Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

2009-07-29 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Humm, not what I am reading into it. Lol, maybe I have read it too many times. ;-) Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM To: WISPA General List Cc:

[WISPA] [WISPA Members] RiniCoran/WISPA Conference Call Invitation (Week 2)

2009-07-29 Thread Rick Harnish
wispa_logo+slogan2008 _ P O Box 1582, Mount Vernon, IL 62864 www.wispa.org 866-317-2851 _ WISPA invites you to participate in a one-hour conference call with Steve Coran of Rini Coran, PC to answer your general questions about the BTOP and BIP application process,

Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

2009-07-29 Thread Brian Webster
Title: Thank You, That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted. Thank You, Brian Webster St. Louis Broadband wrote: Thank You, Humm, not what I am reading into it. Lol, maybe I have read it too many times ;-) Victoria Proffer

[WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Steve Barnes
I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8. With a 17dBi 120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to achieve? I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 2.4.

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Paul Hendry
Depends on many things. What's at the CPE end for example. Steve Barnes wrote: I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8. With a 17dBi 120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to

Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance

2009-07-29 Thread Paul Hendry
Hey Randy, Any joy with testing ROS on one of these? Would be interesting to see how it stacks up against the RB1000's or the original PoweRouter. P. Randy Cosby wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Robert West
Have you checked to make sure the competitor isn't also using 5.8 at that same location? If it was my luck, I'd go through the motions only to find out they were also pointing a 5ghz at me as well. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Jason Hensley
Would be just as cheap to move swap polarities. We've found the H-Pol is MUCH more reliable here for us. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Steve Barnes
Something Like a MT411a XR2 and a Arc 23 DB Panel Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:58 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
Bare AP (30dB EIRP) with 26 Subs 15 subs @ 10+ miles with 27RD -76dB typ 1 sub @ 13 with 27RD - 76dB Noise floor is around -82 Our LOS situation is about as good as it gets - subs at or near sea level, tower at 3450' __ Jerry Richardson airCloud

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sorry, that's with Canopy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance Bare AP (30dB EIRP) with 26 Subs 15 subs @ 10+

[WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Blake Bowers
I have been asked by some folks in an adjoining state how they would find out if a group is using 4.9 for their for-profit backbone, while they provide space for public safety on the 4.9 system also. Any ideas? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread lakeland
Can't. :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:50 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz I have been asked by some folks in an adjoining state how they would find

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sounds like an investigative effort. Find out where they provide commercial service and then SA the POP to see if they are only using 4.9 for backhaul. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: lakel...@gbcx.net

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Mark
Only state, county and municipal entities can be a 4.9 GHz license holder. Non-governmental public safety organizations can use the spectrum under the umbrella of a license holder. For example a private ambulance service can request the use of 4.9 GHz from a county sheriff's department who is a

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Blake Bowers
I realize they can't - but the public safety group thinks that they are. The public safety group is only a user - they gave them tower space in exchange for a couple of PTP links on 4.9, but the public safety group is concerned. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Blake Bowers
Thats what I figured, not an easy way, just document the sites and see what they are using for the links. Thanks Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Jason Hensley
I think we all know that. The question is how to find out if someone is using that spectrum illegally. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Blake Bowers
I really guess I did not make myself clear enough. I - and the people asking - totally understand that they cannot use the 4.9 for anything other than public safety. They were given the equipment for some PTP links in exchange for providing the company free space on their towers. The company

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Jack Unger
Blake, As Jerry suggests - investigate! Who is the system licensee? It should be a public safety agency or critical infrastructure provider. Ask their techs about the link. Follow up (if needed) with a very polite letter to the Chief of the agency requesting information and advising him of

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Charles Wyble
Also put in a call to the FCC. If they are illegally using the spectrum, the feds will most likely want to know. Jack Unger wrote: Blake, As Jerry suggests - investigate! Who is the system licensee? It should be a public safety agency or critical infrastructure provider. Ask their

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Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
If you have access to the link just put a hub between the radio and switch to create a monitor port. Then use Wireshark to see what is going where. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Robert West
I have no idea what the equipment is that they are using but it may be possible to turn off the equipment at the end points and then maybe, if the equipment on the tower by chance has an activity light, to see if it's passing traffic. But it's all ify. Is this company also providing the

[WISPA] WISP Reseller Agreement

2009-07-29 Thread Dennis Burgess
Just wondering if anyone has a reseller agreement to resell existing high speed services that they would like to share? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link

Re: [WISPA] Nanostation dish

2009-07-29 Thread Michael Baird
Vertical only, hrm wonder how that works on a reflector, seems like it would reflect horizontal as well as vertical. Regards Michael Baird Have you seen these? http://rfantennadesign.com/page35.html 6-8dB sure isn't much.

[WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is it getting better?

2009-07-29 Thread Rick Kunze
Customer calls just now. They ask if the Internet is having trouble, I reply that there are no outages. She then says she called a couple of her friends in neighboring towns and they were all down too. She asks if any other people have called today with problems. I replied stating that a

Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is it getting better?

2009-07-29 Thread Josh Luthman
People are stupid. A person is smart. Why do you think the *American *population has spent more then they earn every year for the last decade? Augh the computer isn't doing what I want...little brain power left...find phone let someone else think... I'm almost shocked to have found this...

Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance

2009-07-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Dennis, Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON 5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across processors? Or I recognize some NIC drivers support that (processor per NIC distribution) without 5000series ATIO features. Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

2009-07-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
But its worse than that... At first, one might think that the protestor would only have to prove that they had 40% coverage within their Census block they were protesting. BUT that is NOT true. Small providers will ahve little chance of winning a protest because. the 40% take rate is

Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

2009-07-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thats 40% subscription rate, based on total households located in the area. Area defined by applicant, not by protestor's covered area. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To:

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz

2009-07-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
To manage it themselves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz I really guess I

[WISPA] John Woodfield

2009-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
Finally received radios after nearly a month after placing the order. Unfortunately we did not get what we agreed to so we sent it back. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications