NARUC 121st Annual Convention:
11/17/09
11:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m.
5th Floor - Ballroom D
National Broadband Stimulus Update
Larry Strickling, Director of NTIA and Jonathan Adelstein, Administrator of the
USDA Rural Utility Service provide an update on the American Recovery and
Reinvestment Act
What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
Hi All,
AFAIK, there is no standard for PoE on GigE, so each company does their own
thing until a standard is made available. I have heard one reference to it
as power over datalines.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Speaking of DragonWave... They have radios now that do more than 1 Gbit of
throughput in a single direction. Are they just doing multiple GigE ports
or is a 10GigE interface available?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
I believe Commscope was the company that purchased Andrew.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:13 PM
To: WISPA General
What do you consider low power? THe PowerRouter 732 will operate at
GigE speeds, 7 GigE Interfaces and consumes around 80 watts.
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc
In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
They have a crappy bracket. They are 2x heavier.
Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them. Been that way for
years. I even tried one again a year or so ago. yuck
marlon
- Original Message
I second and also third that opinion on the Pac bracket. S U C K S !
I use them for backhauls and they aren't spaced too far apart so the loss of
dB isn't much of an issue with me at the moment. Is there a grid that isn't
that much more in cost but a better value for the buck?
-Original
Low power is 10 watts or less.
This site runs on solar/wind power.The amount of power available is very
limited.
I've been looking at multiport ethernet card/mini-itx board combinations to
do the trick...
Awkward physically, and a little on the large size for power consumption,
though
Steve,
I don't know about WRAP, but for War2 boards I'm pretty sure you need
to ssh (putty) into it, go into System ... System Console. Then type
in system factory. That resets everything to factory defaults (ip
address, passwords, everything)
You can do the same process on War1 boards,
I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't
I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
Anyone out west have these?
Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
We have never had to seal any of the cables we built
If anybody is interested, I've got about 200 2.4 GHz 24db grids (mix
of andrew and rf antenna ) some brand new some used.
We don't use these anymore.
They are located in Greenville, TX
contact me off-list if you're interested.
Marco Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at
ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male
Marco
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
Anyone out west have
Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water
problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend.
On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400
Yeah, the $100 Andrew (comscope???) units! grin But they are now
discontinued.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
Advanced antenna was bought by http://rfantennadesign.com/
Brackets are pretty thick and don't have near the wobble as the previous
versions
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009
I have some EZ-400 NM on the shelf and a ton of EZ-400-FM-75's
Please hit me offlist if you like.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19,
Those are Andrew antennas :-).
The ONLY difference is the subreflector.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Larry Yunker leyun...@wispadvantage.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
I
I LOVE the pac wireless j arms. I won't buy anything else. No one even
comes close to the quality of those units.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I get mine from Hutton.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly
Rfantennadesign.com
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-Original Message-
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:32
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
802.11b.
1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
3) Must play
UBNT Bullet M2?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
802.11b.
1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
WPA
I vote for that as well. Cheap and easy.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
UBNT Bullet M2?
On Thu, Nov
WEP and WPA at the same time? Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein
Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.
Jayson Baker wrote:
UBNT Bullet M2?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
I have one small group on an old Cisco
In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
has been in
Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption. Our firmware
adds support for 64-bit and
I have 3 AP's with Cisco Aironet 1250's that handle both WEP and WPA at
the same time, and do it very well.
Josh Luthman wrote:
WEP and WPA at the same time? Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
are getting close to seeing a beta.
Features that are in 5.1:
- DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.
- Full 802.11abg support
- Full Encryption support (WEP, WPA/WPA2 AES/TKIP ect)
- ACK Removal for Point
Thanks George. I follow DSLR but missed that one.
George Morris wrote:
Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
are getting close to seeing a beta.
Features that are in 5.1:
- DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.
- Full 802.11abg support
It was promised at the end of November, beta should be out this week.
Regards
Michael Baird
Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.
Jayson Baker wrote:
UBNT Bullet M2?
On Thu, Nov
Ah I didn't catch the WEP part. Sucks you can't get away from that.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of pat
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
Bullet
Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all?
Thanks Marlon.
Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
MT
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
WISPA Vendor Member
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line
They hate you. It's true. I have units that hate me as well. Not much I
can do about it except try to understand their issues but it still doesn't
do me any good.
In the end, a hammer works.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Wow do I feel dumb. I am doing this myself at home.
Primary wireless interface - WEP
Virtual AP on said interface - WPA
I do different SSIDs, not sure how clients would react if they were the
same.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain 2.4GHz omni.
No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use. This is
to use with a Bullet2HP M.
Greg
WISPA Wants You! Join
I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there. I like how the bottom of the antenna
has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps. Weather has never
effected any one of my omnis - my install or anyone else - in 2 or 3 years.
CTI had a special on them recently, just in time for a campgrounds hotspot.
netstat -a might show you 4billion connections?
ryan
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:
Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
only happening with some of
Thanks! I just bought one a week ago to give it a try but it hasn't arrived yet.
Greg
On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there. I like how the bottom of the antenna
has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps. Weather has never
effected any
Tessco is where I get them.
I have them make up cables and have not had any problems with them
MDK wrote:
I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
Anyone out west have these?
Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
foot
Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a virtual AP. I
have one set up in my office. One SSID leads to WEP encryption and
different router rules. The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged;
for full network access. Some of our devices don't do wpa nicely.
Mike
At 04:12 PM
No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You
need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you
are lucky. Plain and simple.
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting
wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
Coax-seal
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:
CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they
What devices don't do WPA in today's world?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
Most
Old ones.
. . . J o n a t h a n
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
What devices don't do WPA in today's
Some old Palm devices. Recently a Dell pre 2003 that you couldn't
even update. No new stuff, but there are still a lot of wep only
devices out there.
At 05:58 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
What devices don't do WPA in today's world?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Looking at using MT in a small public WiFi setup. The topology is going to be a
5.7GHz WDS PMP from the top of a 10-story building looking down onto the
streets with 2.4 client access at street level. Initially this will not be a
mesh but I may implement MT's MME later.
My thought is to use a
Should be if not on the back. Shoot www.jeffcosoho.com a call or e-mail
me off list and I can get that assembled, tested, built and upgraded for
you so all you have to do is plug in and program!
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 19:15 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote:
My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N connector
installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.
Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is
room in the bottom of the
To all those interested,
The mikrotik-us...@wispa.org can be subscribed to by going to
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Rules and Penalties are as
Yes - hate the mess but seals the best!
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Coax-seal
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:
CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
No 400 connector from any
Nice! Let us know how you like it.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote:
Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The
You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there. Those Rootennas
rock, man!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't
ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove
with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before*
you tighten the fitting... Doh lol.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM,
Also HP had 100 VG AnyLAN that used 4 wires.
John
Jerry Richardson wrote:
There was a technology that used all 4 pairs. It was a proprietary solution
that put Video on one set and data on the other. Broadxxx or something like
that.
-Original Message-
From:
Cisco 1200 series will plug right in
John
AJ wrote:
Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 22:48 -0500, Robert West wrote:
You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there. Those Rootennas
rock, man!
LOL. How long do the kittys have to stay before they're ready to eat?
MM. Mikrowave kittens. :-)
--
The manual says 2 days. But it depends on altitude and ambient temperature.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik
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