If it's a long flight they could burn some internet to a dual layer DVD.
But I thought Bill Curtis already found the internet on the plane with his
ATT netbook and the ATT G4 network??? I was SURE that's what he told me.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
This is one of the reasons I like StarOS so much. The developers also
run a WISP in their ski town (about 300 customers a few years ago, I
think)
Much more believable when they said do it this way and it works, I
could trust them.
Are there other wireless companies that do this?
On Sep
Tranzeo
Deliberant
-Original Message-
From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:31 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?)
This is one of the reasons I like StarOS so much.
MT
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:31 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Vendors eating their
We run our own ALL Mikrotk WISP with several hundred clients. We have
REAL WORLD deployments of N running 55 meg TCP! Etc, we sell what we
use, not what is cheap etc. We have 5+ years of building complete CPE
and APs that WE deploy!
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Depends what you mean by Vendor. Manufacturer or Reseller?
As a reseller/distributor we built from the ground up a 7,500 subscriber
WISP with over 130 tower sites (Mesa Networks located out of Frederick, CO).
We only sell gear we have personally used and deployed, and know how it
actually
Mikrotik, although they did say at MUM their WISP is much less a part of
their business than it was.
Ralph wrote:
Tranzeo
Deliberant
-Original Message-
From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:31 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
We are a distributor/reseller we started out as a ISP turned WISP and still
run our networks. We deploy what we sell and our techs have firsthand
knowledge with the equipment and work closely with the manufacturers we
represent to improve the products to work the best way.
/ Eje
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And remember, that ski town has a very low noise floor, so you sometimes get
, 'well why doesn't a -88 work? Dah
We use Star OS, so I need to duck now! Incoming!
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
cprof...@cv-access.com
Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central California
Exactly... I'd argue having a manufacturer that keeps engineers in the field
visiting WISP's and helping them solve their problems is more important than
having a manufacturer that has a small WISP on the side (heck that could
even be considered a distraction).
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
I don't buy into that model at all! Vendors need to focus on the product
they are manufacturing and work with their customers to ensure that they
are manufacturing what is needed and works as expected. While at first
it seems like a good idea eventually trying to be everything to everyone
causes a
Certainly, having engineers visit WISPs is important. I have appreciated
visits from a couple vendors and I'm sure they have learned a lot too
visiting various ISP customers. There is no replacement for this. I have
seen some suggestions make it into products from multiple vendors we
work
I put up some PacWireless 17dBi 90deg sectors and while I am pretty impressed
with the performance, chatter on the list tells me we could have done better.
What are your recommendations in the $400-500 category for 60 or 90 deg V Pol
sectors for better performance?
I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?
Marco
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Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036
I've always loved the old Decibel Products sectors. Rock solid, and a
very evenly distributed pattern.
Marco
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
I put up some PacWireless 17dBi 90deg sectors and while I am pretty impressed
with the performance,
One thing I have noticed with our 120 degree Pac antennas is that signal
strength VERY wide but don't go out very far.
With customers north east, you expect to hear the north and east radios. In
my recent example they were -65. On the ones close enough, I actually see
the one pointed the
Hello Marco,
In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
some faster radios. Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume these
faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach
Just to add...
New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.
FYI
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Is this what you're talking about, Bob? The EX-6i-DS3-GigE
http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the
Yep...I got that Exalt email too, but exactly how? Multiple channels? The
email didn't include any details. Is it a true 1Gbps FDX or 500Mbps FDX?
Not that 500Mbps at 6GHz is anything to sneeze at...
Or is it VaporWare?
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Well, duh ...aggregation of multiple radios...
We can all bond multiple radios to get to a certain speed. Just
divide the total speed you need by 187Mbps and that's the number of
radios/licenses you need.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Is
Uh Duh.
That's not how it is being done to my knowledge
-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:27:03
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed
187 mbps Per link
For 1 gig youll need 6 links
Is there rf room for 6 simultanious links in the same path?
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Is this what you're talking about, Bob? The EX-6i-DS3-GigE
Right, but the Exalt pitch is the radios bond within themselves. No outside
equipment required.
Bottom line is you'll likely need to be in a pretty remote area in order to
be able to find multiple 6GHz channels available between two points.
Brad
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From:
Exalt says only up to four links can be bonded. So, it's similar to
DragonWave's claim of GigE radios. Almost, but no cigar!
Last I checked 800Mbps isn't 1000Mbps...
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino
Fastest and Reliable are two conflicting variables, and question cant be
accurately answered without defining expectations for atleast one of them.
Big difference in distance between 99.9, 99.99 and 99.999%.
As well, if you use the DUO product lines, you can actually bond up to 4
channels to
I've got fiber to my noc, but need a diverse path (and cheaper per meg
bandwidth).
Options:
Build fiber to Dalllas, at 43 miles that's pretty expensive (443K).
Buy/Lease Dark Fiber to Dallas (I know there is dark fiber in the
trunk along I30, but I am having a hard time finding out who owns it)
Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps roughly
I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
During our pole route scouting a route that we submitted to the electric
company came back listing windjammer as being on the poles we are wanting to
get on in a rural area. I looked and it seems windjammer ceased providing
services in these and alot of other rural areas at the time of the
Oh and rumor has it Dragonwave is announcing a new product next week that
might double that throughput... :-D
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent:
We have bought a number of rural cable systems, and
almost every one was gutted, and the cable plant in almost
total disarray when sold.
It is certainly worth a call - but the attachment fees we found
being charged, (And often not paid for the past couple of
years, leaving an electric company
We worked a deal out with the powercompany for back pole fees. It was
hard because our power company is a public entity and there cannot be
a discount because it would be a 'gift of public funds' to do so.
if your pole owners are a private entity, then negotiations should be
a little more
So was your deal with the power company based on wind jammer infrastructure?
Can you tell more about this deal? Did you use existing copper or replace with
fiber or go hybrid? Off list if you prefer. The owners of the poles is the
electric company.
Thanks for any insight!
John
We worked a
We took over the tower, scrapped what was left in the
head end, and turned the cable on the poles over to a
company that scrapped the cable.
The electric companies really had no dog with us in the end -
we acquired the assets of the companies, not the companies.
We only bought them for the head
My opinion is...
I bet there are fewer overlaps than we expect, when broken down into smaller
census blocks.
But I bet that they'll pick the best one, and the others are out of luck.
But ones with just a few overlapping areas, they'll likely ask the applicant
to just remove those areas from
Is that 1.2 in each direction or a combined throughput of 1.2?
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps roughly
I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
Full Duplex... requires four 40MHz channels though
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Patrick,
Always great to see your list posts filled with good info. Responses
inline...
The E standard does enable use of diversity, but it comes at a high cost
and is of limited benefit for rural operators. The truth is that
diversity is designed to increase link budgets to support
I would imagine that's because their hardware and software business has
exploded.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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