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From: "RickG"
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:01 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
> OK. So, it appears most feel that it can be handled? I suppose the
> fiber connection I saw drop at a large MTU was
List"
Subject: [WISPA] bit torrents
> Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
> demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I
> being over
> zealous on not allowing torrents? Who her
gt;> They can do what they want, with the following caveats:
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't open more than 20 connections.
>>>>>
>>>>> The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if
>>>>> the
&g
>>>>
>>>> The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if
>>>> the
>>>> thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user im
Yes, I've already experienced this with my MT firewall. But, as you
know, ISPs are always fighting the new bottleneck whether its at the
core or the edge, we just move it around. The never ending battle.
Lol, I just had an email come in from a gamer on my network:
"Rick,
Just wanted to drop you
QOS fixes up the bandwidth you have. Makes things run smoother with the
resources available. It does not conjour additional bandwidth.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
OK. So, it appears most feel that it can be handled? I suppose the
fiber connection I saw drop at a large MTU was due to little to no
QOS?
So QOS will fix everything and we really wont have to worry about this?
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Greg wrote:
> The politics of P2P aside, you'll have
The politics of P2P aside, you'll have to handle that with bandwidth sharing
queues and traffic shaping.
Greg
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:47 PM, RickG wrote:
> Nat'ed? Yes, but not for much longer.
> Usage based billing? Not yet but its coming.
> Network handle it? Interesting question. I've seen
ubject to packet delays if
>>> the
>>> thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed.
>>>
>>> I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the pipe
>>> at the peril of others.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>&g
rg] On
> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>
> I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*
>
> But seriously. I have a play nice policy
Story of my life! Except the MS Dad part :)
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:39 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*
>
> But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting
> other users, we call them and ask them to slow down t
Nat'ed? Yes, but not for much longer.
Usage based billing? Not yet but its coming.
Network handle it? Interesting question. I've seen fiber connections
drop to its knees with torrents. How you gonna handle that?
-RickG
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Greg wrote:
> Is that client nat'ed or does h
ld have if I would have
> used FTP or HTTP.
>
> Justin
>
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> Justin Wilson
> CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced
> http://j2sw.mtin.net/blog
>
>
>
> From: RickG
> Reply-To: WISPA General List
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:54:45 -0500
> To: WISPA General List
et around torrents, even Mikrotik has their updates via torrent.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:55 AM
> To: WISPA General List
ssage-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
Surprised that 20 connections works for you. I hit 75 with just my laptop
open - just simpl
t;
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>
> Only 20 connections? I
x27;ve engineered for the bursty
activity to rule.
Mike
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
Only 20 connections? I
n...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Cc: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>>
>> I allow it at 4kbps... For the enti
gt; Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>
> I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*
>
> But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting
&
mpact the pipe
at the peril of others.
Mike
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
I allow
I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*
But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting
other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads
so they don't piss off thier neighbors.
My wife called one of our customers to ask th
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> Justin Wilson
> CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced
> http://j2sw.mtin.net/blog
>
>
>
> From: RickG
> Reply-To: WISPA General List
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:54:45 -0500
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] bit torrents
>
> Even though our AUP & TOS
Is that client nat'ed or does he have his own IP address so you'll know the
cease and desist order is for him when it comes? Is your billing usage
based? Can your network handle folks doing bittorrent? I think if all
answers are "yes" then you could consider allowing it. If any answers are
"no" the
torrent than I would have if I would have
used FTP or HTTP.
Justin
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Justin Wilson
CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced
http://j2sw.mtin.net/blog
From: RickG
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:54:45 -0500
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] bit torrents
Even though
] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] bit torrents
Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I
being over
zealous on not allowing torr
Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I
being over
zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them?
-RickG
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