Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
I'm off the chart ;P OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is: 136533.3 Kbps which means you can download at 17066.66 KB/sec. from our servers.*** On 10/27/05, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps:-)turn me up GeorgeMac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.comwww.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)318-728-8600 - Rayville318-728-9600318-376-2562 - cell George wrote: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote: What test site? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the fastest. So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG kbps=136533.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
It looks like I'm about 75ms rtt away from you and at ~1mbps... not bad for a jaunt through WCG's network which adds about 70ms to the trip. My local outgoing connection was 100mbps to AS4323. - Tony On 10/27/2005 5:08 PM, George created: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] EarthLink wins second muni Wi-Fi contract...Anaheim
http://telephonyonline.com/home/news/earthlink_muni_wifi_102605/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Real-world RouterOS tuning (or, Atheros/RB532 redux)
Okay, I'm a bit puzzled here, and since there are a few folks out there playing with these, maybe you'll have some advice. I just put up a pair of RouterBoard 532s for a heavily-trafficked backhaul link. It's about as simple a setup as you can get - just Ethernet up to one Atheros, running as an AP, across a 1/2 mile link to a client, back down the Ethernet. Simple enough, eh? Since it's just one radio hop, I haven't set up WDS or anything fancy, just a few simple routing statements to direct traffic from one end to the other. Using the RouterOS built-in tests, this link claims to be capable of almost 40Mbps one-way. I know the tests are somewhat idealized, and probably a bit optimistic, but I'm having trouble getting speeds even a third of that. I don't believe it's an RF issue, because it's a short link with good antennas. Signal strength is around -58, noise is in the mid-90s. Also, when there's no other traffic on the link, I can get the same test performance there that I was getting on my workbench, where the built-in bandwidth tests report 35+ Mbps. It's just that the darn boards seem to choke in the face of real-world traffic. (My real traffic load is around 10Mbps aggregate, balanced about 80-20 between upload and download.) I've tried hopping around to different frequencies, which I didn't expect to help. I've tried both enabling and disabling their proprietary NStreme protocol, and enabling/disabling radio compression. I haven't yet experimented with M3P (the packet packer protocol option), but I'm a bit skeptical on it as well. The (informal) testing I've done thus far shows the link not really handling traffic beyond about 15Mbps or so. (The informal testing was done with a few Web-based speed tests. More formal testing, with tools like nuttcp or qcheck, will be coming soon, but I'm really skeptical at this point.) Any suggestions on how to further tune the performance on these boards would be welcome. Thanks! David Smith MVN.net -- You don't seem the lying kind... a shame that I can read your mind. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2-4 proposal]
We never know how much help a little arm twisting can be. Scriv, Rick, Marlon, and the rest of the board, I'd mention their names if I knew them, have done a great job, you guys deserve to drown in beer, good beer, that is. At least as good as Milwaukees Best. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:41:20 -0500 From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2- 4 proposal] To: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org This is fantastic news, Frannie. I have to be honest. I was skeptical things would progress this far. I owe you a nice dinner the next time I am in D.C. regardless of the outcome going forward. You did us proud Frannie. I am copying the WISPA list here so they know their efforts are being recognized directly at the House level in D.C. Hopefully this will lead to actual legislative action to task the FCC to do the right thing. Thank you so much, Scriv PS. Anyone, please feel free to pass this message along to other WISP lists. Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey John, Good news!! An amendment calling on the FCC to finish the White Spaces proceeding passed in the House Energy and Commerce Committee as part of their Digital Transition bill. Now we have to see what happens on the floor and see what we can get in the Senate, but right now this is a terrific first step! BTW, all of the members of that House Committee received that letter signed by all the WISPs yesterday! Here's to progress... Best, Frannie John Scrivner wrote: -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5GHz interference
Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120” vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn’t much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2-4 proposal]
CHEERS!! Cliff Work 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2-4 proposal] We never know how much help a little arm twisting can be. Scriv, Rick, Marlon, and the rest of the board, I'd mention their names if I knew them, have done a great job, you guys deserve to drown in beer, good beer, that is. At least as good as Milwaukees Best. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:41:20 -0500 From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2- 4 proposal] To: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org This is fantastic news, Frannie. I have to be honest. I was skeptical things would progress this far. I owe you a nice dinner the next time I am in D.C. regardless of the outcome going forward. You did us proud Frannie. I am copying the WISPA list here so they know their efforts are being recognized directly at the House level in D.C. Hopefully this will lead to actual legislative action to task the FCC to do the right thing. Thank you so much, Scriv PS. Anyone, please feel free to pass this message along to other WISP lists. Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey John, Good news!! An amendment calling on the FCC to finish the White Spaces proceeding passed in the House Energy and Commerce Committee as part of their Digital Transition bill. Now we have to see what happens on the floor and see what we can get in the Senate, but right now this is a terrific first step! BTW, all of the members of that House Committee received that letter signed by all the WISPs yesterday! Here's to progress... Best, Frannie John Scrivner wrote: -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
Are you sure the interference is caused by the other dish? We have systems much closer than 15 foot apart and see no ill effects. With all the other gear on that tower could you in fact be seeing interference from something else? Lonnie On 10/28/05, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120 vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn't much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
I don't believe so as all the other kit is either mobile operators or +28GHz although I haven't fully tested yet. However, I do know that if I set the new 120' superpass sector to be a client of the Radiowaves 28db parabolic dish it shows a quality of around 30db whilst the normal client (another Radiowaves 28db parabolic 18km away) only shows 26db. Are any of your systems that are 15 foot apart a sector above a dish pointing in roughly the same direction? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: 28 October 2005 21:16 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference Are you sure the interference is caused by the other dish? We have systems much closer than 15 foot apart and see no ill effects. With all the other gear on that tower could you in fact be seeing interference from something else? Lonnie On 10/28/05, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120 vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn't much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
We use 3 foot dishes and 21 dB patches, and yes they point in roughly the same direction. We don't have that many 120 sectors so I have no experience. The 21 dB patches are only 12 degrees wide so maybe that is part of why we see such low interaction. Lonnie On 10/28/05, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe so as all the other kit is either mobile operators or +28GHz although I haven't fully tested yet. However, I do know that if I set the new 120' superpass sector to be a client of the Radiowaves 28db parabolic dish it shows a quality of around 30db whilst the normal client (another Radiowaves 28db parabolic 18km away) only shows 26db. Are any of your systems that are 15 foot apart a sector above a dish pointing in roughly the same direction? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: 28 October 2005 21:16 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference Are you sure the interference is caused by the other dish? We have systems much closer than 15 foot apart and see no ill effects. With all the other gear on that tower could you in fact be seeing interference from something else? Lonnie On 10/28/05, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120 vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn't much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120” vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn’t much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. Paul http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/ap/Tower/Tower%20and%20truck%20007.jpg 2 5.8 trangos maybe 3' apart. And I have added recently 2- 5.3 star-os wrap sectors in between those 2 antennas. 20' away is another proxim 5'3 backhaul. All pointing to the same area. Maybe you have a bad pigtail or connection? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
Is there any chance of interference from the mobile antennas? There are a couple real close to the new sector but I didn't think 900mhz would affect a CM9 running at 5.8?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: 29 October 2005 00:09 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120” vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn’t much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. Paul http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/ap/Tower/Tower%20and%20truck%20007.jpg 2 5.8 trangos maybe 3' apart. And I have added recently 2- 5.3 star-os wrap sectors in between those 2 antennas. 20' away is another proxim 5'3 backhaul. All pointing to the same area. Maybe you have a bad pigtail or connection? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
How much you expecting to get outta that sector ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 5GHz interference Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120 vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn't much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference
Interference distance with antennas will depend on a lot of factors. Antenna type, radio type, protocol etc. etc. etc. As a rule, with that much channel separation I'd think that you'd not see interference. I'm guessing you have something else going on. Have you tried, just for kicks, to move to a closer channel? I've got some sites where there's so much outside interference that my best performance is with all radios on the same channel. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz interference Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys and gals, Just seeing if anyone has any advise when mounting more than 1 antenna in the same frequency range on a tower. We have just installed a 5.8GHz 120” vert sector at about 47m. Already on the same side of the tower @ 42m is a 2 foot vert dish also running 5.8GHz. Both are pointing in roughly the same direction and there is 4 channels separation between them. I read somewhere on this list that 5 foot separation should be enough but I am seeing major interference. We have a horizontal dish also on this tower for a critical link so changing the dish to horizontal is not an option. Also, the tower is full of high frequency dishes and mobile antennas so there isn’t much chance of moving either antennas to a different height. Anyone got any ideas?? Cheers, P. Paul http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/ap/Tower/Tower%20and%20truck%20007.jpg 2 5.8 trangos maybe 3' apart. And I have added recently 2- 5.3 star-os wrap sectors in between those 2 antennas. 20' away is another proxim 5'3 backhaul. All pointing to the same area. Maybe you have a bad pigtail or connection? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/