Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
wrote: 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /m...@netking.bz/* wrote: From: Mark Dueckm...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Steve Barnes
I am going to chime in here and say Look at RADWIN 2000c series. I have one pair pushing 80+ MB FDX over 20 mile link. They are more money than UBNT but allot less than Dragonwave and Moto. http://www.radwin.com/Content.aspx?Page=radwin_2000_series 200 Mbps throughput (40 MHz Channel) Native

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I've personally seen someone doing about 98/20. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 10:05 PM, RickG wrote: UBNT is great for the price but a bit shy of 100Mbps: Test Results RX: 33.08 Mbps TX: 33.77 Mbps Total: 66.85 Mbps On

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, MDK rea

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremy Parr
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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
Bailey Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck mailto:m...@netking.bz m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck mailto:m...@netking.bz m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, MDK rea

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I was referring to What would make one think that two radios, with a 16dbi antennas would work well and stable on a 14 mile link using allowable power in 5.X ghz or even 2.4

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/31/2010 09:00 AM, Robert West wrote: Depends on the equipment but the rule of thumb I always was told was to power it up only long enough to disable the radio unless you are using loads. If you don't load the radio and run it long enough, it will indeed be damaged. I have various examples

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread MDK
++ From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've already got

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
On 8/31/2010 11:44 AM, MDK wrote: Even when the radio rates stay up, throughput falls. Haven't seen that. There are some issues as such due to alignment, firmware and Ack settings... that affect all links, medium range long range. To get to higher end of the throughput / over the air

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Marco Coelho
40+each way,for months. --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /m...@netking.bz/* wrote:     From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz     Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.     To: wireless@wispa.org     Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM     I can tell you

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread MDK
internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Bret Clark
On 08/31/2010 06:02 PM, MDK wrote: As the distances go up, the longer it takes for the packet to be transmitted from one point to another, and the round trip time grows, which reduces the throughput. That doesn't sound right to me...radio waves travel at the speed of light. There is some

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I beg to differ with this logic, applying to UBNT only... While generically it is true about the separation... if your logic were true about in-sufficient isolation... then we would not be able to operate a full POP, where there are three Sector Panels and a 2ft Dish, all within the same

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Blair Davis
9-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:49 AM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. On

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
E P I C ! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. At 8/31/2010 09:00 AM, Robert West

[WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread MDK
Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach 25 miles?Want to do full duplex 100 M ethernet connection. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:18 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
For Full Duplex you are looking at Moto PTP500 or equivalent. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
General List Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach 25 miles?    Want to do full duplex 100 M ethernet connection. ++ Neofast, Inc

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 6:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Right, they are all hdx. That's why you need two :) On Aug 30, 2010 8:51 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 6:22 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Philip Dorr
If you can do it, look at 6Ghz. We have a Dragonwave Horizon Compact link going about 34 miles that can push up to 200Mbps full duplex. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mike
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. If you can do it, look at 6Ghz. We have a Dragonwave Horizon Compact link going about 34 miles that can push up to 200Mbps full duplex. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
, 2010 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach 25 miles?    Want to do full duplex 100 M ethernet connection

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Sadly no. At half that distance, yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 6:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Philip Dorr
...@aweiowa.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. If you can do it, look at 6Ghz. We

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread RickG
UBNT is great for the price but a bit shy of 100Mbps: Test Results RX: 33.08 Mbps TX: 33.77 Mbps Total: 66.85 Mbps On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread MDK
, 2010 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:18 PM, MDK rea

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Distance? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Ubnt, stuff will do about 150meg total (under ideal conditions).. which would be about 75x75meg duplex , shy of full 100meg duplex for symmetric traffic. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/30/2010 11:05 PM, RickG wrote: UBNT is great for the price but a bit shy of 100Mbps: Test

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Dueck
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Bailey
14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM I can

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Dueck
28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM I

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
or not. On 08/30/2010 10:06 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /m...@netking.bz/* wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Dueck
, Jason Bailey wrote: 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /m...@netking.bz/* wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org