] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.
I am either firing or increasing rates. I can't sit there and have
customers doing 600 gigs for less then my cell bill...
On May 4, 2011 6:58 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote
Wow. After receiving our letter, our HEAVIEST user called in,
concerned. When we described the situation, he TOTALLY changed his
behavior and said that:
1. he was canceling his Netflix account
2. he is going back to DVDs for movies
3. he LOVES our service
He was the one that really pushed us
My user does 600 gigs a month. I wonder what he says when our UBB comes in
to play. I am hoping I am fortunate as you, Mark =)
I am very glad to see things went very smoothly for you!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, May
Dude... The thing is... After a LOT of emotion being pissed at the
abusers...
I made a decision to do this and craft it in such a way that I am VERY
unemotional when it comes to telling our staff how to handle customers.
Even though the customer may be emotional at first, if you don't play
I am either firing or increasing rates. I can't sit there and have
customers doing 600 gigs for less then my cell bill...
On May 4, 2011 6:58 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
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I had someone just yesterday after learning they were burning through their
20gig limit in 10 days, think about giving up their cable bill of $30 and just
pay me that money to watch shows. Until I told him that an HD movie would be
anywhere from 1.5-2gigs. Although I will have to think about
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs
stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this
point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their
bandwidth consumption.
Right now thanks to Josh for the
There has always been talk about the internet using a utility billing model, in
which there is a minimum usage and then charged for anything over the minimum.
Such as I pay for water, I get 3000 gallons for one price, anything over is
charged by gallon.
Electricity, Natural Gas and water all
As far as this bandwidth limiting stuff, I would suggest you guys look in to
Butch Evans' QOS script for MT. Maybe ImageStream, too (I know there was a
port in progress). It does this and as far as I know has worked flawlessly.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne
Matt,
Where did you come up with dividing the cost per megabit by 120?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
What is cost per megabit from your upstream?
Divide your cost
Matt,
Where did you come up with dividing the cost per megabit by 120?
1Mbps can upload and download 300Gbyte in a month each way. You must
figure in your peak and off peak. In the end 120 works out pretty
well. Doing the math on X number of users on an X sized circuit that
was due to be
Can this script be made available for everyone?
Joe Miller
DSLbyAir, LLC
228-831-8881
www.dslbyair.com
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated
So you're saying 120 because, based on your network:
1 mbit fiber = 120 gigabytes bandwidth
So to parallel
50mbit fiber = 6000 gigabytes bandwidth
$10/mbit / 6000 gigs transported = 8.3c per gig
Is that right?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
228-831-8881
www.dslbyair.com
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.
I've been saying for a while now
Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps
and
costs stated on your website somewhere
be made available for everyone?
Joe Miller
DSLbyAir, LLC
228-831-8881
www.dslbyair.com
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB
So you're saying 120 because, based on your network:
1 mbit fiber = 120 gigabytes bandwidth
It can actually it can do 150G up and 150G down. But due to uploads
being more expensive on a GPS network and peaks and lows I figure
120G.
So to parallel
50mbit fiber = 6000 gigabytes bandwidth
: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and
costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for
them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving
available for everyone?
Joe Miller
DSLbyAir, LLC
228-831-8881
www.dslbyair.com
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You
, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research.
You should
too.
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have
bandwidth caps and
costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not
charging
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps
and
costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging
for
them at this point. You also
...@avolve.net
mailto:spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB
research. You should
too
I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member...
On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and
costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them
at this point. You also have to
Postal or UPS? :)
On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member...
On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and
costs stated on your website
Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get one via postal... :)
On 5/3/2011 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Postal or UPS? :)
On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member...
On 5/3/2011
Just don't go postal, but yea sure I'd like to take a look at it.
-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 13:58:30 -0700
Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get
I already sent it to you like 30 minutes ago... From a different e-mail
account.
On 5/3/2011 2:33 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
Just don't go postal, but yea sure I'd like to take a look at it.
-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net
Robert
up/down/aggregate
103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB
The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down.
I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if
anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I
would greatly
Robert
up/down/aggregate
103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB
The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down.
I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if
anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I
would
25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
Robert
up/down/aggregate
103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB
The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down.
I got no responses
Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the
customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one
thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something.
Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable
companies,
Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to
continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them?
I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of
the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these...
1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows
for more costs more), or
2. change their behavior to not use so much
3. leave
I am
Chuck - Right or wrong is arguable, but if you don't have the spectrum then
I would do the same thing you are. I would argue it is right - you're
offering equal service to people for important things (Facebook
[communicating with family]) instead of letting moochers (Netflix) have the
runway.
What is cost per megabit from your upstream?
Divide your cost per megabit by 120 to get a good idea of your cost
per gigabit at the NOC. If your paying $20 per megabit you would be
at 0.17$ per GByte.
Figuring your cost on the wireless network is nearly impossible. I am
considering:
Total
Haven't run the numbers, but it doesn't look like this number is taking
into consideration staff cost, other overhead such administrative cost,
insurance, non-wireless gear and most importantly a reasonable profit
margin.
Looking at it from the other direction, I currently spend about 20% of
This is even more of a difficult equation, because as ISPs, WE typically
are not billed by the GB from OUR upstream providers. We are billed,
generally-speaking, by one of two mechanisms:
1. Pipe speed... You pay for 50mbps and that's what you get. It doesn't
matter if you only use 20, and
Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total
transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate?
This would allow for your average utube streaming of a small video, but kill
anything larger like netflix, hulu, etc.
IP Tables and a dynamic script should be able to
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 17:32, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total
transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate?
I tried something like that a while back - we got so very many angry phone
calls that the
To follow through some thinking here...
If that device was Billing-Server-Package-Aware then you could offer a
higher level of service for HD customers that allowed the Netflix
service to sense a higher-bandwidth connection and it may be more
likely to stream in HD than SD. I say offer...the
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