Re: [WISPA] Customer dropped branch

2005-10-07 Thread Scott Reed




Yep.  Replaced radio last night. Broken RJ45 female to female coupler, but couldn't tell what else got strained.  Still doesn't work.  Climber (on a TV tower) fond some nasty stretch/scuffs in the cat 5, so we will be replacing that as well, since we still have loosy connectivity with great signal.  Probably not going to have to charge him for the radio, but time and cable, etc.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


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Ouch! I would assume customer paid for the antenna? 
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] PTP Link

2005-10-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

how fast do you need it to go?  How reliable does it need to be?

Marlon
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I am trying to do a 21 mile PtP link and need some equipment.  I so far I
would like to have an Orthogon Gemini Lite  but the price tag is pretty
high.  Is there anything out there that would work as well but be a little
more cost effective?   Would someone happen to have some used/refurbish
units that they want to get rid of?   I also have a load of 2.4 equipment 
I

could trade/sell if someone was interested in that.

Jory Privett
WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] PTP Link

2005-10-07 Thread Jory Privett
About 10M  and pretty reliable.  I am currently looking at the Orthogon 
Gemini Lite  but would like something a little lower in price.

Jory Privett
WCCS

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how fast do you need it to go?  How reliable does it need to be?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:14 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PTP Link


I am trying to do a 21 mile PtP link and need some equipment.  I so far I
 would like to have an Orthogon Gemini Lite  but the price tag is pretty
 high.  Is there anything out there that would work as well but be a little
 more cost effective?   Would someone happen to have some used/refurbish
 units that they want to get rid of?   I also have a load of 2.4 equipment
 I
 could trade/sell if someone was interested in that.

 Jory Privett
 WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News

2005-10-07 Thread Frank Muto
Level 3 Issues Ultimatum
Restores connectivity to Cogent until Nov 9

Posted 2005-10-07 19:15:54

After restoring connectivity to Cogent this afternoon, Level 3 has now
issued a press release (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68244) explaining
their side of the story
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051007/laf057.html?.v=17). Despite more than
75 days of advance written notice of the termination of our agreement,
Cogent apparently failed to notify its customers or make any business plans
to prepare for disconnection, notes Sureel Choksi, executive vice president
of Level 3 Communications.

The restored peering arrangement won't last if Cogent isn't willing to
negotiate, however.

Level 3 has, effective immediately, re-established a free connection to
Cogent. In order to allow Internet users to make alternative arrangements,
we will maintain this connection until 6:00 a.m. ET, November 9, 2005. The
effectiveness of this arrangement of course depends on Cogent's willingness
to maintain their side of the traffic exchange.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us



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Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Liotta
I hope everyone takes this opportunity to become multi-homed if you are 
not already. In our case, we were already multi-homed, but all of our 
IPs were allocated by Cogent simply because it was the cheapest place to 
get them. During this mesh we learn that our IPs were in some cases 
being null routed. As such, we have started the process of ordering our 
own IP block from ARIN and have asked Cogent to assign our existing IPs 
to us.


-Matt

Frank Muto wrote:


Level 3 Issues Ultimatum
Restores connectivity to Cogent until Nov 9

Posted 2005-10-07 19:15:54

After restoring connectivity to Cogent this afternoon, Level 3 has now
issued a press release (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68244) explaining
their side of the story
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051007/laf057.html?.v=17). Despite more than
75 days of advance written notice of the termination of our agreement,
Cogent apparently failed to notify its customers or make any business plans
to prepare for disconnection, notes Sureel Choksi, executive vice president
of Level 3 Communications.

The restored peering arrangement won't last if Cogent isn't willing to
negotiate, however.

Level 3 has, effective immediately, re-established a free connection to
Cogent. In order to allow Internet users to make alternative arrangements,
we will maintain this connection until 6:00 a.m. ET, November 9, 2005. The
effectiveness of this arrangement of course depends on Cogent's willingness
to maintain their side of the traffic exchange.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us



 



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Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News

2005-10-07 Thread Bo Hamilton
Here in ohio we got nailed by this.  Verizon, SBC, Time Warner, just to 
name a few.  I think Im going to get a backup DSL through Sprint since 
they were not affected by this here in ohio. 


Bo

Matt Liotta wrote:

I hope everyone takes this opportunity to become multi-homed if you 
are not already. In our case, we were already multi-homed, but all of 
our IPs were allocated by Cogent simply because it was the cheapest 
place to get them. During this mesh we learn that our IPs were in some 
cases being null routed. As such, we have started the process of 
ordering our own IP block from ARIN and have asked Cogent to assign 
our existing IPs to us.


-Matt

Frank Muto wrote:


Level 3 Issues Ultimatum
Restores connectivity to Cogent until Nov 9

Posted 2005-10-07 19:15:54

After restoring connectivity to Cogent this afternoon, Level 3 has now
issued a press release (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68244) 
explaining

their side of the story
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051007/laf057.html?.v=17). Despite more 
than

75 days of advance written notice of the termination of our agreement,
Cogent apparently failed to notify its customers or make any business 
plans
to prepare for disconnection, notes Sureel Choksi, executive vice 
president

of Level 3 Communications.

The restored peering arrangement won't last if Cogent isn't willing to
negotiate, however.

Level 3 has, effective immediately, re-established a free connection to
Cogent. In order to allow Internet users to make alternative 
arrangements,
we will maintain this connection until 6:00 a.m. ET, November 9, 
2005. The
effectiveness of this arrangement of course depends on Cogent's 
willingness

to maintain their side of the traffic exchange.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us



 





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Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Liotta
With all that being said, Cogent's routes pretty much suck in comparison 
to the other tier-1s. Being multi-homed certainly gives you a better 
performing network. Additionally, you might look into peering at an 
exchange. We are connected to the Atlanta Internet Exchange allowing us 
to peer with many companies for free.


-Matt

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Only thing... A big company has a lot more leverage to control fair 
play with IPs than you as a small provider.  When you own your own 
block, its real easy for a competitor (large monopoly) to block your 
IPs without hesitation.  Much more thought goes into wether they will 
block IPs by a large power like Cogent.  So there are disadvantages as 
well as benefits of owning your own IPs.  The same applies to peering. 
Do you think any of us small ISPs will have any leverage at all to 
negotiate fair peering?  Large companies like Cogent have the leverage 
to be able to negotiate peers with other large palyers like Level3.  
Level3 didn't restore connections just to be a nice guy to the end 
users. They did it because they were loosing business fast as well.  
Because Cogent was large enough to have that impact. I'm now going to 
be doing BGP and Multi-homing because this insodent, and for a PR 
perspective, I look more responsive to my customer because of it. But 
the reality is, I'm not sure it puts us up with that much of an 
advantage.  The day, a LEVEL3 wants to block your traffic, you won't 
have the leverage to get them to re-open it.  What cogent did was to 
get us better rates. Cogent pays, indirectly we pay.  I support 
Cogents stance. I do not support however that they did not give us 
notice to prepair for the situation.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News


I hope everyone takes this opportunity to become multi-homed if you 
are not already. In our case, we were already multi-homed, but all of 
our IPs were allocated by Cogent simply because it was the cheapest 
place to get them. During this mesh we learn that our IPs were in 
some cases being null routed. As such, we have started the process of 
ordering our own IP block from ARIN and have asked Cogent to assign 
our existing IPs to us.


-Matt

Frank Muto wrote:


Level 3 Issues Ultimatum
Restores connectivity to Cogent until Nov 9

Posted 2005-10-07 19:15:54

After restoring connectivity to Cogent this afternoon, Level 3 has now
issued a press release (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68244) 
explaining

their side of the story
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051007/laf057.html?.v=17). Despite 
more than

75 days of advance written notice of the termination of our agreement,
Cogent apparently failed to notify its customers or make any 
business plans
to prepare for disconnection, notes Sureel Choksi, executive vice 
president

of Level 3 Communications.

The restored peering arrangement won't last if Cogent isn't willing to
negotiate, however.

Level 3 has, effective immediately, re-established a free 
connection to
Cogent. In order to allow Internet users to make alternative 
arrangements,
we will maintain this connection until 6:00 a.m. ET, November 9, 
2005. The
effectiveness of this arrangement of course depends on Cogent's 
willingness

to maintain their side of the traffic exchange.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us






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Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 Current News

2005-10-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Level3 did it to themselves, Cogent customers didn't have the option to hear 
Level 3's side of the story because LEVEL3 blocked us access from reading 
their side, like idiots. They instead could have did port redirection to 
pass our traffic to their web site our something.  Regardless of what anyone 
says, LEVEL3 could have handled this situation by simply cutting off the 
pipe that was used for peering, but that is not what they did.  They weren't 
accepting route advertisements for Cogent IPs. We could send data through 
diverse paths (other peers / ISPs), the packets just never came back. 
LEVEL3 didn't block peering pipes, they blocked routing info, in other words 
Cogent users.  Cogent wasn't technically capable to re-route our data becaue 
LEvel3's actions. People leave out those little details of relavence, 
because they can't prove it legally. But it is what happened.  In my mind 
Level3 stinks bad in this battle, because how they fought dirty.  It had 
nothing to do with who was actually at faught regarding whether Cogent 
should have free peering or not.


However, Level3 atleast did the honorable thing and will be restoring 
service long enough for us to take action to add peers. But in my mind they 
should have made that decission two days ago, before all the damage was done 
to innocent providers and businesses such as MINE.  We can sit behind the 
scenes as individuals educated on the matter, and point fingers at LEvel3 or 
Cogent. But in my customer's eyes the ONLY one responsible is ME. I got a 
black eye on this, that will stay for some time, and I blaim Level3.  There 
actions were heartless on who it would effect.  In my mind, Level3 was 
inches away from serious law sutes.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Level 3 Issues Ultimatum
Restores connectivity to Cogent until Nov 9

Posted 2005-10-07 19:15:54

After restoring connectivity to Cogent this afternoon, Level 3 has now
issued a press release (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68244) 
explaining

their side of the story
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051007/laf057.html?.v=17). Despite more than
75 days of advance written notice of the termination of our agreement,
Cogent apparently failed to notify its customers or make any business 
plans
to prepare for disconnection, notes Sureel Choksi, executive vice 
president

of Level 3 Communications.

The restored peering arrangement won't last if Cogent isn't willing to
negotiate, however.

Level 3 has, effective immediately, re-established a free connection to
Cogent. In order to allow Internet users to make alternative arrangements,
we will maintain this connection until 6:00 a.m. ET, November 9, 2005. The
effectiveness of this arrangement of course depends on Cogent's 
willingness

to maintain their side of the traffic exchange.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us



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