So, I have a friend that tried that once.
It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system.
Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc
on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0 disk array, etc.
On top of that the linux distributions didn't seem
Hi All,
I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/support.
Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left.
Regards,
Jeff
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ImageStream
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From:
Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream
installs is pretty chickenshit IMO.
Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning...
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
I believe that when history looks back at the current internet kids it will be
judged as a lost generation.
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:24:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect
Everyone is thinking it.
Hint: take the card out before pulling warranty.
On 4/16/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream
installs is pretty chickenshit IMO.
Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning...
Brad
How so Brad?
We sell a complete, warranted, supported product. If you want to buy the
pieces/parts and build your own, that's great (and I believe that you do).
How can we warrant a product when we did not put sell all the gear that went
in to it? If there is a product defect, how are we
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
So, I have a friend that tried that once.
It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system.
Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc
on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0
Comment period starts today and the maps are not yet published.
The comment period for CCI proposed funded service areas opens on April
15th, 2010.
IMPORTANT: Announcement of Extended 25-day Comment Period for CCI Projects.
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)
There are status LEDs in the beehive one- these won't work with reversed
polarity unless they've designed for that scenario...
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com
Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
??
I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if you buy
an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly) and
install it in your Cisco router.
I'm not suggesting Imagestream should be onboard with a user installing
something other than what Imagestream sells
Can you name a similiar manufacture that allows you to open their
product, add 3rd party hardware yourself - and then still honor the
original warranty?
Doesn't seem too unreasonable to me that IS wants to provide a stable
product and wants to keep the HW legit and the installation thereof
Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any
Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS upgrades
etc. Are you suggesting Cisco provides a cheaper HW upgrade solution?
This is like pulling your car into the oil change station, handing the
guy 5 qt of your
I would guess that Cisco will honor if you add a Cisco built card, but
not third party and only if you don't open the case.
Brad Belton wrote:
I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if you buy
an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly) and
I completely agree if the card installed is 3rd party and completely different
than what Imagestream, Cisco or any OEM sells.
The point is If the card is exactly the same as OEM, however being
sourced from somewhere else other than the OEM, I don't see why the OEM should
get their
The joys of x86 hardware...lower cost with a chance of additional
discussion.
I've not looked at a price for the card individually as I have not needed
it, but maybe we can get an MSRP for it? If it's another $25 or something
who cares, but I have been told verbally it is much much higher.
Josh
Right, and that's pretty easy since there aren't really 3rd party
Cisco cards (counterfeit doesn't count).
You can add intel NICs to older PIXs but that involves breaking
warranty stickers.
Gotta say Imagestream's stance on this is normal.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Scott Reed
K- be sure to call newegg at 3am when your core router is acting up
and have them walk you thru a solution.
Sorry- I just don't like seeing IS bashed when I think their pricing
is fair- you're buying HW, support, and profit. Aren't you guys in
business yourself? Would you let your customers
Actually, every oil change place in this area will do that for you. Lots
of people want to run things like AMSoil, etc.
Travis
Microserv
Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any
Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS
The point is If the card is EXACTLY the same as OEM, however being
sourced from somewhere else other than the OEM, I don't see why the OEM should
get their panties all in a wad and void the warranty on the product.
Best,
Brad
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From:
Want to remind on the Latency factor versus window size that will limit the
maximum speed possible to transfer per TCP session.
To test 1G, you really need to have a near by low latency site to test to,
to get accurate result for a single session.
And may be impossible to fill capacity without
What everyone is saying is the Cisco is not Imagestream.
I think we can all be very very very thankful of that.
It's an Imagestream policy not to put in third party parts. Follow it
or don't, it is your choice.
I will like to know what the part costs from Imagestream as Newegg charges $45.
On
Hello All,
This morning I was reviewing the list and saw a reference to conversion
procedure to turn P9 canopy SM's into AP's. Does anyone have further info on
this procedure or have a source for the information to do so?
Tracy Tippett
-
Stop right there. Forget it happened.
It isn't right. It isn't legal.
You could do it with much older ones with the GUI (before P8 for sure, maybe
even farther back). It is possible as it is the same hardware, however,
when Motorola ships them it is their decision which ones are made APs.
Welcome to Capitalism.
The Vendor can charge and support what they want.
We as the purchaser can decide to simply go w/ the flow they set ... OR ... buy
elsewhere.
While I personally believe companies like vYatta, PFSense, and others who give
a list of supported hardware are wise in their
We just bought a 2 port copper gig card for $1000+. Not sure what the
same card would cost otherwise.
--
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Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Was it this one..?
http://www.amazon.com/Single-Bulk-Intel-Server-Adapter/dp/B000BMXME8
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
I don¹t think it¹s a IS vs. Cisco vs. whatever sort of thing. It¹s
someone trying to understand why the same card is much more expensive OEM.
Maybe there is something different about it. The geeks out there have
inquiring minds. Otherwise they would not have taken the time to find out
it is
Guys and Gals it's been a long week and I need a good laugh.
Anyone got a Friday funny worth its weight?
Steve
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What do you call a Fish with no eyes?
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“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Steven Barnes
I have a RB433 that randomly stops talking to the Cisco 3560 on
ether1, does that count?
On 4/16/10, Steven Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
Guys and Gals it's been a long week and I need a good laugh.
Anyone got a Friday funny worth its weight?
Steve
My grandmother went to go live with Jesus last Friday.
Caught him with another woman Saturday, she's back home now.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Barnes
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General
Last time we purchased one (3-4 years ago) I think it was $125.
Travis
Microserv
Josh Luthman wrote:
What everyone is saying is the Cisco is not Imagestream.
I think we can all be very very very thankful of that.
It's an Imagestream policy not to put in third party parts. Follow it
or
It might be exactly the same and it might not be Brad. I don't know.
What I can tell you is that, in 10 years, I can't recall ever having to
enforce this policy.
Do you know of any other manufacturer who has support, warranty, and the
router distro license follow the serial number of the
Now that I can finally afford cancer, due to Obama Care, I can finally take
up smoking again.
It's about time.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Barnes
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
My wife randomly stops talking to me but I have looked at that as a GOOD
thing.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday
Hi Travis,
We generally don't sell that card anymore. We weren't able to get the
performance that we wanted.
Our 10/100/1000 NIC (both PCI and PCIe) are now $295.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
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-Original
Don't buy health insurance...
Wait until you need it and sign up on your way to the hospital.
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston
One thing that we DO do is allow a user to add their own Linux-based
programs to the user space.
I don't know of anyone else that does that.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
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From:
About that Paul sent me a bad link for iperf and never got back to me.
On 4/16/10, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote:
One thing that we DO do is allow a user to add their own Linux-based
programs to the user space.
I don't know of anyone else that does that.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtPvv4IS7HY
Some people have too much time on their hands.
/ Eje
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Barnes
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
On 04/16/2010 10:00 AM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any
Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS upgrades
etc. Are you suggesting Cisco provides a cheaper HW upgrade solution?
This is like pulling your car into
The one I have doesn't have PCI-express slots, just standard 32 bit PCI. I
guess I can use the Intel dual 1000 cards:
altho looking on-line the edge connector looks longer than the regular PCI
slot, or is that an optical illusion?
Tom S.
- Original Message -
From: Frank Crawford
The one I have doesn't have PCI-express slots, just standard 32 bit PCI. I
guess I can use the Intel dual 1000 cards:
http://www.intel.com/products/server/adapters/pro1000mt-dualport/pro1000mt-dualport-overview.htm
altho looking on-line the edge connector is longer than the regular PCI
slot. Is
The general Press Release describing WISPA's recent FCC TV White Space
meeting with the FCC was published yesterday. Please check it out.
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/WISPA-Asks-FCC-to-Optimize-TV-Whitespace-Rules-1148605.htm
I would like to thank:
a) The WISPA Trip Team Members who
Jeff,
Tone via email is hard to convey...grin, but I did warn this morning that
I caught your voiding warranty email at a bad time. lol
Certainly I agree ImageStream is a great breath of fresh air as compared to
Cisco and many, many other products available. We have all heard and read
how
The 80 year old dial up customer calls, he's running Windows 3.1 and
regularly complains about speed, he's the kind of guy who would bring in
his record player and ask why the CD won't play. He says he got a
notice that his PPP/Winsock wouldn't work, he yells I can't get my PPP up!
On
Forbes you realize that this is only funny to about .005% of the
population. I've been laughing constantly since I read it. Thanks.
Steve Barnes
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010
I remember some of the old macs (open transport?) had an arrow that went
up or down to indicate the status of the PPP connection.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:50:45PM -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote:
The 80 year old dial up customer calls, he's running Windows 3.1 and
regularly complains about speed,
Yup! Really appreciate your help on that. Butch will be down there in
early May for our ICNA training.
Jeff
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
ROFL
guess I am in the .005%
On Apr 16, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Steven Barnes wrote:
Forbes you realize that this is only funny to about .005% of the
population. I've been laughing constantly since I read it. Thanks.
Steve Barnes
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Sadly, we're in that .005%...
I can see it all happening. And yet, the old guy wouldn't understand why he
would be laughed at.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Barnes
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:59
ROFLMAO!!!
On 4/16/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Sadly, we're in that .005%...
I can see it all happening. And yet, the old guy wouldn't understand why he
would be laughed at.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
If anyone who applied for a BTOP/BIP grant, wants to send me their executive
summaries, I will publish them to the WISPA website.
Thanks,
Rick Harnish
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Never mind just figured it out :-) The problem for me is that I work almost
exclusively on embedded X86 using Alix and rarely have to deal with standard
x86 mobos. So it looks like this older Imagestream gateway is limited to
100baseT unless there's a trick way to accomodate PCI-X cards (?)
Intel Dual Port Pro1000 PCI-X GigE cards will work in a standard 32BIT PCI
slot. The Intel Quad Port PCI-X cards will only work in a PCI-X slot.
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Friday, April
Nah, just $150 for a $30 power supply that's a little better than the ones in
the Rebels already.
Sorry Jeff. Don't drive to my house and stab me :D
--
Adam Kennedy
Network Engineer
Omnicity, Inc.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
http://www.imagestreamsolutions.com/Network_Cards/PCI_Cards.html
Josh Luthman wrote:
What everyone is saying is the Cisco is not Imagestream.
I think we can all be very very very thankful of that.
It's an Imagestream policy not to put in third party parts. Follow it
or don't, it is your
The first thing to do is upgrade to manage switches. I use the cisco ones
($250 used or so) and then do something called Protected Port. Basically it
blocks client to client communication. Just like we do with the ap's.
That should help some of it.
Naturally you already block client to
493ah can do that too for around $150 by the way.
On 4/16/10, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
The first thing to do is upgrade to manage switches. I use the cisco ones
($250 used or so) and then do something called Protected Port. Basically it
blocks client to client
Not enough ports for some of my towers.
Also, do you happen to know how many streams it can keep flowing?
I'm finding that many customers running internet is a LOT harder on things
than a few customers running high bandwidth
marlon
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From: Josh Luthman
Once it does 20mbps+ I would get an x86 box like Travis does. Something
like $50 or $100 for RouterOS and then the cost of your x86 box.
Cisco could probably cut it but I'm not a Cisco person. Minimal knowledge
in software capability and even less experience in the field.
Josh Luthman
Office:
And don't forget Trumpet Winsock!
ryan
Wash your mouth out with soap when you say that! It is a dirty word! How
about those AT modem commands too!
Hahaha!
Scriv
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Mr. Tattam down under would not be happy.
This software saved our rear-ends 15 years ago. We should still honor this guy.
Regards,
F.
On 2010-04-16, at 9:24 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
And don't forget Trumpet Winsock!
ryan
Wash your mouth out with soap when you say that! It is a dirty
Hey wait no one asked me about my joke :(
On 4/16/10, Francois D. Menard fmen...@xittel.net wrote:
Mr. Tattam down under would not be happy.
This software saved our rear-ends 15 years ago. We should still honor this
guy.
Regards,
F.
On 2010-04-16, at 9:24 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
And
Alright what do you call it?
/Eje
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:45:08
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday Funnies
Hey wait no one asked me about my joke :(
Friends dont let Friends Bridge --- i was told someone had a Tshirt
with this on it :-)
First - I would suggest doing a few vlans - does your switch and
router support it ?
vlans to the radios - when your limited is a very nice feature
you can literally lock the radio to 1 ip that way
Shoot
Good info Rubens. Thanks!
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says:
Actual tested throughput Ether1 - Ether2 = 1Gbps
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