Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have plenty of VOIP customers behind my Trango network. I'm also getting excellent results using Targeted Technologies proprietary 8K stream VOIP even over my 900Mhz Trango. Trango has plenty of processing power and pps performance to do VOIP. The relevent question is, is the

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Doug: I believe the other key factor is your RF environment I’m transmitting 1-3 miles over a salt water ¾ mile wide river. Assuming you are using RF planning tools, You may want to tweak your RF link path analysis. F --- Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have plenty of VOIP

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bandwidth+iax2 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Verizon has several deployments of Alvarion gear out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:37 PM Subject:

RE: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Justin S. Wilson
I have been on towers with Verizon gear on them and Alvarion gear alongside. Not sure what they were using them for but they were there. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB:

RE: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
But in the same sense, its not as cut and dry as oversubscription. If it were, then a 5Mbps/5Mbps ratio could give me 103 calls/Mbit (IAX2/G729) but in reality, that's 100k PPS per 100 calls, making it unworkable. But at the same token, if I decide 15 concurrent calls @ G711 per AP is a usable

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
www.verizonavenue.com http://www.alvarion.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2918/ http://www.alvarion.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2984/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
IAX2 trunking is your savior. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango VOIP But

RE: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
So IAX2 is capable of packaging multiple phone calls into 1500 byte ethernet packets? I mean, G729 is 300 bytes, if 4 calls plus overhead became one packet, then it sounds like it is the solution for wireless. I wonder if an Asterisk IAX/SIP converter with linux for QOS can be loaded onto a SBC

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Matt Liotta
Doug Ratcliffe wrote: So IAX2 is capable of packaging multiple phone calls into 1500 byte ethernet packets? I mean, G729 is 300 bytes, if 4 calls plus overhead became one packet, then it sounds like it is the solution for wireless. I wonder if an Asterisk IAX/SIP converter with linux for QOS

[WISPA] muni business models working?

2007-07-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
http://www.telecommagazine.com/newsglobe/article.asp?HH_ID=AR_3265 marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.
What kills it is NOT the bandwidth. What kills it is the I/O's. Each box's CPU can only handle so many I/O requests per second. Each stream is at least 1 I/O request. That's how it is determined. Asterisk can handle 1000 calls per server IF the server can handle that many I/O requests AND if

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.
Verizon Avenue is the MDU division for VZ. It is the triple-play to the multi-tenant dwelling like dorms. Regards, Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. 4isps.com Mike Hammett wrote: www.verizonavenue.com http://www.alvarion.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2918/

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.
Since you can load Asterisk on anything including a Linksys router, then you could probably load a version on a WRAP board. - Peter Doug Ratcliffe wrote: So IAX2 is capable of packaging multiple phone calls into 1500 byte ethernet packets? I mean, G729 is 300 bytes, if 4 calls plus

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
http://telephonyonline.com/wireless/technology/verizon_avenue_fixed_081205/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:41 PM

Re: [WISPA] muni business models working?

2007-07-03 Thread Zack Kneisley
interesting read, thanks On 7/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.telecommagazine.com/newsglobe/article.asp?HH_ID=AR_3265 marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Tom: I'm glad you posted the weblink. The Verizon/FibreTower announcment is part of the large GSA RFP Networx Universal and Networx Enterprise RFP, whereby ATT, Qwest Communications and Verizon won spots on Universal. The same three companies also got places on Enterprise, along with Sprint and

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread George Rogato
I've seen it mentioned on the asterisk newsgroup that someone has in fact loaded asterisk on a wrap board Peter R. wrote: Since you can load Asterisk on anything including a Linksys router, then you could probably load a version on a WRAP board. - Peter Doug Ratcliffe wrote: So IAX2 is

[WISPA] DirectTV, EchoStar Tab Clearwire For Wireless Web

2007-07-03 Thread RickG
June 15, 2007 DirectTV, EchoStar Tab Clearwire For Wireless Web By Clint Boulton Watch out cable: here comes satellite. Satellite TV giants DirectTV (Quote) and EchoStar Communications (Quote) said they have agreed to offer their customers Clearwire's (Quote) wireless Internet service later

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
But can systems like Mikrotik for QOS adequately pack the packets over the wireless Good Question, that I do not have the answer to. I had thought that there was some trade off in latency doing the packet combining on slow processor boards. One of the big reasons, I have been an advocate for

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
unless you aren't using Asterix :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Doug R
I could certainly see how Trango could be superior to other multi-modulation systems. Others would up and down speed, affecting overall performance while Trango is going to be either working or dropping packets (which only affects one customer, with ARQ off). I am close to picking Trango but

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
I was aware of Verizon's work with Unlicensed Fixed Wireless to Rural areas. What was unique about the Fiber tower Press Release that I posted is that Verizon is jumping on board to deliver Licensed Fixed Wireless which likely will target High ARPU business in Urban and Suburban markets also,

Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Felix, Thanks for the follow up post. It sheds some additional light on what its all about. I wonder if that GSA contract (Networx Universal) has a small business set aside portion included. Required of the winners to subcontract to? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed

Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
5.7-5.8 is not enough on its own. You also need 5.3Ghz or 5.4Ghz solution. Thats why we still are spending time with OEM gear like ADI, Mikrotik, StarOS, Deliberant, and similar certified gear. Its for 5.3Ghz. Trango and Alvarion have been great for our Super Cells and 5.8Ghz. Tom DeReggi