[WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
This has been a very long day, after a lightning storm we started to have towers randomly drop for 2-10 minutes with no consistency as to where, how how long. The tower that was affected by last nights lightning restarted (locally) so that wasn't it. The outages were so extensive that at one

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Eric Rogers
Forbes, Can you give me a little more info on the setup of your network? Are you layer 2 throughout your backhauls and tower sites? I have seen OSPF flapping causing some weird issues on layer 3 networks. If you look at the routers in the tower site, do you see anything in the log as to what

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Jason Bailey
If it's all layer 2 bridge,maybe a second dhcp server running? Are you running dhcp? --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, August 1,

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Brian Webster
Or did a customer plug their CPE in to the wrong side of a home router which is now giving out DHCP addresses? Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-08-01 Thread Josh Luthman
We did a similar survey and found Travis was the biggest bandwidth nazi. I was in the worst third :( On Jul 31, 2010 10:48 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, thats about right. At 300 subs, I'm seeing occasional burst of 20Mbps. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman

[WISPA] Exalt ExploreAIR

2010-08-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I got a nice little email from Exalt about their new product, without actually saying anything about it. Any specification sheets out there? Top speed in different bands? Price ranges? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
That's my suspicion how do you block that?! On 8/1/2010 8:26 AM, Brian Webster wrote: Or did a customer plug their CPE in to the wrong side of a home router which is now giving out DHCP addresses? Brian *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Nope we static (private IP) nearly the entire network, one static for their radio and one static for them to put in their router for us to see that they can surf. On 8/1/2010 7:26 AM, Jason Bailey wrote: If it's all layer 2 bridge,maybe a second dhcp server running? Are you running dhcp?

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thanks Eric, We run a 2811 Cisco core router that feeds a Vyatta server for handing out private static and public addresses which runs into a Mikrotik bandwidth unit then over six backhauls to various towers from our head end. Six towers relay to the next tower down. We have about 70 Public

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Scott Reed
Are they really down, or can you just not get to them? That is, are the customers calling that they are down? Do you use dynamic routing such as RIP or OSPF? If so, I would suspect something is making them drop and reestablish routes. Accept and drop do what they say for traffic destined for

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Forbes, I remember seeing something similar to this on the list a few months back. Turned out he guy was running a bridged network and water got into the Ethernet connector on a Bullet and was causing Layer2 broadcast storms on the network. Very similar results to what you are reporting. Kurt

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Justin Wilson
If it is bridged a single router plugged in backwords can bring down the whole network. Some 750¹s would be a good fix.When I had HighGain Aps as bridges we would run into this problem as well. I never figured it out because we eventually went to MT aps. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Bret Clark
Sounds a lot like a proxy arp issue where a device is trying to answer for all the other devices and clearly on a big network that is not going to work well. On 08/01/2010 02:20 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: If it is bridged a single router plugged in backwords can bring down the whole

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Wow very interesting hypothesis since it happened right after a lightning storm with heavy rain. Trouble is I shut off all six backhauls and started turning them on one by one until I had a IP conflict warning then turned that one off, the IP conflict happened again, yes I did arp -d to clear

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Justin Wilson
Sounds like you need some filtering bridges to help you in the meantime. Drop some in the network and add some rules for DHCP and such. You don¹t have to re-address. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Forbes

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread John Kingsley
Forbes Mercy wrote: Wow very interesting hypothesis since it happened right after a lightning storm with heavy rain. Trouble is I shut off all six backhauls and started turning them on one by one until I had a IP conflict warning then turned that one off, the IP conflict happened again,

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Forbes, Another thing to check, do you have any switches that do POE? Make sure you don't have a CAT5 wire with water getting inside and traveling all the way down into your switch and dumping water in there. -Kurt Fankhauser - Original Message - From: John Kingsley j...@wakenet.ca

Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP

2010-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hey whoever forwarded my issue to Brett thanks, he pointed out how to isolate individual bridges with WireShark. I did that and found the tower, it's too late today but having that tower down brought the rest of the system back up. As Marlon said so will you be routed tomorrow? Well maybe