Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Congress, FBI, FEMA, FCC (then the different divisions within the FCC), etc. In some areas we aren't yet a player and in others, WISPs have been a player for several years. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John

[WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Brian Gray
Besides staying away from an AM tower, does anyone have any guidance as far as mounting equipment, specifically POE equipment on one without problems for us or the AM tower? How do I keep AM RF out of my POE cables and my radios / antennas? How do I ground my gear? My initial thoughts are:

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
You'll want to isolate the power with an isocoupler. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Brian Gray brian.g...@joinkllc.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:43:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] Guidance for

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Reed
I thought only Congress could make tax rules. Does the current law allow the FCC to impose USF on whatever they want? On 8/29/2012 4:40 PM, Jack Unger wrote: I also think it's a tax too. I just don't think we should

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
The tower is the AM antenna correct? If you ground your gear to the tower, aren't you connecting your gear directly to the antenna? It seems like if to try and avoid RF you connect to the thing that is energized with RF it's a step in the wrong direction. Is the tower a grounded-base or

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
AFAIK, you bond all metal objects with the tower itself. You aren't going to avoid the RF, so you make peace with it. I am kind of curious, though, how they handle lightning and ESD on a hot tower. They surely have a method because those transmitters aren't throw-away items. - Mike

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread lakeland
The station engineer should be the lead information contact. If he is clueless most AM stations have engineering firms on retainer. Adding equipment to certain stations can change the antenna radiation pattern. Obviously the FCC doesn't lie this. ;-) -B- - Reply message - From: Brian

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
They do lightning protection with very expensive commercial protectors, and the new solid state transmitters can sense the condition and momentarily shut down while the protector is doing it's thing which is basically becoming a short-circuit to pass the energy to ground, otherwise the

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
That was my first thought too, the possible pattern change. The antenna might have to be resurveyed after the install. Greg On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:27 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: The station engineer should be the lead information contact. If he is clueless most AM stations

Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

2012-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
They do lightning protection with very expensive commercial protectors, and the new solid state transmitters can sense the condition and momentarily shut down while the protector is doing it's thing which is basically becoming a short-circuit to pass the energy to ground, otherwise the

Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity

2012-08-30 Thread Patrick Wheeland
Unfortunately, it’s on the other side of the dish. You’ll have to take the radome cover off to see which polarity it’s set for. -Patrick *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:11 AM *To:* WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity

2012-08-30 Thread Sam Tetherow
Patrick is correct, I was remembering wrong, the notches are on the inside of the dish at the base of the LNB. On 08/30/2012 09:35 AM, Patrick Wheeland wrote: Unfortunately, it's on the other side of the dish. You'll have to take the radome cover off to see which polarity it's set for.

Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Reed
I was hoping the notches on the back were an indicator. Thanks to all for the responses. On 8/30/2012 10:42 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Patrick is correct, I was remembering wrong, the notches are on the inside of the dish at the base of the LNB. On 08/30/2012 09:35 AM, Patrick Wheeland wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/30/2012 09:07 AM, you wrote: I thought only Congress could make tax rules. Does the current law allow the FCC to impose USF on whatever they want? Of course they do. USF is part of TA96. It is not labeled tax because it doesn't go through the Treasury and the General Fund, but is

Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity

2012-08-30 Thread Doug Clark
Make sure you take a mechanics mirror up with you if it is in an awkward position to look at. ---Original Message--- From: Scott Reed Date: 8/30/2012 8:53:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity I was hoping the notches on the

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Forbes Mercy
Chris, Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've felt that education of our Congressional members has helped them remember us when staff reviews new laws. What we haven't done

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread chris cooper
Forbes There are roughly 60 days left before the election. I doubt I could get the local dog catcher candidate to take a policy position 60 days out from the election, much less a complicated position. The election has the nation polarized. In Ohio the race is neck and neck +/- a few points.

[WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Ralph
I have just finished installing Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would like some help testing it. If you have a big pipe, it would be especially helpful to have your feedback. Thanks very much Ralph Brightlan.net ___ Wireless mailing

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
Sure... send over the address. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 8/30/12 6:55 PM, Ralph wrote: I have just finished installing Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would like some help testing it. If you have a “big pipe”, it would be

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread j2840fl
I can try from my ds3. Let me know. Jason Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:55:57 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Ralph
Duh. Sorry. http://brightlan.net/page26.html http://brightlan.net/page22.html From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? I have

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
That takes us here: http://brightlan.net/helpdesk/ttx.cgi Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 8/30/12 7:04 PM, Ralph wrote: Duh. Sorry. http://brightlan.net/page26.html http://brightlan.net/page22.html *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Ralph
Oops again. Sorry, I changed the text of the link but not the link. http://brightlan.net/page26.html From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Jason Bailey
Looks good here in Michigan. I tested against 3 others locally and results look comparable. --- On Thu, 8/30/12, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Sean Heskett
+1 no corporate welfare! On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Chris, Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've felt that education of our

Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

2012-08-30 Thread Dodd Howell
from a 250mb node [cid:748130901@31082012-20B9] From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? Oops