Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Ihnen
One reason to avoid WDS is to have some redundancy - each AP is an island. If 
you use WDS and have three AP's (A, B, and C) and they're all wired to the 
router and one AP goes down you still have all the others working. If you're 
using WDS and the topology is such that AP A is the only one connected to the 
router and it feeds AP B which  feeds AP C and if you lose AP A the whole 
network is down since the other two AP's would have no connection to the 
internet. If instead AP A is still good but you lose AP B then both B and 
C are down since AP C has no connection to the internet.

Plus there's the loss of bandwidth with all the repeating going on with WDS.

Greg

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:22 PM, RickG wrote:

 How about saving all the effort of hardwiring and use WDS and not
 hardwire - any drawbacks?
 (I've never used WDS and looking for an excuse :)
 
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 WDS is for repeating an AP's clients through another AP.
 
 Since you are hardwiring each AP (best), there is no need for WDS.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:38 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel
 
 Why not WDS?
 
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 same ssid = yes
 same channel = no. use 1, 6, 11
 wds = no
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 
 I have a hotel that it takes 3 AP to cover well.  I am going to use
 3 MT411 all wired back to a RB450 router for hotspot.  I plan to set
 all the 411 to bridged and all the same channel and SSID.  Is this
 the best way.  Is there any reason to do WDS?
 
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Re: [WISPA] logmein.com - hamachi

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Ihnen
I use Witopia's VPN and they let you choose between a couple of common ports 
(443 and I forget the other). They use common ports in the hopes that nobody is 
blocking them along the way because if someone blocked those ports it would 
break something important.

Greg

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:15 PM, RickG wrote:

 Ya, thats what I read too. I'm hoping someone had a thought why it
 would possibly use port 25.
 
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Looks like it uses 17771/udp
 
 http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Firewall:General
 
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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 that counts.”
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 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Since having a rash of customers with viruses causing their email
 software to spam, I've been sensitive when high port 25 usage shows up
 on the firewall. I've got a customer who recently had the issue but
 claimed it was not a virus since he uses a mac. He said it was his vpn
 software causing it and sure enough when he turned it off the problem
 went away. I'm still skeptical since I dont see where they utilize
 port 25 on their
 websitehttps://secure.logmein.com/US/support/hamachi2/
 Any thoughts?
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Glenn Kelley
Bob 

I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that service as 
well... 

The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)
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On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:

 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
 Bob-




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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Glenn Kelley
To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:  
http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 


5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
5.1 Customer’s use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the 
Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and the terms of 
this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether for a 
fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use of the 
Service other than for Customer’s internal business purposes, unless otherwise 
agreed in writing by TWC. 


If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under the sun 
in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get the same deal. 





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On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:

 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that service 
 as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)
 _
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Palm Beach Gardens, FL

2010-03-04 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Does anybody have access in that area? I have a customer looking for
8-10Mb to a hotel. Prefers wireless as they would like something in
place in 2-3 weeks. Will go wireline if it's the only option.

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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
I knew I saw that in there.  I thought I remember someone going to jail
and/or getting sued by Comcast for doing something similar.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 


5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
5.1 Customer's use of the Service (including all content transmitted via
the Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and
the terms of this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or
redistribute (whether for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any
portion thereof, or make any use of the Service other than for
Customer's internal business purposes, unless otherwise agreed in
writing by TWC. 


If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under
the sun in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get
the same deal. 






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  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.

On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:

 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that
service as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)


_
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is
that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.
It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road
Runner folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to
go look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up
service and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and
since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their
regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field
not near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales
person to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router
on the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Stuart Pierce
90 a meg

-- Original Message --
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:25:39 -0500

What is everyone in Central Ohio paying for Time Warner bandwidth weather it
be on their Fiber or Business Class Cable ???

 

Or what have you been quoted.

 

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WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-04 Thread Alan Long
We went down the road of having the same ssid on each ap at a hotel were
serve. It is 6 floors and we have 18 ap's throughout. Out of those there are
only 12 that have hard wire connections(we are unable to run any new cat5),
the others link via wds. We try and setup the wds so that the unwired units
are only one hop from a wired unit. Note we are using inherited cisco ap for
most of the locations and some pico2, that we added for better coverage. 
When we set ssid the same for everything, we had all kinds of issues, what
we saw was windows changing ap's automatically if it got a better signal
from another ap, thus dropping the connection and reconnecting. We decided
to name each ap for the room it is located, that way the users could lock
into an ap. It does also help with trouble shooting when someone calls in
saying they can't connect.
I did see post about what is the main issue most users have, that little
switch to turn off/on the wireless cards. That is our number 1 issue we see.


Aerowire
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alan.l...@aerowire.net
687 North Dean Road
Auburn, AL 36830
tel: 3342759998
mobile: 336092


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel

We've gone back and forth between using the same SSID and numbered SSIDs
(e.g. Hotel Name 1, Hotel Name 2).  The benefit to the latter is that
it's easier to troubleshoot a broken AP, given that you have a map of
room and AP locations.  If people in room X can't see the AP with the
SSID Hotel Name 2 even though you know they're right next to it, then
you know you have a problem with an AP.  You lose the ability for hotel
guests to roam without disconnecting, but that probably doesn't happen
very often.  If all the SSIDs are the same, then you have to get the
BSSID somehow to determine which AP they're on or can see.


-Kristian


On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:41 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 same ssid = yes
 same channel = no. use 1, 6, 11
 wds = no
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 
  I have a hotel that it takes 3 AP to cover well.  I am going to use  
  3 MT411 all wired back to a RB450 router for hotspot.  I plan to set  
  all the 411 to bridged and all the same channel and SSID.  Is this  
  the best way.  Is there any reason to do WDS?
 
  Steve Barnes
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-04 Thread Robert West
When I set one up, I don't have them in one chain.  Normally I would have
the gateway in the electrical room and associate APs to the left and to the
right and to one upstairs.  3 branches normally.  If one section goes down
the others can normally be used dep0ending on the signal.  But honestly, I
haven't had any issues with any of the installs except when the hotel
employees decide to hit reset buttons.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel

One reason to avoid WDS is to have some redundancy - each AP is an island.
If you use WDS and have three AP's (A, B, and C) and they're all wired to
the router and one AP goes down you still have all the others working. If
you're using WDS and the topology is such that AP A is the only one
connected to the router and it feeds AP B which  feeds AP C and if you
lose AP A the whole network is down since the other two AP's would have no
connection to the internet. If instead AP A is still good but you lose AP
B then both B and C are down since AP C has no connection to the
internet.

Plus there's the loss of bandwidth with all the repeating going on with WDS.

Greg

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:22 PM, RickG wrote:

 How about saving all the effort of hardwiring and use WDS and not
 hardwire - any drawbacks?
 (I've never used WDS and looking for an excuse :)
 
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 WDS is for repeating an AP's clients through another AP.
 
 Since you are hardwiring each AP (best), there is no need for WDS.
 
 -Original Message-
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Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:38 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel
 
 Why not WDS?
 
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 same ssid = yes
 same channel = no. use 1, 6, 11
 wds = no
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 
 I have a hotel that it takes 3 AP to cover well.  I am going to use
 3 MT411 all wired back to a RB450 router for hotspot.  I plan to set
 all the 411 to bridged and all the same channel and SSID.  Is this
 the best way.  Is there any reason to do WDS?
 
 Steve Barnes
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Robert West
I actually sent the same paragraph to our sales person at TW back when I
started using them and pointed that out.  That's when I insisted that he
contact his big shots about it.  The answer that came back was that my
Internal Business is indeed the reselling of bandwidth thus it was
allowed.  So I guess the In Writing is pretty much what they sent back to
us.

Again, the only stipulation to the Home Based Business rate was that it not
be installed at a commercial address.  I'm on my second TW salesperson now
and the new person knows what we do as well.

Bob-
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 


5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
5.1 Customer's use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the
Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and the terms
of this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether
for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use
of the Service other than for Customer's internal business purposes, unless
otherwise agreed in writing by TWC. 


If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under the
sun in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get the same
deal. 






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On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:

 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that
service as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)


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  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner
folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go
look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service
and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and
since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their
regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not
near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person
to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on
the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman

2010-03-04 Thread Mac Dearman
All right Patrick - I resemble that :-)

And I am bigger around than ever Walter.

Mac



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 Geez, don't use a subject like that. Makes me think that I'm going to
 read something bad.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Robert West
Okay, found my TW crap.  

Here's part of what I sent to our salesperson.

.I was going over one of the service contracts that I have with Time
Warner for one of the hotels I do data services for and I see where it
states in paragraph 4, listed as Customer Obligations.

Customer agrees not to resell or make any use of the Service other than for
Customer's internal business purposes.

We will be using this bandwidth for our local wireless internet service
(Wisp) to add to our current services.  I know that you and I talked about
that but I didn't pull out one of the service contracts to read it until
now.  Let me know if this is all still okay and also the timeline on the
install.

My answer was..

Robert your concern about resale of bandwidth is not a problem. I checked
and Time Warner only requires that whoever is considering selling bandwidth
just needs to become a commercial account which you are.


Again, hotels and hotspots resell bandwidth.  You just have to get something
in writing from Time Warner saying that it's cool.

Bob-

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 


5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
5.1 Customer's use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the
Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and the terms
of this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether
for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use
of the Service other than for Customer's internal business purposes, unless
otherwise agreed in writing by TWC. 


If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under the
sun in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get the same
deal. 






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On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:

 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that
service as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)


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 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner
folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go
look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service
and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and
since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their
regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not
near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person
to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on
the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 



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[WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Robert West
I made mine from a cable winch.  Removed the cable, put some rosin on the
hub, wrapped the rope around it 3 times and worked like a charm.  Just had
to have a person on the ground pull the slack off the hub so the rope
wouldn't foul.  100 bucks from TSC.  Specs say not to run it more than 5
minutes without cooling off but never had any trouble from it.  I only
needed it for one job and couldn't find one to rent.  

Bob-



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Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Brad Belton
We looked into this a couple years ago when we faced installing several 4' 
6' antennas on top of four water towers.  After a hard look at it and even
giving a try at raising one 4' antenna ourselves (just to see if we could)
we quickly decided it was far more economical to hire a tower crew.  Those
guys are pros and do this kind of thing every day.  The planning, rigging
and proper evaluation of what ifs is what takes the time.  The actual
raising of the antenna only takes a couple minutes.

Once you factor in all the proper rigging required to safely raise antennas
that size up a couple hundred feet without damaging the tower etc, I think
you may come to the same conclusion.

Three foot antennas are one thing, but once you get to four footers or
larger it definitely gets more complicated.  

Best,


Brad
 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:13 AM
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

Gino A. Villarini

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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

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[WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations

2010-03-04 Thread Lists
A few months back there was a tread about this, but I can't seem to locate
it.

 

It is about a company that is manufacturing prefab foundations for tower
sites.  Anyone have a link or experience?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman

2010-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Just glad to know you are around. Hey, that's works as a pun. 


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman

All right Patrick - I resemble that :-)

And I am bigger around than ever Walter.

Mac



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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman
 
 Geez, don't use a subject like that. Makes me think that I'm going to 
 read something bad.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Reed
Is everything you have twisted, or do you have some braided?

Blake Bowers wrote:

 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale


 Lets see these fancy pictures


 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:00 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale

 Twisted or braided?

 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com 
 wrote:
 As I do not normally sell rope, but this is a great deal for the 
 benefit of
 WISP's, I hope that this posting one time will be acceptable.

 If not, please state my punishment so I can take it like a man.


 ROPE FOR SALE

 I have about 300 rolls available of 3/8 propylene rope.  1200 foot on a
 roll,
 all NOS - in original shipping boxes on spools.

 This can be had in black or in that special yellow.  (Everyone knows 
 how
 special
 yellow rope is, sort of like a yellow housecat...)

 Tug with it, pull with it, lift with it, tag with it.  Works great.

 Did I mention it was NEW old stock?

 Now - the best part.  $100.00 per roll.  Can you believe the 
 madness? How
 can
 he sell it so low you ask?  Cause it's crazy Blakes, and we are 
 positively
 INSANE!

 We can even offer quanity discounts at over 20 rolls.

 Shipping will be from the actual shipping quote - or you can pick up 
 - or I
 can
 deliver if you are in my forecast travels (pretty much only in 
 Missouri and
 Oklahoma this month).  You can also buy the rope and just abandon it
 also

 Rope is located in southern Missouri.

 Pictures are available in case you have not seen such rope before.

 Payment is via paypal upon order of rope.

 Please reply to bl...@frostytowers.com for timely reply, or 
 417-293-0773

 *

 Legal warning.  Use of such rope demands proper training in its 
 handling,
 storage, care, and use.  Failure to have that knowledge does not 
 constitute
 failure on our part to warn you or to prepare you for the ownership 
 of such
 rope.  Although use of rope as a sexual aid is done, we are not 
 suggesting
 that it be used as such, nor are we suggesting that you do not use 
 it as
 such.  Practice safe rope.  Peeing up a rope is still not suggested 
 in any
 way.  Use of this rope as a end to it all is never suggested.  This 
 rope is
 NOT suitable for pushing UP a tower.  Your mileage may vary, void where
 prohibited, do not remove tag under penalty of law.

 *
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Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale

2010-03-04 Thread Blake Bowers
Everything I have is exactly what is in the pictures, save for the color 
difference.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale


 Is everything you have twisted, or do you have some braided?

 Blake Bowers wrote:

 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale


 Lets see these fancy pictures


 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:00 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope for sale

 Twisted or braided?

 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
 wrote:
 As I do not normally sell rope, but this is a great deal for the
 benefit of
 WISP's, I hope that this posting one time will be acceptable.

 If not, please state my punishment so I can take it like a man.


 ROPE FOR SALE

 I have about 300 rolls available of 3/8 propylene rope.  1200 foot on a
 roll,
 all NOS - in original shipping boxes on spools.

 This can be had in black or in that special yellow.  (Everyone knows
 how
 special
 yellow rope is, sort of like a yellow housecat...)

 Tug with it, pull with it, lift with it, tag with it.  Works great.

 Did I mention it was NEW old stock?

 Now - the best part.  $100.00 per roll.  Can you believe the
 madness? How
 can
 he sell it so low you ask?  Cause it's crazy Blakes, and we are
 positively
 INSANE!

 We can even offer quanity discounts at over 20 rolls.

 Shipping will be from the actual shipping quote - or you can pick up
 - or I
 can
 deliver if you are in my forecast travels (pretty much only in
 Missouri and
 Oklahoma this month).  You can also buy the rope and just abandon it
 also

 Rope is located in southern Missouri.

 Pictures are available in case you have not seen such rope before.

 Payment is via paypal upon order of rope.

 Please reply to bl...@frostytowers.com for timely reply, or
 417-293-0773

 *

 Legal warning.  Use of such rope demands proper training in its
 handling,
 storage, care, and use.  Failure to have that knowledge does not
 constitute
 failure on our part to warn you or to prepare you for the ownership
 of such
 rope.  Although use of rope as a sexual aid is done, we are not
 suggesting
 that it be used as such, nor are we suggesting that you do not use
 it as
 such.  Practice safe rope.  Peeing up a rope is still not suggested
 in any
 way.  Use of this rope as a end to it all is never suggested.  This
 rope is
 NOT suitable for pushing UP a tower.  Your mileage may vary, void where
 prohibited, do not remove tag under penalty of law.

 *
 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.



 

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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Glenn Kelley
Gotcha... 

I when I read it was for backup bandwidth thought - h that is kinda nice... 
for the datacenter - not the wisp stuff I would love to have a backup link that 
only cost $89 
even just for our own use... but they frowned on that... 

Mid Ohio region even... 

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On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:

 I actually sent the same paragraph to our sales person at TW back when I
 started using them and pointed that out.  That's when I insisted that he
 contact his big shots about it.  The answer that came back was that my
 Internal Business is indeed the reselling of bandwidth thus it was
 allowed.  So I guess the In Writing is pretty much what they sent back to
 us.
 
 Again, the only stipulation to the Home Based Business rate was that it not
 be installed at a commercial address.  I'm on my second TW salesperson now
 and the new person knows what we do as well.
 
 Bob-
 
 
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 Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:58 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio
 
 To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
 If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
 http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 
 
 
 5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
 5.1 Customer's use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the
 Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and the terms
 of this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether
 for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use
 of the Service other than for Customer's internal business purposes, unless
 otherwise agreed in writing by TWC. 
 
 
 If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under the
 sun in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get the same
 deal. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 _
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
 
 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that
 service as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)
 
 
 _
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
 Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner
 folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go
 look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service
 and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and
 since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their
 regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not
 near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person
 to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on
 the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations

2010-03-04 Thread lakeland
Really?   


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Re: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't appear you got the message...

It was asked

A few months back there was a tread about this, but I can't seem to locate
it.



It is about a company that is manufacturing prefab foundations for tower
sites.  Anyone have a link or experience?



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Re: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations

2010-03-04 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I found it:
http://www.oldcastleprecast.com/products/Documents/CellBlocks.pdf

V

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations

Doesn't appear you got the message...

It was asked

A few months back there was a tread about this, but I can't seem to locate
it.



It is about a company that is manufacturing prefab foundations for tower
sites.  Anyone have a link or experience?



Thanks!



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Direct: 937-552-2343
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[WISPA] 477 data uses/sharing

2010-03-04 Thread jp
Some more insight into allowed uses and sharing for 477 data.

-Jason

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Maine Communications Service Providers:


Section 3 of the ConnectME Authority rule requires that all 
communications service providers file copies of the FCC Form 477 with 
the Authority.

The ConnectME Authority rule says that the Authority can waive any of 
the rule requirements upon a request of any person subject to the rule 
or on its own motion.

Below is a waiver request from FairPoint Communications to waive the 
Form 477 filing requirement.
 
Currently, the ConnectME Authority gets copies of the Form 477 data from 
providers as required by our statute, but due to changes the FCC made to 
allow online electronic filings, what we now get from most providers is 
scanned page prints of the online submissions.  A somewhat unusable 
format.
 
To alleviate that problem, I am checking into getting secure, 
confidential access from the FCC to state specific electronic 477 data, 
as the Maine PUC now has.  From the FCC website, Separately, the 
Commission is resolving terms of access to Form 477 data by entities - 
including state commissions - that are eligible for mapping grants under 
the Broadband Data Improvement Act (BDIA) As the Authority is the 
designated entity eligible for the grants, and has actually been awarded 
a grant, I believe direct access by the Authority is much more efficient 
and less burdensome on the providers.

The Authority will deliberate the waiver request at its next meeting, 
March 16, 2010, 1 PM.  Any comments or questions should be sent to me 
before that date.

 

Thanks, Phil

Phillip Lindley 
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Phil: Pursuant to Chapter 101 §8 of the ConnectME Authority's rules, 
FairPoint Communications would like to request a waiver of §3 which 
requires communications providers to file their FCC Form 477s with the 
Authority.  We make this request on behalf of FairPoint's NNE Group and 
its Telecom Group (Classic properties).

There are two reasons why FairPoint is making this request.  First, it 
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from the federal website and prepared in a format appropriate for filing 
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ConnectME Authority has currently undertaken a broadband mapping project 
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germane.

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[WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the 
CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it 
on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference.

I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Networking question

2010-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
Your old provider may be trying to have the gateway for your new IPs
on their router instead of routing them to your router.

IE, your old setup probably looked like this:
Provider router-/30-Your router-/24 for your customers.

New setup would be:
Provider router-/24-Your router(NAT)-different /24

Personally, I'd ask the provider to route your IPs to your router over
a /30 so you can split them up as needed. We would refuse any circuit
where the provider didn't do that.
-Jon

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 I know my fair share of networking but I leave our cisco routers to
 the professionals. One question. Not very long ago we switched to a
 new backbone provider. Before I could assign public IP addresses
 directly to routers or cpe. Now my netowrk guy said we have to do
 static nat. Why would this be?

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Baird
I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the 
dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my 
Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this 
weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of 
BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so 
far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have 
some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, 
dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to 
that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 
16/120/H's.

Regards
Michael Baird
 Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the 
 CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
 hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying 
 it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to 
 interference.

 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Jayson Baker
We use a lot of Loco2's - as you mention, they work great.

We're starting to deploy a lot of AirMax 5GHz stuff - it works even better.
 We regularly see customers getting speedtest of 80Mbps (down and up).
 Latency is good.  We're in a very heavily crowded 5GHz area, and it doesn't
seem to affect it at all once you turn on AirMax.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

  Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?



 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and
 the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.



 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series
 hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying
 it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to
 interference.



 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one 
antenna)?



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Michael Baird
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the 
dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my 
Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this 
weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of 
BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so 
far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have 
some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, 
dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to 
that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 
16/120/H's.

Regards
Michael Baird
 Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the 
 CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
 hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying 
 it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to 
 interference.

 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
MIMO I think assumes two chains, two antennas.

Still, 802.11n in one 20mhz single channel,chain (should be) better
then 802.11a or g in one 20 mhz channel.

Is that not right?

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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one 
 antenna)?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Michael Baird
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

 I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the
 dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my
 Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this
 weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of
 BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so
 far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have
 some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal,
 dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to
 that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo
 16/120/H's.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and 
 the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
 hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying 
 it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to 
 interference.

 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed


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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

 Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one 
 antenna)?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Michael Baird
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

 I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the
 dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my
 Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this
 weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of
 BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so
 far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have
 some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal,
 dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to
 that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo
 16/120/H's.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and 
 the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M 
 series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game 
 for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and 
 resistence to interference.

 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Baird
Jerry,

Yes, although we aren't using NS2-loco's on the airmax deployment, only 
BulletM's w/panel or grid and Nanostation 2 M's, per availability. 
That's why I said I'm looking forward to having the dual chains with the 
MIMO sectors into the future (they weren't available when we built this 
tower but we wanted to make sure our CPE's were airmax ready).

Regards
Michael Baird
 Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one 
 antenna)?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Michael Baird
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

 I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the 
 dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my 
 Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this 
 weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of 
 BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so 
 far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have 
 some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, 
 dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to 
 that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 
 16/120/H's.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
   
 Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

 We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and 
 the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

 The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
 hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying 
 it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to 
 interference.

 I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-04 Thread RickG
How about doing the same with your towers?
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've always used WDS and the same SSIDs in the hotels.  Never had an issue
 with it.

 Bob-


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 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:40 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel

 I've always numbered the AP SSID's. Never tried using same SSID's.
 Doesnt it cause issues if you do?

 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:
 We've gone back and forth between using the same SSID and numbered SSIDs
 (e.g. Hotel Name 1, Hotel Name 2).  The benefit to the latter is that
 it's easier to troubleshoot a broken AP, given that you have a map of
 room and AP locations.  If people in room X can't see the AP with the
 SSID Hotel Name 2 even though you know they're right next to it, then
 you know you have a problem with an AP.  You lose the ability for hotel
 guests to roam without disconnecting, but that probably doesn't happen
 very often.  If all the SSIDs are the same, then you have to get the
 BSSID somehow to determine which AP they're on or can see.


 -Kristian


 On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:41 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 same ssid = yes
 same channel = no. use 1, 6, 11
 wds = no

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

  I have a hotel that it takes 3 AP to cover well.  I am going to use
  3 MT411 all wired back to a RB450 router for hotspot.  I plan to set
  all the 411 to bridged and all the same channel and SSID.  Is this
  the best way.  Is there any reason to do WDS?
 
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
80Mbps? I'd settle for 1/4 of that.

Mind if I pick your brain a bit?

- How many AP's on the tower?
- RocketM AP's?
- Antenna on the AP?
- AP channel width?
- Distance to nearest CPE
- Distance to furthest CPE?
- CPE device and antenna?
- Average latency under load?

thanks



From: motor...@afmug.com [mailto:motor...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:55 AM
To: motor...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

We use a lot of Loco2's - as you mention, they work great.

We're starting to deploy a lot of AirMax 5GHz stuff - it works even better.  We 
regularly see customers getting speedtest of 80Mbps (down and up).  Latency is 
good.  We're in a very heavily crowded 5GHz area, and it doesn't seem to affect 
it at all once you turn on AirMax.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Jerry Richardson 
jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts?

We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the 
CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well.

The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series 
hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it 
on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference.

I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke.


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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Ihnen
To me the word internal sounds like office/management use. I would assume your 
external business is that which involves the public.

Greg

On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Robert West wrote:

 I actually sent the same paragraph to our sales person at TW back when I
 started using them and pointed that out.  That's when I insisted that he
 contact his big shots about it.  The answer that came back was that my
 Internal Business is indeed the reselling of bandwidth thus it was
 allowed.  So I guess the In Writing is pretty much what they sent back to
 us.
 
 Again, the only stipulation to the Home Based Business rate was that it not
 be installed at a commercial address.  I'm on my second TW salesperson now
 and the new person knows what we do as well.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:58 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio
 
 To help place the issue of reselling to rest.
 If you have a time warner business class (NOT ISP Class) agreement:
 http://www.twcbc.com/corporate/service_agreement.html 
 
 
 5.0 CUSTOMER OBLIGATIONS.   
 5.1 Customer's use of the Service (including all content transmitted via the
 Service) shall comply with all applicable laws and regulations and the terms
 of this Agreement.  Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether
 for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use
 of the Service other than for Customer's internal business purposes, unless
 otherwise agreed in writing by TWC. 
 
 
 If you have this in writing share a copy - as I am sure everyone under the
 sun in Ohio, Kentucky and other states would love to be able to get the same
 deal. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 _
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
 
 Bob 
 
 I had looked hard into their aup and tos as I was interested in that
 service as well... 
 
 The minute you put anyone else on that service you break them.
 Be careful placing that on a public list ;-)
 
 
 _
 Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
 Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 
 On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 n service provided by the fine folks at Time Warner (sigh...)
 is their Home Based Business internet service.  The stipulation is that
 it's installed in or at a home, not a retail or commercial address.  It's
 administered by the Business Class office, not the regular road Runner
 folks
 but the Business Class people have to be educated on it and made to go
 look
 for it if you ask about it.  The bonus is, it's a 15 down, 2 up service
 and
 it goes for 89 bucks.  I have 2 of them installed as a fall back and
 since
 I'm considered Home Based Business it's all cool with their
 regulations.
 One of the services is actually installed along the edge of a field not
 near
 any home, I have it as a solar site.  The account is still with our
 corporate account so the bill comes to the same place.  
 
 Oh, and it comes with one static IP.  If you order, beg the sales person
 to
 throw in another static for free so that you can put your own router on
 the
 thing, their supplied router sucks.
 
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Re: [WISPA] 477 data uses/sharing

2010-03-04 Thread Brian Webster
Jason,
What the state is saying is that as an operator within the State you are
also required to file a report with them in addition to the FCC form 477.
They can use the data they collect but they do not have access to the
official FCC 477 database.



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Behalf Of jp
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 477 data uses/sharing


Some more insight into allowed uses and sharing for 477 data.

-Jason

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Maine Communications Service Providers:


Section 3 of the ConnectME Authority rule requires that all
communications service providers file copies of the FCC Form 477 with
the Authority.

The ConnectME Authority rule says that the Authority can waive any of
the rule requirements upon a request of any person subject to the rule
or on its own motion.

Below is a waiver request from FairPoint Communications to waive the
Form 477 filing requirement.

Currently, the ConnectME Authority gets copies of the Form 477 data from
providers as required by our statute, but due to changes the FCC made to
allow online electronic filings, what we now get from most providers is
scanned page prints of the online submissions.  A somewhat unusable
format.

To alleviate that problem, I am checking into getting secure,
confidential access from the FCC to state specific electronic 477 data,
as the Maine PUC now has.  From the FCC website, Separately, the
Commission is resolving terms of access to Form 477 data by entities -
including state commissions - that are eligible for mapping grants under
the Broadband Data Improvement Act (BDIA) As the Authority is the
designated entity eligible for the grants, and has actually been awarded
a grant, I believe direct access by the Authority is much more efficient
and less burdensome on the providers.

The Authority will deliberate the waiver request at its next meeting,
March 16, 2010, 1 PM.  Any comments or questions should be sent to me
before that date.



Thanks, Phil

Phillip Lindley
Executive Director
ConnectME Authority
78 State House Station
Augusta, ME  04333-0078

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From: Tulk, RoJean [South Portland, ME.] [mailto:rojean.t...@fairpoint.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:50 PM
To: Lindley, Phil
Subject: Form 477 waiver request...

Phil: Pursuant to Chapter 101 §8 of the ConnectME Authority's rules,
FairPoint Communications would like to request a waiver of §3 which
requires communications providers to file their FCC Form 477s with the
Authority.  We make this request on behalf of FairPoint's NNE Group and
its Telecom Group (Classic properties).

There are two reasons why FairPoint is making this request.  First, it
has been noted that the 477 data has not been particularly helpful in
determining broadband availability in Maine.  However, getting the data
from the federal website and prepared in a format appropriate for filing
with the Authority is time-consuming and burdensome.  Second, the
ConnectME Authority has currently undertaken a broadband mapping project
that will show broadband availability throughout the state in granular
detail.  Therefore, the purpose for collecting the 477 data is no longer
germane.

For these reasons, FairPoint respectfully requests the ConnectME
Authority consider waiving this requirement for the current reporting
period and subsequent reporting periods.  Additionally, we would also
request an extension of the March 1 filing deadline to April 1 while the
Authority is considering our waiver request.  Please let me know if you
need additional information.  Thanks very much...  R.

RoJean Tulk - Director of Legislative Relations, Maine
FairPoint Communications | 155 Gannett Drive, South 

[WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Scottie Arnett
Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do not 
say for sure.

TIA,
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[WISPA] Tower light power

2010-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
How often is the power delivered to the tower for the lights NOT 120 vAC?


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP. 

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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
not say for sure.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm thinking that every 802.11 device can be an AP or CPE.

Pretty sure Tranzeo can.  I know Engenius can.  MT semi-can (requires
lvl 4 to do ptmp).

Ruckus/Cisco probably can't.

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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
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 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
Eje,
Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP. 

/ Eje
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Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
not say for sure.

TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Pretty sure they're there...

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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Eje,
 Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
datasheet for it eiter. 
The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new
products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until
earliest end of April. 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Eje,
Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP. 

/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc.
Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
not say for sure.

TIA,
Scottie

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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Mike
I have one of these: http://portablewinch.com/

I use it for all kinds of things.  It needs to pull straight on, not
overhead, so your first pulley needs to be straight on from the unit.

I have moved, pulled, recovered some remarkable things with that unit.  I
even have the skidding cone too to pull trees and deer up out of my timber.

You will need 400' of 1/2' rope to work the 180' tower.

Mike

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Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

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Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-04 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now 
encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is the only 
solution to introduce attenuation?

I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile from the AP. 
With everything at default settings I could only pull about a half meg. We have 
about 20 clients on that AP so far.

-Paul

On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Well if you added attenuation with the silo and polarity it would be
 similar to the window or wall adding attenuation.
 
 When a friend moved in and I needed to mooch Internet from the
 office (three 2.4 10mhz sectors) I just put some books on a jpole
 mount and the ns2 worked quite well.  Wouldn't leave it for an install
 but it worked 99% of the time.
 
 On 3/2/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 They can, I even tested it but I've never had good luck with indoor
 installs. It seems they always have weird issues. Maybe new stuff is
 better?
 
 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I had a customer like this - I just moved the CPE on the inside.  Use that
 rubber stick to the glass mount.  I know the Nanostations can, for your
 sake
 I hope the Locos can too, use a window mount (or wall mount) and put it
 inside the house.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Darn county road is between them and the silo :(
 
 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM,  c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are that close.
 
 -Cameron
 
 I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've got a new
 customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is that it
 drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints from
 anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've already
 have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo has V-Pol
 omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm just
 concerned. Whats the downside?
 -RickG
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread chris cooper
http://www.hoistsdirect.com/MY-TE%20Hoist.htm

We have one of the 300 models.  Works great

Chris Cooper
Intelliwave



I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 






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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-04 Thread MDK
I just put in (24 hours in use) a P2P backhaul from my provider.

Using 2 solid dual pol dishes and a 20 mhz channel over 11 miles, I can't 
swamp the link with a 50 mbit transfer.

It is sitting on a channel that my star-os backhaul would not use 
effectively due to interference, and where my turbo link would max out at 
2700KB one way, this will run 10m one way and 55 the other, and still have 8 
to 18 ms 1500 byte pings across it.

at 11 miles, using 30 db dishes, I have mid 50's RSSI, and as far as I can 
tell, very stable bandwidth.It tends to run at either full speed, or one 
step back.   I've seen it at both.

So far, in P2P, I'm reasonably impressed.

Mark


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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread lakeland
I agree with Brad.  Lifting a 4' dish is like lifting a 13 sq ft piece of 
plywood. 

Be careful. You need to tag this load about 150+ feet from the base of the 
tower to protect other equipment on the tower and your antenna. Very 
unpredictable if not rigged right.

-B-
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-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:45 
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 




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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
Bob, thanks for the advice, care to share a few rigging tips?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I agree with Brad.  Lifting a 4' dish is like lifting a 13 sq ft piece
of plywood. 

Be careful. You need to tag this load about 150+ feet from the base of
the tower to protect other equipment on the tower and your antenna. Very
unpredictable if not rigged right.

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:45 
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 





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Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-04 Thread Ryan Ghering
With all the ubnt gear you can lower the power level via web interface, we
do this often on our gear to provide rock solid links.

Ryan

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote:

 We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now
 encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is the only
 solution to introduce attenuation?

 I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile from the AP.
 With everything at default settings I could only pull about a half meg. We
 have about 20 clients on that AP so far.

 -Paul

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Well if you added attenuation with the silo and polarity it would be
  similar to the window or wall adding attenuation.
 
  When a friend moved in and I needed to mooch Internet from the
  office (three 2.4 10mhz sectors) I just put some books on a jpole
  mount and the ns2 worked quite well.  Wouldn't leave it for an install
  but it worked 99% of the time.
 
  On 3/2/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  They can, I even tested it but I've never had good luck with indoor
  installs. It seems they always have weird issues. Maybe new stuff is
  better?
 
  On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Josh Luthman
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  I had a customer like this - I just moved the CPE on the inside.  Use
 that
  rubber stick to the glass mount.  I know the Nanostations can, for your
  sake
  I hope the Locos can too, use a window mount (or wall mount) and put it
  inside the house.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue
  that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Darn county road is between them and the silo :(
 
  On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM,  c...@midcoast.com wrote:
  Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are that
 close.
 
  -Cameron
 
  I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've got a new
  customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is that it
  drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints from
  anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've
 already
  have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo has V-Pol
  omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm just
  concerned. Whats the downside?
  -RickG
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread ralphlists
I know the regular Pico2 can. I have an HP also and do not remember seetting
it not have the CPE setting as well


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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:34 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
not say for sure.

TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Reed
On any gear I try to get the levels to around -65 and very close both 
directions.  Things just seem to work better that way.
I have also found on most of the Ubiquity SR and XR cards that setting 
the power to 2 points less than max works better than at max no matter 
what the signal level.

Ryan Ghering wrote:
 With all the ubnt gear you can lower the power level via web interface, we
 do this often on our gear to provide rock solid links.

 Ryan

 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote:

   
 We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now
 encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is the only
 solution to introduce attenuation?

 I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile from the AP.
 With everything at default settings I could only pull about a half meg. We
 have about 20 clients on that AP so far.

 -Paul

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 
 Well if you added attenuation with the silo and polarity it would be
 similar to the window or wall adding attenuation.

 When a friend moved in and I needed to mooch Internet from the
 office (three 2.4 10mhz sectors) I just put some books on a jpole
 mount and the ns2 worked quite well.  Wouldn't leave it for an install
 but it worked 99% of the time.

 On 3/2/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 They can, I even tested it but I've never had good luck with indoor
 installs. It seems they always have weird issues. Maybe new stuff is
 better?

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 I had a customer like this - I just moved the CPE on the inside.  Use
   
 that
 
 rubber stick to the glass mount.  I know the Nanostations can, for your
 sake
 I hope the Locos can too, use a window mount (or wall mount) and put it
 inside the house.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
   
 continue
 
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 Darn county road is between them and the silo :(

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM,  c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 
 Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are that
   
 close.
 
 -Cameron

   
 I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've got a new
 customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is that it
 drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints from
 anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've
 
 already
 
 have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo has V-Pol
 omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm just
 concerned. Whats the downside?
 -RickG



 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-04 Thread Justin Wilson
My theory on this is you are not pushing the card to the max. Kind of  
like not driving a car flat out 100 percent of the time.

---
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net  
wrote:

 On any gear I try to get the levels to around -65 and very close both
 directions.  Things just seem to work better that way.
 I have also found on most of the Ubiquity SR and XR cards that setting
 the power to 2 points less than max works better than at max no matter
 what the signal level.

 Ryan Ghering wrote:
 With all the ubnt gear you can lower the power level via web  
 interface, we
 do this often on our gear to provide rock solid links.

 Ryan

 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Paul Gerstenberger  
 pa...@hrec.coop wrote:


 We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation  
 CPE, now
 encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is  
 the only
 solution to introduce attenuation?

 I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile  
 from the AP.
 With everything at default settings I could only pull about a half  
 meg. We
 have about 20 clients on that AP so far.

 -Paul

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


 Well if you added attenuation with the silo and polarity it would  
 be
 similar to the window or wall adding attenuation.

 When a friend moved in and I needed to mooch Internet from the
 office (three 2.4 10mhz sectors) I just put some books on a jpole
 mount and the ns2 worked quite well.  Wouldn't leave it for an  
 install
 but it worked 99% of the time.

 On 3/2/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 They can, I even tested it but I've never had good luck with  
 indoor
 installs. It seems they always have weird issues. Maybe new  
 stuff is
 better?

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I had a customer like this - I just moved the CPE on the  
 inside.  Use

 that

 rubber stick to the glass mount.  I know the Nanostations can,  
 for your
 sake
 I hope the Locos can too, use a window mount (or wall mount)  
 and put it
 inside the house.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the cou 
 rage to

 continue

 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com  
 wrote:


 Darn county road is between them and the silo :(

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM,  c...@midcoast.com wrote:

 Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are  
 that

 close.

 -Cameron


 I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've  
 got a new
 customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is  
 that it
 drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints  
 from
 anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've

 already

 have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo  
 has V-Pol
 omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm  
 just
 concerned. Whats the downside?
 -RickG




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[WISPA] TV broadcasters await FCC’s National B roadband Plan

2010-03-04 Thread Jack Unger


http://broadcastengineering.com/news/tv-broadcasters-await-fcc-0304/


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Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-04 Thread Forbes Mercy
Better yet turn down the AP if all your CPE's are hot.  You'd be 
surprised that a -85 becomes a -72 because it's not multipathing anymore 
with the lower AP signal and the hot signals are more in line.  Plus if 
you turn the CPE down too far from remote they you lose connection and 
have to make a house call.

Forbes

On 3/4/2010 3:10 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
 With all the ubnt gear you can lower the power level via web interface, we
 do this often on our gear to provide rock solid links.

 Ryan

 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Paul Gerstenbergerpa...@hrec.coop  wrote:


 We're just starting with WiFi using a Wavion AP and Nanostation CPE, now
 encountering the quirks. We're having this issue at some sites. Is the only
 solution to introduce attenuation?

 I just installed an NS2 at my house which is about a half mile from the AP.
 With everything at default settings I could only pull about a half meg. We
 have about 20 clients on that AP so far.

 -Paul

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  
 Well if you added attenuation with the silo and polarity it would be
 similar to the window or wall adding attenuation.

 When a friend moved in and I needed to mooch Internet from the
 office (three 2.4 10mhz sectors) I just put some books on a jpole
 mount and the ns2 worked quite well.  Wouldn't leave it for an install
 but it worked 99% of the time.

 On 3/2/10, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:

 They can, I even tested it but I've never had good luck with indoor
 installs. It seems they always have weird issues. Maybe new stuff is
 better?

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote:
  
 I had a customer like this - I just moved the CPE on the inside.  Use

 that
  
 rubber stick to the glass mount.  I know the Nanostations can, for your
 sake
 I hope the Locos can too, use a window mount (or wall mount) and put it
 inside the house.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to

 continue
  
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Darn county road is between them and the silo :(

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM,c...@midcoast.com  wrote:
  
 Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are that

 close.
  
 -Cameron


 I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've got a new
 customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is that it
 drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints from
 anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've
  
 already
  
 have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo has V-Pol
 omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm just
 concerned. Whats the downside?
 -RickG



  
  
 
  
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[WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-04 Thread Forbes Mercy
I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading 
this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all 
of your fleet.  I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept 
procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up.  Perfectly good 
truck - gone.  So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank 
yourself later.



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[WISPA] Mobile TV - It's not just iPods anymore

2010-03-04 Thread Jack Unger

http://broadcastengineering.com/news/new-mobile-dtv-marketplace-glimpse-first-commercially-consumer-receivers-0304/


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Forbes Mercy
If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should 
join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture.

On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
 gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
 datasheet for it eiter.
 The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
 China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new
 products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until
 earliest end of April.

 / Eje
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Eje,
 Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
That sucks.

thanks for the reminder.

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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading 
this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all 
of your fleet.  I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept 
procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up.  Perfectly good 
truck - gone.  So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank 
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Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-04 Thread Brad Belton
Isn't that what the little 10min Lube sticker in the upper left hand corner
of your windshield is for?

Brad

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That sucks.

thanks for the reminder.

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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading 
this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all 
of your fleet.  I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept 
procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up.  Perfectly good 
truck - gone.  So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank 
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Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
That sucks :(

I'm getting my oil changed and washtomorrow already!

On 3/4/10, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 That sucks.

 thanks for the reminder.

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 Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

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 of your fleet.  I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept
 procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up.  Perfectly good
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Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
There is a GPS service a guy in Idaho uses that notifys you when
you've hit the mile mark (depending on your type of truck/oil).

But I'm low tech like you, the sticker :)

On 3/4/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
 Isn't that what the little 10min Lube sticker in the upper left hand corner
 of your windshield is for?

 Brad

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 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:06 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

 That sucks.

 thanks for the reminder.

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 Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

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Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-04 Thread Brad Belton
That's just it.  One site to the next could require completely different
rigging for success.  

For example one of the water towers we have is a rounded pumpkin shaped
bowl.  No way a climber could be out there on the edge because there is no
edge!  The tower crew fabricated a sled with caster wheels and attached it
the face of the 6' antenna.  Once the antenna reached the side of the tower
it was able to roll around the side of the bowl and up to the top.  Pretty
slick, but much easier said than done.  

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

Bob, thanks for the advice, care to share a few rigging tips?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I agree with Brad.  Lifting a 4' dish is like lifting a 13 sq ft piece
of plywood. 

Be careful. You need to tag this load about 150+ feet from the base of
the tower to protect other equipment on the tower and your antenna. Very
unpredictable if not rigged right.

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:45 
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180,

 

Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist

 

Any ideas?

 

Gino A. Villarini

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware
what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven proposition is not
directly related to my e-mail? 
Because if it is then you need to withdraw this statement. As you might be
aware WISP-Router whom I represent is one of Ubiquiti's US distributors (one
out of 4). When I say something about Ubiquiti I tend to know what I'm
talking about because I had word from the horses mouth. Find anything that I
said in my message that is unproven based on anything that been posted on
the Ubiquiti forum. You will not be able to find anything. Same info I just
gave is on the forum from either Ben or Mike. 
Also I had a very long working relationship with Ubiquiti (we started out
selling their SR2 and SR5 cards when that was their only product and was
recipients of cards from the first mass production run). 
Ubiquiti say product supposed to be available by end of month that means
most of the time product is available for pickup in China at the beginning
of the following month then you have 1-2 weeks before you have product if
they are shipped airfreight, economically not feasible for most of their
products. PowerBridgeM5 will probably weight wise be around same weight as a
PowerStation so airfreight cost would be about $10-$12 per unit at least. 
So products will be sea freight which means 4-6 weeks after they are ready
from MFG until they are in Distributors hands. First mass production run
have always been very limited qty. Order 1k unit and get maybe 200 to 500.
Order 2k and you might get 500.

Now on the other hand if you just threw out a big word without truly
understand it's meaning well so be it. 

/ Eje Gustafsson
WISP-Router, Inc.  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should 
join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture.

On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
 gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
 datasheet for it eiter.
 The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
 China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new
 products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until
 earliest end of April.

 / Eje
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Eje,
 Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread Scottie Arnett
Eje,

Did you get my off-list email about POE surge protection on Canopy earlier 
today? If not, shoot me a direct email, please.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:24:58 -0600

Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware
what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven proposition is not
directly related to my e-mail? 
Because if it is then you need to withdraw this statement. As you might be
aware WISP-Router whom I represent is one of Ubiquiti's US distributors (one
out of 4). When I say something about Ubiquiti I tend to know what I'm
talking about because I had word from the horses mouth. Find anything that I
said in my message that is unproven based on anything that been posted on
the Ubiquiti forum. You will not be able to find anything. Same info I just
gave is on the forum from either Ben or Mike. 
Also I had a very long working relationship with Ubiquiti (we started out
selling their SR2 and SR5 cards when that was their only product and was
recipients of cards from the first mass production run). 
Ubiquiti say product supposed to be available by end of month that means
most of the time product is available for pickup in China at the beginning
of the following month then you have 1-2 weeks before you have product if
they are shipped airfreight, economically not feasible for most of their
products. PowerBridgeM5 will probably weight wise be around same weight as a
PowerStation so airfreight cost would be about $10-$12 per unit at least. 
So products will be sea freight which means 4-6 weeks after they are ready
from MFG until they are in Distributors hands. First mass production run
have always been very limited qty. Order 1k unit and get maybe 200 to 500.
Order 2k and you might get 500.

Now on the other hand if you just threw out a big word without truly
understand it's meaning well so be it. 

/ Eje Gustafsson
WISP-Router, Inc.  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should 
join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture.

On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
 gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
 datasheet for it eiter.
 The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
 China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new
 products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until
 earliest end of April.

 / Eje
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Eje,
 Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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 $30.00/mth.
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[WISPA] Valdosta GA

2010-03-04 Thread ralphlists
Looking for a fellow WISP there to handle some installs for me.

Ralph
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread RickG
LOL, I'd trust Eje's info over some of the things I've seen in the forum :)
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
 Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware
 what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven proposition is not
 directly related to my e-mail?
 Because if it is then you need to withdraw this statement. As you might be
 aware WISP-Router whom I represent is one of Ubiquiti's US distributors (one
 out of 4). When I say something about Ubiquiti I tend to know what I'm
 talking about because I had word from the horses mouth. Find anything that I
 said in my message that is unproven based on anything that been posted on
 the Ubiquiti forum. You will not be able to find anything. Same info I just
 gave is on the forum from either Ben or Mike.
 Also I had a very long working relationship with Ubiquiti (we started out
 selling their SR2 and SR5 cards when that was their only product and was
 recipients of cards from the first mass production run).
 Ubiquiti say product supposed to be available by end of month that means
 most of the time product is available for pickup in China at the beginning
 of the following month then you have 1-2 weeks before you have product if
 they are shipped airfreight, economically not feasible for most of their
 products. PowerBridgeM5 will probably weight wise be around same weight as a
 PowerStation so airfreight cost would be about $10-$12 per unit at least.
 So products will be sea freight which means 4-6 weeks after they are ready
 from MFG until they are in Distributors hands. First mass production run
 have always been very limited qty. Order 1k unit and get maybe 200 to 500.
 Order 2k and you might get 500.

 Now on the other hand if you just threw out a big word without truly
 understand it's meaning well so be it.

 / Eje Gustafsson
 WISP-Router, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should
 join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture.

 On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even
 gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the
 datasheet for it eiter.
 The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in
 China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new
 products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until
 earliest end of April.

 / Eje
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Eje,
 Got an ETA on Powerbridges?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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 $30.00/mth.
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-04 Thread RickG
Speaking of Pico - I get better performance with the low powered
version that the HP!
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
 Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't
 matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a
 CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

 Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do
 not say for sure.

 TIA,
 Scottie

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 $30.00/mth.
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