Marlon,
If you think the WISP business is similar to a doctor or dentist or
plumber, you are very mistaken. The best advice I have ever heard
actually came from the son of a very wealthy doctor in our area. He
sold his son "find something that isn't trading your time for money". I
heard that a
Hi Marlon,
I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on things
so everyone is on the same page
Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define
Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood or
profit
Business: A unique system of pro
You're looking at this all backward Scottie.
WISPA isn't here to do for YOU. It's a mechanism that allows YOU to help
the INDUSTRY which then also helps you..
This is a TRADE ASSOCIATION, not a buying group, purchasing group etc. Our
main function in life is to make our industry better.
Plus all the cities that are mentioned are in a competitive environment! None
that are government competitive subsidized for some reason or another.
Scott
-- Original Message --
From: RickG
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:24:14 -0
Hi Scott,
>What has WISPA came up with to help WISP's get in on the broadband stimulus
>package? Throw me some bait? As I promised before, my membership fees(after
>>tax season) are sitting here... give me something to bite. Not being an A**,
>but I belonged to one place(not WISPA), but didn't
- Original Message -
From: "Charles Wu"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability
> Marlon,
>
>>Charles, your numbers are WAY off there.
>
> You can't base your numbers on the fact that you'r
What you are missing...is most of us can't get the funding to build that
Backhaul required and provide CPE for 100,000 CPE up front. Ok, sorry, I see
you are talking about Cali!
Many of us are covering rural areas that the local telco is not yetand if
they do...they are getting subsidized b
If you happen to have the $100k laying around I say go for it.
I'd start MUCH smaller and grow organically though. You should be able to
start with less than $25k and keep the rest for operating and unexpected
expenses.
I've got nearly 7000 square miles lit up and have been at this for just
s
Hi Rick,
I applaud your effort -- I totally emphasize and understand your perspective,
as 8 years ago, I was a one man shop working out of my college dorm room trying
to get a business started
There is an unfortunate reality that the one-man band is not a sustainable
long-term operation -- for
Oh yeah, 509.988.0260
Sorry about that!
marlon
- Original Message -
From: "Rogelio"
To: "Jack Unger"
Cc: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] marine interference problem on 2.4 GHz
> Jack Unger wrote:
>> I respectfully suggest you hire an expe
I haven't done a doc lately. But I do have a couple of sites around the
water. It can be interesting to say the least.
If you want, give me a call and I'll give you an idea or two to go try. If
those small scale tests work you should be able to easily fix the whole
site.
marlon
- Origi
>Even here, I eventually expect
>competition to enter my market. It would be nice to know the "secret
>sauce" so I can be better prepared for that day.
What has WISPA came up with to help WISP's get in on the broadband stimulus
package? Throw me some bait? As I promised before, my membership fee
I see Etherape running more often in coffee shops than I do in NOCs. :)
On May 24, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Charles Wyble
wrote:
> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/wlan/
>
> Also is anyone using visualization tools in your noc? such as
> ethereape
> or http://www.rumint.org/ etc?
>
>
>
> ---
> ---
> --
Marlon,
>Charles, your numbers are WAY off there.
You can't base your numbers on the fact that you're willing to be on call 24x7,
work 12 hour days 7 days / week as a function of "normal business operations"
-- it simply isn't sustainable from a long term perspective
Eventually, your wife WILL
http://www.ittc.ku.edu/wlan/
Also is anyone using visualization tools in your noc? such as ethereape
or http://www.rumint.org/ etc?
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Charles,
I'll check my archives for the spreadsheet (I think Charles Wu has it
online someplace) but I believe the financing is only a small portion
of the issue. It's the labor. Good, reliable labor, that has
experience and knowledge.
As far as your $100k, there are many variables and more detail
Yup, just like I said, the big variable is labor. Which dictated by
the number of subs and territory covered. To elaborate more, I didnt
mention my wife handles the front and back office work. Also, I've
leaned on a few local computer techs to take care of customer issues.
I take care of the networ
All these talks about financing have been very interesting.
Let's say I wanted to start a wisp to serve a medium city in southern
california (population 100,000 or so).
I can get access to gigabit fiber for a 1 time cross connect fee of 2500 and a
monthly cost of 1500. There are a few spot
I find the "secret sauce" of converting a customer a very interesting
subject as well. For the most part nearly every WISP I have run had a
monopoly. The ones that didnt had a niche of some kind. My first
owner/operator venture was not good because it was in a highly
competitive market and I could
Charles,
In the past, we've discussed WISP financing in much detail including
the startup spreadsheet we put together years ago. I've always found
it to be a very interesting subject. I've run large ISP's and small
ISP's includng both startups and those already operational. When you
get down to it
Jack Unger wrote:
> I respectfully suggest you hire an expert to address this problem.
In light of Jack's comment, I thought I'd share with everyone my
"non-expert" opinion on what the ultimate problem is/was (I was out
there last week):
--poorly placed radios,
--poorly placed antennas, and
--s
Charles, your numbers are WAY off there.
We run about a 20% margin and gross less than $30,000 per month. We're at a
bit over 500 subs at an average of $37.50 per month. That's high for our
here.
Our tax return doesn't show 20% for last year because of the bucket truck
and new spectrum analy
I'd like to solicit the advice of the wireless community to help me
determine whether Proxim or Aruba is the best fit for my friend.
As luck would have it, he is very likely have the opportunity to work at
once of them (just finished some interviews), but because he is very
family-oriented, he
>All I can say is if you are "holding back" on doing more installs because you
>can't afford it, you need to find some financing and get installing. Once that
>customer is installed with something else (DSL, >Cable, competitor), it's 10x
>harder to get them to switch to you. You have to get the
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