going to try and talk the boss man into paying for it, but I don't know if he will. It's really amazing what he will/wont spend money on... WISPA should create Vendor specific lists Mike Bushard, Jr

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Sam Tetherow
If the 'other' list is the part-15 list. I think you will see the private lists drop down to the core part-15 members. Michael was talking about having one general list open to everyone and you will probably see more people there. But for the experienced operators (the people that answer the

Re: [WISPA] sources

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
Question, since I have not previously been monitoring wispa, how tolerant is the wispa group to folks like me dropping hints about new products or AF or things like that? I read all the rules and mission statements etc of wispa and don't want to go against convention. Is there a list blast

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
I totally agree. I have known about Michael's plan to go pay for about a week now. He was going to make the announcement in Salt Lake City on Thursday. But I guess he wanted to break it today so there wouldn't be so much shock at the show. I truly wish him the best too. I have used his

Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone?

2008-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Personally, all I have seen are last generation. What I'd like to know is which have evolved to tackle the trends of newer network designs. How many support multiple outbound paths correctly? Are any multi-layer yet, from the perspective of doing bandwdith management per sector attached to it,

[WISPA] Squid anyny one?

2008-01-11 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Does any one have any recent experience with squid cashing server software http://www.squid-cache.org/ One of our customers set it up across their network and thought it was super easy to set up and doing a bang up job for about 300 users. Is there any real world experience out there? Will it