One reason to avoid WDS is to have some redundancy - each AP is an island. If
you use WDS and have three AP's (A, B, and C) and they're all wired to the
router and one AP goes down you still have all the others working. If you're
using WDS and the topology is such that AP A is the only one
I use Witopia's VPN and they let you choose between a couple of common ports
(443 and I forget the other). They use common ports in the hopes that nobody is
blocking them along the way because if someone blocked those ports it would
break something important.
Greg
On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:15 PM,
Bob
I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that service as
well...
The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)
_
Glenn
To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html
5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.
5.1 Customer’s use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the
Service) shall
Does anybody have access in that area? I have a customer looking for
8-10Mb to a hotel. Prefers wireless as they would like something in
place in 2-3 weeks. Will go wireline if it's the only option.
Dylan
WISPA
I knew I saw that in there. I thought I remember someone going to jail
and/or getting sued by Comcast for doing something similar.
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
90 a meg
-- Original Message --
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:25:39 -0500
What is everyone in Central Ohio paying for Time Warner bandwidth weather it
be on their Fiber or
We went down the road of having the same ssid on each ap at a hotel were
serve. It is 6 floors and we have 18 ap's throughout. Out of those there are
only 12 that have hard wire connections(we are unable to run any new cat5),
the others link via wds. We try and setup the wds so that the unwired
When I set one up, I don't have them in one chain. Normally I would have
the gateway in the electrical room and associate APs to the left and to the
right and to one upstairs. 3 branches normally. If one section goes down
the others can normally be used dep0ending on the signal. But honestly,
I actually sent the same paragraph to our sales person at TW back when I
started using them and pointed that out. That's when I insisted that he
contact his big shots about it. The answer that came back was that my
Internal Business is indeed the reselling of bandwidth thus it was
allowed. So I
All right Patrick - I resemble that :-)
And I am bigger around than ever Walter.
Mac
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Okay, found my TW crap.
Here's part of what I sent to our salesperson.
.I was going over one of the service contracts that I have with Time
Warner for one of the hotels I do data services for and I see where it
states in paragraph 4, listed as Customer Obligations.
Customer agrees not to
I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,
Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist
Any ideas?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
WISPA Wants
I made mine from a cable winch. Removed the cable, put some rosin on the
hub, wrapped the rope around it 3 times and worked like a charm. Just had
to have a person on the ground pull the slack off the hub so the rope
wouldn't foul. 100 bucks from TSC. Specs say not to run it more than 5
We looked into this a couple years ago when we faced installing several 4'
6' antennas on top of four water towers. After a hard look at it and even
giving a try at raising one 4' antenna ourselves (just to see if we could)
we quickly decided it was far more economical to hire a tower crew.
A few months back there was a tread about this, but I can't seem to locate
it.
It is about a company that is manufacturing prefab foundations for tower
sites. Anyone have a link or experience?
Thanks!
Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/
Just glad to know you are around. Hey, that's works as a pun.
Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General
Is everything you have twisted, or do you have some braided?
Blake Bowers wrote:
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List
Everything I have is exactly what is in the pictures, save for the color
difference.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General
Gotcha...
I when I read it was for backup bandwidth thought - h that is kinda nice...
for the datacenter - not the wisp stuff I would love to have a backup link that
only cost $89
even just for our own use... but they frowned on that...
Mid Ohio region even...
:-/
Really?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:02:33
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations
Doesn't appear you got the message...
It was asked
A few months back there was a tread about this, but I can't seem to locate
it.
It is about a company that is manufacturing prefab foundations for tower
sites. Anyone have a link or experience?
Thanks!
Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
I found it:
http://www.oldcastleprecast.com/products/Documents/CellBlocks.pdf
V
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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:52 AM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Some more insight into allowed uses and sharing for 477 data.
-Jason
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Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?
We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the
CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.
The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series
hard to ignore and if it
Your old provider may be trying to have the gateway for your new IPs
on their router instead of routing them to your router.
IE, your old setup probably looked like this:
Provider router-/30-Your router-/24 for your customers.
New setup would be:
Provider router-/24-Your router(NAT)-different
I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the
dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my
Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this
weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of
BulletM's and Nano2M's in the
We use a lot of Loco2's - as you mention, they work great.
We're starting to deploy a lot of AirMax 5GHz stuff - it works even better.
We regularly see customers getting speedtest of 80Mbps (down and up).
Latency is good. We're in a very heavily crowded 5GHz area, and it doesn't
seem to affect
Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one
antenna)?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Michael Baird
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
MIMO I think assumes two chains, two antennas.
Still, 802.11n in one 20mhz single channel,chain (should be) better
then 802.11a or g in one 20 mhz channel.
Is that not right?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final,
Indeed
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity
Jerry,
Yes, although we aren't using NS2-loco's on the airmax deployment, only
BulletM's w/panel or grid and Nanostation 2 M's, per availability.
That's why I said I'm looking forward to having the dual chains with the
MIMO sectors into the future (they weren't available when we built this
How about doing the same with your towers?
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I've always used WDS and the same SSIDs in the hotels. Never had an issue
with it.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
80Mbps? I'd settle for 1/4 of that.
Mind if I pick your brain a bit?
- How many AP's on the tower?
- RocketM AP's?
- Antenna on the AP?
- AP channel width?
- Distance to nearest CPE
- Distance to furthest CPE?
- CPE device and antenna?
- Average latency under load?
thanks
From:
To me the word internal sounds like office/management use. I would assume your
external business is that which involves the public.
Greg
On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Robert West wrote:
I actually sent the same paragraph to our sales person at TW back when I
started using them and pointed
Jason,
What the state is saying is that as an operator within the State you are
also required to file a report with them in addition to the FCC form 477.
They can use the data they collect but they do not have access to the
official FCC 477 database.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
214
Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do not
say for sure.
TIA,
Scottie
Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth.
Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information.
How often is the power delivered to the tower for the lights NOT 120 vAC?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.
/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc.
Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter
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From:
I'm thinking that every 802.11 device can be an AP or CPE.
Pretty sure Tranzeo can. I know Engenius can. MT semi-can (requires
lvl 4 to do ptmp).
Ruckus/Cisco probably can't.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final,
Eje,
Got an ETA on Powerbridges?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.
Either or.
Pretty sure they're there...
http://twitter.com/wisprouter
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:24
Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
datasheet for it eiter.
The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
China towards the end of this month so don't expect any
I have one of these: http://portablewinch.com/
I use it for all kinds of things. It needs to pull straight on, not
overhead, so your first pulley needs to be straight on from the unit.
I have moved, pulled, recovered some remarkable things with that unit. I
even have the skidding cone too to
We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now
encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is the only
solution to introduce attenuation?
I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile from the AP.
With everything at default
http://www.hoistsdirect.com/MY-TE%20Hoist.htm
We have one of the 300 models. Works great
Chris Cooper
Intelliwave
I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,
Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist
Any ideas?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless
I just put in (24 hours in use) a P2P backhaul from my provider.
Using 2 solid dual pol dishes and a 20 mhz channel over 11 miles, I can't
swamp the link with a 50 mbit transfer.
It is sitting on a channel that my star-os backhaul would not use
effectively due to interference, and where my
I agree with Brad. Lifting a 4' dish is like lifting a 13 sq ft piece of
plywood.
Be careful. You need to tag this load about 150+ feet from the base of the
tower to protect other equipment on the tower and your antenna. Very
unpredictable if not rigged right.
-B-
Sent from my Verizon
Bob, thanks for the advice, care to share a few rigging tips?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Thursday, March
With all the ubnt gear you can lower the power level via web interface, we
do this often on our gear to provide rock solid links.
Ryan
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote:
We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now
I know the regular Pico2 can. I have an HP also and do not remember seetting
it not have the CPE setting as well
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:34 PM
To:
On any gear I try to get the levels to around -65 and very close both
directions. Things just seem to work better that way.
I have also found on most of the Ubiquity SR and XR cards that setting
the power to 2 points less than max works better than at max no matter
what the signal level.
Ryan
My theory on this is you are not pushing the card to the max. Kind of
like not driving a car flat out 100 percent of the time.
---
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
wrote:
On any gear I try to get the levels to around -65 and very
http://broadcastengineering.com/news/tv-broadcasters-await-fcc-0304/
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Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing
Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Better yet turn down the AP if all your CPE's are hot. You'd be
surprised that a -85 becomes a -72 because it's not multipathing anymore
with the lower AP signal and the hot signals are more in line. Plus if
you turn the CPE down too far from remote they you lose connection and
have to make
I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading
this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all
of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept
procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good
truck -
http://broadcastengineering.com/news/new-mobile-dtv-marketplace-glimpse-first-commercially-consumer-receivers-0304/
--
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Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing
Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should
join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture.
On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like
That sucks.
thanks for the reminder.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
I just want to share this with you,
Isn't that what the little 10min Lube sticker in the upper left hand corner
of your windshield is for?
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:06 PM
To: WISPA General
That sucks :(
I'm getting my oil changed and washtomorrow already!
On 3/4/10, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
That sucks.
thanks for the reminder.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
There is a GPS service a guy in Idaho uses that notifys you when
you've hit the mile mark (depending on your type of truck/oil).
But I'm low tech like you, the sticker :)
On 3/4/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
Isn't that what the little 10min Lube sticker in the upper left hand corner
That's just it. One site to the next could require completely different
rigging for success.
For example one of the water towers we have is a rounded pumpkin shaped
bowl. No way a climber could be out there on the edge because there is no
edge! The tower crew fabricated a sled with caster
Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware
what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven proposition is not
directly related to my e-mail?
Because if it is then you need to withdraw this statement. As you might be
aware WISP-Router whom I represent is one
Eje,
Did you get my off-list email about POE surge protection on Canopy earlier
today? If not, shoot me a direct email, please.
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:
Looking for a fellow WISP there to handle some installs for me.
Ralph
Brightlan.net
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LOL, I'd trust Eje's info over some of the things I've seen in the forum :)
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware
what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven
Speaking of Pico - I get better performance with the low powered
version that the HP!
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
matter no price difference or different specific
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