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I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was
thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k,
What are the options?
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
Is terrabeam still in business?
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From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:14 AM
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I have to propose a half mile 100
This is well out of your budget for this project, but we recently put up a
BridgeWave 80GHz with 2' antennas. Nice gear aside from the rinky-dink ODU
enclosure. Pretty amazing to see a product at that price level with a
plastic single edge housing seal with one center thumb screw holding the lid
I think they are proxim now ...
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:38 AM
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Done a good quantity of BridgeWave and have had no issues with water
incursion. Did a dual 80 Ghz. (one of the first deployments :-P )
last year. 2 links running side by side with less than 100 ft
separation (factory wanted 400+ feet but the cost to make the
building wider prohibited
Sorry..That should have been Terror Beam :-)
Bob Moldashel
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It won't get you to 1Gbps, but Trango has their Giga links on sale
for about $10k. That is 100Mbps full duplex, then another $1500 gets
you a software upgrade key to 300Mbps full duplex.
That would be a licensed link at 18GHz.
(let us know what you end up with)
On April 30, at 10:14 AM
How do you optimally divide a 4.9 public safety network for bandwidth
planning for, say, a city police or fire department?
(I'm googling for resources that help tell where to find the appropriate
bandwidth / channel, but don't see anything good.)
Anyone got any they can sell me ?
I need to use an access point w/N connector on a base station and I need
4 CPE's, self enclosed.
If you can help, offlist please...
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Does anyone server Oakland, Maryland?
Please contact me offlist.
Thanks,
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We would advise use of 5 MHz channels for starters, and preferably
tighter mask gear since you'll get high capacity at long range in a
small channel. Low mask gear's capacity dies at very close range since
the allowed
So what types of rates would be appropriate for a metered broadband service?
It obviously depends on what your costs are. I'll just throw something out to
start a conversation, not necessarily reflective of any costs.
$2/gig transferred, no other costs or limits.
$10 base, $1.50/gig
Half my customers have pulled less than 1G since April 16 or so when I
started tracking it. I'll be optimistic and think they would all do 1G
per month. I don't think I am going to drop a $33 per month customer
down to $2 per month.
I might consider $30 base and $2/G over X/Gig, but I haven't
Hi,
Although it's a great thought, I don't think "metered" broadband will
ever catch on in the US. Even the cell phone companies are moving to an
"unlimited voice/data/SMS package for only $99" service pricing. My
power company will do a "level-pay" program on my power after being
activated
I agree mosth customers havn't hit 1GB transfer for this year. But what
about the customer that downloaded 25GB last week? I have a few of those.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Those are the ones you give your competition.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I agree mosth customers havn't hit 1GB transfer for this year. But what
about the customer that downloaded 25GB last week? I have a few of those.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
Haven't done 1 GB this YEAR? Are you sure anything's there? I wouldn't be
surprised if I've had a GB of traffic used up just in script kiddies port
scanning.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Kurt Fankhauser
You call them and say We have noticed very heavy activity on your
account. Your current package does not permit that type of activity. We
do have a package that allows that type of activity, and it is $xx per
month.
Travis
Microserv
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I agree mosth customers havn't hit
oh, I'm not having any issues with excessive customers. I use more (excluding
my friend) than 30 other customers combined.
Discussions on another list prompted me to ask around about this.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Cell phones and some telecom companies are the only things where you can get an
all you can eat.
Note: I'm just playing devil's advocate and providing countering points from
other lists to see what others can bring to the conversation.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
I am not sure what the costs should or will be? But...I will say that is where
I think broadband will be headed, for sure, if the FCC keeps going the way they
are headed(since the Comcast deal) with the completely open concept, such as
no bandwidth shaping of any sort.
Even the BIG players
Most of those are heavily funded and can operate at that point for a while.
Wait till they see 80% of their customers using 18,000 minutes of off network
minutes a month and see what happens! That's 300 hours a month that I used to
see on dial-up usage of many customers.
Scott
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I think things are going the other way... cell phones now have
"unlimited" plans. Long distance can now be purchased as "unlimited".
The water at my home and business (separate towns and utilities) are
both "unlimited".
Your local dial-tone has been unlimited for how many years?
Travis
Question:
If you are privately owned and have received no federal (or otherwise)
money for your network AND it is spelled out in your contract, could the
FCC actually tell you you have to run wide open / allow any app? If so,
where would the line get drawn (Universities, Libraries, etc...)?
Music industry is not going to sit back and let the FCC pass a law that will
prohibit ISP'S from blocking P2P. I got P2P blocked from noon to midnight.
Some kid calls me up wondering why his limewire won't connect. I say try it
after midnight. He says well hows that gonna work for me I tell him,
Have you considered $19/mo for 1 Gig, $39/mo for 5 Gig and $59/mo for 10
Gig +$x per gig over what they normally pay?
Another thought is do the tiers, and throttle them after they hit a
point, after 1 gig, then you get throttled to 64k for the rest of the month.
John
Mike Hammett wrote:
So
I think that's the catch phrase... "open" meaning, not blocked. So
don't block p2p or any other traffic, just throttle it down... WAY
down...
Travis
Scottie Arnett wrote:
Jason,
My TOS do the same thing, but just do a search about Comcast blocking Vuze(bittorrent) and see what has been
Jason,
My TOS do the same thing, but just do a search about Comcast blocking
Vuze(bittorrent) and see what has been happening over the last few months.
First the FCC said it was a matter of them not having a statement of shaping
traffic in their TOS, now it has come to that any provider
Good idea!
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:54 PM
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Subject: Re:
Travis Johnson wrote:
I think things are going the other way... cell phones now have
"unlimited" plans. Long distance can now be purchased as "unlimited".
The water at my home and business (separate towns and utilities) are
both "unlimited".
Your local dial-tone has been unlimited for
There are arguments for flat rate and for metered for most utilities and
services. All you can eat attracts people who don't want to worry
about overages, where tiered usage plans cater to the penny-pincher who
knows exactly how much (or little) he needs. For a service provider it
is much
My customers on average consume about 5 gigs each.
I suspect 10% use about 75% of the traffic.
insert witty tagline here
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:23 PM
What ever you do decide to charge on a bit cap metered unit price plan,
start the base fee off at the competitive market price and then work
backwards to determine how much transfer is included.
An example:
if you like $2.00 per gig unit price, and the typical market price in
your area is say
Bryan,
In most part, I agree with your reasoning. For legitamate things, such as WOW's
maker's (used to be Blizzard I think) updates, their is nothing stopping them
from offering their updates via ftp, but no...they prefer to offer it via
bittorrent that brings our wirelesss connections down
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