Yes, wi-fi kills trees for sure...
When they're in the fresnel zone, we cut them down!
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Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com
On 12/3/2010 8:36 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:
Wi-Fi is killing
My first job out of college was working as an RF engineer for Sprint
Cellular. One of the joyful tasks I had to do as a very junior engineer was
audit FCC and FAA filings for about 500 cell sites along the eastern
seaboard. The regulations then, and I believe still, are that nothing is
supposed to
Has UBNT resolved the 32 max number of stations that you can see in the station
list yet?
I see in 5.3 beta 4 there is the ability to sort the list added. But it
doesn't say how many at a time.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
I thought it was global warming. All kidding aside, it goes back to this:
Even if true, what do they want to do about it?
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:36 AM, St. Louis Broadband
li...@stlbroadband.comwrote:
Wi-Fi is killing trees, study finds
Enjoying reading the latest technology news and reviews
Hi All,
I have a customer that decided to reload windows. They now have no family
pictures left. ug I've told them to leave the computer off till I can
figure out how to get the files back.
My plan is to get a USB hard drive adapter and use that to pull off any pics
I can find.
Anyone
I'm not surprised but what I find interesting is this: How does a few feet
make a difference to a helicopter or airplane? Why would you be that close
to a tower either way?
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:
My first job out of college was working as an RF
Active@
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On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have a customer that decided to reload windows. They now have no family
pictures left. ug I've told them to leave the computer off till I can
figure out how to get the
Because the obstruction MAY block the light from the pilot's view from
certain angles. As for why are they close anyway? They may not know the
tower is there - EXAMPLE: EMS Helo's often fly into strange areas at the
request of local public safety. Another reason is that weather related
visibility
Marlon,
It depends on what you mean by reload windows. You might need a file
recovery program such as Data Recovery Wizard, etc. Or it may be as simple
as rolling it back to an earlier restore date. For transferring files, I use
an invaluable tool: http://thetornado.com - so easy a chimp can do
Good answer. I dont fly which is why I asked. Thanks!
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Aaron D. Osgood
aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote:
Because the obstruction MAY block the light from the pilot’s view from
certain angles. As for why are they close anyway? They may not know the
tower
www.easeus.com - data recovery wizard - can't beat it for the price. Will
recover even after multiple reformats.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
He reinstalled windows. All traces of the old files are gone. I need a
program that can grab the files directly from the disk.
I know they exist, I just don't know which one's are a good bang for the buck.
thanks,
marlon
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From: RickG
To: WISPA General List
I use GetDataBack and GetDataBackNTFS.
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hi All,
I have a customer that decided to reload windows. They now have no family
pictures left. ug I've told them to leave the computer off till I can
figure out how to get the files
Thanks!
That looks like just what I'm after.
marlon
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From: Jason Hensley
To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software
www.easeus.com - data recovery wizard - can't beat it for the
Hmmm, a bootable cd sounds like an easier way to do this!
marlon
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From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software
Active@
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Did the Windows installer (the app) ask to format the drive?
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
He reinstalled windows. All traces of the old files are gone. I need a
program that can grab the files directly from the disk.
I know they exist, I just don't know
I just used Active@ Partition Recovery on a system where the partition was
deleted. Worked like a champ. They have a free demo to try first it shows the
lost files, but you can't restore them until you purchase it.
NGL
From: Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:33 AM
To:
Helicopters fly at night and in the worst visibility conditions. They fly
slow and hover. If there is a particular vector or direction that an antenna
blocks the visibility of the beacon light it can cause these types of
accidents. A helicopter would linger in a blind spot of the obstructed tower
I don't know. I wasn't there and no one asked me about it first
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From: Greg Ihnen
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software
Did the Windows installer (the app) ask to format the
I've used Bart PE. It's easy to make and works well.
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hmmm, a bootable cd sounds like an easier way to do this!
marlon
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From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA
If the Windows installer formatted the drive it's gone, all gone.
What version of Windows (XP, Vista, 7)?
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I don't know. I wasn't there and no one asked me about it first
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From: Greg Ihnen
To:
Then they repartitioned and/or formatted. Major difference.
On Dec 3, 2010 12:30 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
He reinstalled windows. All traces of the old files are gone. I need a
program that can grab the files directly from the disk.
I know they exist, I just don't
My guess is the installer app wanted to format and the operator clicked OK.
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Then they repartitioned and/or formatted. Major difference.
On Dec 3, 2010 12:30 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
He reinstalled windows. All
At 12/3/2010 01:07 PM, GregI wrote:
My guess is the installer app wanted to format and the operator clicked OK.
Greg
Probably worse than that. Microsoft no longer ships Windows
installation disks with consumer computers. Instead,they provide a
disk or hidden partition that only does one
What about the trees in the forests around 100KW UHF TV towers? Wouldn't
somebody have noticed, by now, that all the trees in a 10 mile radius had
died a few years into the '70s when the put them up?
Jonathan Schmidt
W8BZB
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
UHF doesn't provide any radiation, you don't see the antennas on a
daily basis (unless you're looking).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan Schmidt
jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote:
What about the
It's actually caused by a combination of dikes (the kind that hold out the
water), aged Gouda cheese and wooden shoes.
Tom S.
WA6HAS
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:49 AM
I use Active@ File Recovery for such things. I can tell it to only find JPG
or whatever so I don't have to sort through crap more than I need to.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday,
In Vista and 7 it will sometimes stick user files in a folder called
Windows.old while reinstalling over itself.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
This is not true, you can recover files from a formatted drive. We do
it all the time. The problem is the more and more it is used the less
you can recover. Also, obviously the part of the disk where it wrote
the OS during installation will be gone, but fortunately that a lot of
times is where
There is a chain saw in my install truck!
On 12/3/2010 10:01 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
Yes, wi-fi kills trees for sure...
When they're in the fresnel zone, we cut them down!
If it was a quick format that's true, the data area of the disk is intact and
if it hasn't been overwritten it's recoverable to some degree. If it was a full
format then for regular folks the data is gone, it takes some pretty special
tricks to recover.
Greg
On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Larry A
I have updated the WISPA Member http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=170 's Maps
today.
If your company would like to join WISPA, go to http://signup.wispa.org. We
appreciate your support.
Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 WISPA Office
Yeah, and the fact that the trees out here seem to be growing FASTER than ever
before! Now that I'm a WISP I wish the trees would all die. But NOo, they
have to grow even faster! hehehehe
marlon
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From: Jonathan Schmidt
To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent:
Ironically, it was the Dutch Elm disease that killed most of the big,
beautiful trees in Ann Arbor when I grew up.
. . . j o n a t h a n
W8BZB
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:43 PM
To:
Yeah, but we have seen some of the Wi-Fi effects on you . LoL
I guess if there was 'issues' with Wi-Fi, some of would really be showing
the effects by now!
Humm. let me think about this.
Guys, running around saying they are radio-active . nope, that is normal.
~V~
From:
Here's a really good video for you to look at. It's about wispy but notice
how the wireless signals don't just stop at the edge of the channels, they
actually bleed down in a bell shape.
http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/04/15/spectrum-analyzers-get-integrated/
OFDM signals (g and a) are much
Yeah, check the firmware versions you are using etc.
Does the slowdown only happen at the customers or at your noc too?
What client gear are you guys using?
What routers are the customers using?
marlon
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From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
To:
I already knew it was a killer!
About 7 or 8 years ago a friend of mine put in a dedicated link to a
business customer. Customer was in a hole so the down tilt took him into
about 8 feet of two very tall pine trees. To compensate, he. Uh.
Well, he pushed the power WAY over legal!
like
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ductch Claim that Wi-Fi is killin Trees
Yes, wi-fi kills trees for sure...
Well, there are 83.5 mhz of spectrum available. So in theory, no.
HOWEVER, it'll depend on how close they are.
So if you have two systems at fairly low power levels I'd expect you to be
fine. If the power levels are very high though, you WILL interfer with
yourself.
Also, you'll likely find
I have a 100 foot guyed tower on top of a hill, it was previously an FM
Radio station, they moved their site, sold us the site, but continue to
use this site for STL's. Since then I've added the Fire Department and
a low power radio station plus my own equipment. The tower was never
lighted
Why not just run it in the LinkPlanner and find out?
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Christopher Hair wirele...@ntinet.comwrote:
We use 5.8Ghz PTP PTMP and 900Mhz PTMP to reach customers on the other
side of a lake about 2.2 miles wide. AP side is on a 40ft pole mounted at
the edge of the
Same here!
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
There is a chain saw in my install truck!
On 12/3/2010 10:01 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
Yes, wi-fi kills trees for sure...
When they're in the fresnel zone, we cut them down!
I also keep a bad of water softener salt and a 1inch drill-bit in
there as well
;-)
On 12/4/2010 12:50 AM, RickG wrote:
Same here!
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Blair
Davis the...@wmwisp.net
wrote:
There is
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