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I believe all of Trango's licensed equipment (6ghz, 11ghz, 18ghz, 23ghz)
is the same price.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Moreover, 6 GHz hardware is my
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So I guess satellite earth station minimum size requirements would really
make a barrier
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Tom,
Off the top of my head my guess is the difference is going to be much
greater than 1* between 3' and 6' antennas. Probably two to three times
that and yes, that does make a big difference.
While the 11Ghz
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:01 AM
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Brad,
I would encourage you to find 5 cases where 11GHz secondary license holders
had to upgrade dishes. From what I understand it hasn't happened more
to upgrade dishes
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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Hello Daniel
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Tom... isn't putting a barrier to entry the point?
No. Not when I'm
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I agree somewhat on the licensed gear needing to step it up a bit. Chuck
refers to needing 100 MHz (a pair of 50 MHz channels) to do a licensed
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There is a ton of licensed 6 GHz systems already deployed
, 2008 6:10 PM
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a
bit higher than that used to surf porn?
If you've ever manned the phones during an outage
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I agree somewhat on the licensed gear needing to step it up a bit. Chuck
refers to needing 100 MHz
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Brad,
Your right... I think its only been available for 2 years or so... so I
guess it could become more
General List'wireless@wispa.org
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Hello Mike,
Apples and oranges. You cannot compare UL best effort gear to carrier
class licensed gear. Two different worlds...both clearly have their place.
Chuck touches on this in another
: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:25 AM
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I've always liked the idea of allowing smaller antennas on systems that
have
ATPC. That would allow for much smaller fade margins. By using
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Hello Mike,
Apples and oranges. You cannot compare UL best effort
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Hello Daniel,
A license from the FCC is typically 10yrs on the frequencies we
@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:03 AM
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I agree somewhat on the licensed gear needing to step it up a bit. Chuck
refers to needing 100 MHz (a pair of 50 MHz channels) to do a licensed
link,
and I've never seen
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Interesting as the guys at Micronet advised us not to consider secondary
licenses. Why do it when a secondary license
I didn't write the book.
I read it.
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:31 AM
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Allthough I understand your
favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
I didn't write the book.
I read it.
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Of Brad Belton
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Interesting as the guys at Micronet advised us not to consider secondary
licenses. Why do it when a secondary license could put you
, 2008 10:37 AM
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Actually.
when comparing 5.x UL to 6G licensed, there is no functional difference in
technology.
There is NO reason a 6ghz radio can't be made as efficient as a Orthogon
5.x.
Licensed
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:08 PM
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Probably depends on who you are dealing with... :-)
In a practical sense you shouldn't have to deploy 11GHz secondary as 18GHz
fits that bill nicely. But in most
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:27 PM
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Butch,
Then, the music turned to noise
You hit the nail right on the head, with your
Wireless, Inc
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I can't understand why
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Yes. A bettter use of time and spectrum is to fight for smaller antennas to
be allowed
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:43 PM
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As much as I'd love to be able to use smaller antennas than 6' with 6GHz
that is a real bad idea. It's hard enough finding an available 6GHz freq
pair in some areas
PM
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Ok, that opens up a useful conversation.
Why is that?
11Ghz and 18Ghz have plenty of free channels with 2-4ft antennas.allowed.
I don't see anywhere near as many 6ft antennas hanging on towers as I do
2-4ft
11.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:18 PM
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Ok, that opens up a useful conversation.
Why
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Ok, that opens up a useful conversation.
Why is that?
11Ghz and 18Ghz have plenty
We have an FCC attorney in Virginia do it for us.
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Speaking
-dB Networks
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Ok, that opens up a useful
: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:53 PM
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We have an FCC attorney in Virginia do it for us.
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, 2008 6:02 PM
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Tom... isn't putting a barrier to entry the point?
No. Not when I'm the one that gets prevented from using the spectrum due
to
the barrier to entry.
Telco's (like Chuck) use
6GHz all the time because
of mind.
Best,
Brad
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There is a ton of licensed 6
General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:19 PM
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Tom,
Off the top of my head my guess is the difference is going to be much
greater than 1* between 3' and 6' antennas. Probably two to three times
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a
bit higher than that used to surf porn?
If you've ever manned the phones during an outage, you'd understand
that internet access IS that critical. Either a customer is paying
: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a
bit higher than that used to surf porn?
If you've ever manned the phones during an outage, you'd understand
from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a
bit higher than that used to surf porn?
If you've ever manned the phones during an outage, you'd understand
that internet access IS that critical
applications. Plus have all the perqs of license and exclusivity etc.
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be a bit
higher than that used to surf porn?
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PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
I believe all of Trango's licensed equipment (6ghz, 11ghz, 18ghz, 23ghz) is
the same price.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Moreover, 6 GHz hardware is my most expensive stuff. I can get 11 GHz
?
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From: Travis Johnson
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:51 PM
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We brought down E911 service on a tower 100ft away from our tower with a $150
Mikrotik
: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:51 PM
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We brought down E911 service on a tower 100ft away from our tower with a
$150 Mikrotik board... so that isn't much of a reason
Commissioner Adelstein has long been a pretty good friend of our
industry. In truth, I have not always agreed with him, but
in his comments today he made a couple of statements that were
music to my ears. Then, the music turned to noise
White spaces are the blank pages on which we will
, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
Commissioner Adelstein has long been a pretty good friend of our
industry. In truth, I have not always agreed with him, but
in his comments today he made a couple of statements that were
music to my ears
ot; wireless@wispa.org
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Commissioner Adelstein has long been a pretty good friend of our
industry. In truth, I have not
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