Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
I don't consider bridging to be an acceptable method of broadband delivery... thus, my insistence on routing at the CPE. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Pete Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > -- > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > > found it to be a big issue. > > > > > Waverider client bridges (EUMs) port block several ports, including SMB > by default, which is a nice feature, since it keeps the traffic "off the > air" before it gets back to the core router to filter. Port filtering in > the CPE is a nice capability to have, IMO. These ports blocked don't > effect PPPOE connections, but its nice NOT to see every user's shared > printer on the WAN. > > > Pete Davis > NoDial.net > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
No, I'm not. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > So basically your talking about a Mikrotik CPE w/ atheros radio at 5ghz, 2.4ghz > or the coming 900mhz radio running on rb532 SBC > > Dan Metcalf > Wireless Broadband Systems > www.wbisp.com > 781-566-2053 ext 6201 > 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Mark Koskenmaki > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:42 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > > Ok dream list. > > > > > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > > > what you mention plus: > > > > Ok, 20mbit capability. > > > > > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > > > 5ghz > > > > Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of > > standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > > > > > support for higher powered radios > > > single and dual radio versions > > > > Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > > > > > QOS > > > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. > > > > This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > > > > > firewall > > > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > > found it to be a big issue. > > > > > port forwarding > > > > Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public > > IP's. > > > > > dual ethernet > > > > What do you use ethernet #2 for? > > > > > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc > > > > Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > > > > > small footprint > > > > ok, good addition. > > > > > SNMP > > > > Good thing. > > > > > syslogs and remote syslog > > > > How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to > > know. > > > > > watchdog, both ping and hardware > > > > !!! good :) > > > > > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > > > server) > > > > What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, > > would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > > > > > support multiple gateways > > > > CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's > > for redundancy? > > > > > temp range for outside installations > > > > A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > > > > > > > as you asked Mark dream list. > > > > Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL > > or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly > > without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see > > what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or > > particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people > > think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > -- -- > > - > > > > > > > > Tim Kerns > > > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM > > > Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? > > > > > > > > My dream list... > > > > > > > > < $100 without antenna > > > > can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer > > > > Routing > > > > nat > > > > DHCP server to client > > > > DHCP client to AP > > > > bandwidth control > > > > Centralized management and configuration > > > > centralized or automatic update > > > > > > > > > > > > What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, > > > > characteristics > > > > of your CPE? > > > > > > > > Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: -- What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' found it to be a big issue. Waverider client bridges (EUMs) port block several ports, including SMB by default, which is a nice feature, since it keeps the traffic "off the air" before it gets back to the core router to filter. Port filtering in the CPE is a nice capability to have, IMO. These ports blocked don't effect PPPOE connections, but its nice NOT to see every user's shared printer on the WAN. Pete Davis NoDial.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101
Jonathan Schmidt wrote: It deserves debate because it is a slippery slope. My thinking too. The "Yelling 'fire' in a theater" or talking (or with a virtual bribe) someone into a crime is at one end that is generally agreed upon as undesirable for a society, sufficiently undesirable to prohibit it. Yes, both of these are a crime. IIRC yelling "Yelling 'fire' in a theater" is a crime if someone gets hurt from it. If no one gets hurt (and the police/fire department are not called) this is a non crime but in bad taste. If the police/fire department are called then (again, if I remember this right) it becomes filing a false police report. If the website was saying "lets go kill the purple people eaters" and suggesting that it is ok "because they are purple" then I agree the site should have been shut down with a single C&D letter. What's at the other in this country and in others? Where's the middle? What is the middle and who does anything about it and, if so, what? Good questions, I sure do not have the answers. What works well and what offers the best protection against a repressive government? Revolution every so often? It deserves the same attention to debate today as it did when the Bill of Rights was drafted. I think more so now. We are coming to a point where people are saying Internet access is a right not a service, to me that should mean that it needs to have the same rights as we do in public. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 It does to a degree. I did not realize that (Canadian only?) FTA: "The Human Rights Act prohibits the communication of messages over the Internet likely to expose people to hatred or contempt based on religion or race." WOW that is "over the top". What next, No saying hateful things in public at all? The world is a lot worse off then I realized. Think I will go sue all those twits (and their ISPs) on IRC that keep calling me a Cracker (Ignoring that my nick is Crackers`n`Soup) Jeromie Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I hope this is no surprise to you... but Canada doesn't have freedom of speech, nor does the UK, nor much of Europe. So, let's not get too wrapped up in "internet freedom of speech" because it exists only in a fragile way, here in the US. We have our own self-appointed censors... YOu'll find them applauding the decision in Canada, and then publishing articles critical of banning kiddy porn... Go figure. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! --- - - - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/03/11/1482485-sun.html Is it me or is this out of line? I thought all "free" countries had settled this in their respective courts already? Jeromie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
So basically your talking about a Mikrotik CPE w/ atheros radio at 5ghz, 2.4ghz or the coming 900mhz radio running on rb532 SBC Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Mark Koskenmaki > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > Ok dream list. > > > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > > what you mention plus: > > Ok, 20mbit capability. > > > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > > 5ghz > > Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of > standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > > > support for higher powered radios > > single and dual radio versions > > Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > > > QOS > > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. > > This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > > > firewall > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > found it to be a big issue. > > > port forwarding > > Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public > IP's. > > > dual ethernet > > What do you use ethernet #2 for? > > > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc > > Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > > > small footprint > > ok, good addition. > > > SNMP > > Good thing. > > > syslogs and remote syslog > > How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to > know. > > > watchdog, both ping and hardware > > !!! good :) > > > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > > server) > > What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, > would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > > > support multiple gateways > > CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's > for redundancy? > > > temp range for outside installations > > A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > > > > as you asked Mark dream list. > > Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL > or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly > without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see > what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or > particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people > think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > - > > > > > Tim Kerns > > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > > > > > What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? > > > > > > My dream list... > > > > > > < $100 without antenna > > > can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer > > > Routing > > > nat > > > DHCP server to client > > > DHCP client to AP > > > bandwidth control > > > Centralized management and configuration > > > centralized or automatic update > > > > > > > > > What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, > > > characteristics > > > of your CPE? > > > > > > Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > > > -- > -- > > > - > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archi
RE: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101
It deserves debate because it is a slippery slope. The "Yelling 'fire' in a theater" or talking (or with a virtual bribe) someone into a crime is at one end that is generally agreed upon as undesirable for a society, sufficiently undesirable to prohibit it. What's at the other in this country and in others? Where's the middle? What is the middle and who does anything about it and, if so, what? What works well and what offers the best protection against a repressive government? It deserves the same attention to debate today as it did when the Bill of Rights was drafted. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 It does to a degree. I did not realize that (Canadian only?) FTA: "The Human Rights Act prohibits the communication of messages over the Internet likely to expose people to hatred or contempt based on religion or race." WOW that is "over the top". What next, No saying hateful things in public at all? The world is a lot worse off then I realized. Think I will go sue all those twits (and their ISPs) on IRC that keep calling me a Cracker (Ignoring that my nick is Crackers`n`Soup) Jeromie Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >I hope this is no surprise to you... but Canada doesn't have freedom of >speech, nor does the UK, nor much of Europe. > >So, let's not get too wrapped up in "internet freedom of speech" because it >exists only in a fragile way, here in the US. > >We have our own self-appointed censors... YOu'll find them applauding the >decision in Canada, and then publishing articles critical of banning kiddy >porn... > >Go figure. > > > >North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 >personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net >sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net >Fast Internet, NO WIRES! >--- - >- >- Original Message - >From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:19 PM >Subject: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 > > > > >>http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/03/11/1482485-sun.html >> >>Is it me or is this out of line? I thought all "free" countries had >>settled this >>in their respective courts already? >> >>Jeromie >>-- >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101
It does to a degree. I did not realize that (Canadian only?) FTA: "The Human Rights Act prohibits the communication of messages over the Internet likely to expose people to hatred or contempt based on religion or race." WOW that is "over the top". What next, No saying hateful things in public at all? The world is a lot worse off then I realized. Think I will go sue all those twits (and their ISPs) on IRC that keep calling me a Cracker (Ignoring that my nick is Crackers`n`Soup) Jeromie Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I hope this is no surprise to you... but Canada doesn't have freedom of speech, nor does the UK, nor much of Europe. So, let's not get too wrapped up in "internet freedom of speech" because it exists only in a fragile way, here in the US. We have our own self-appointed censors... YOu'll find them applauding the decision in Canada, and then publishing articles critical of banning kiddy porn... Go figure. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/03/11/1482485-sun.html Is it me or is this out of line? I thought all "free" countries had settled this in their respective courts already? Jeromie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101
I hope this is no surprise to you... but Canada doesn't have freedom of speech, nor does the UK, nor much of Europe. So, let's not get too wrapped up in "internet freedom of speech" because it exists only in a fragile way, here in the US. We have our own self-appointed censors... YOu'll find them applauding the decision in Canada, and then publishing articles critical of banning kiddy porn... Go figure. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101 > http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/03/11/1482485-sun.html > > Is it me or is this out of line? I thought all "free" countries had > settled this > in their respective courts already? > > Jeromie > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Class: How to stomp Internet Freedom 101
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/03/11/1482485-sun.html Is it me or is this out of line? I thought all "free" countries had settled this in their respective courts already? Jeromie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
- Original Message - From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > Ok dream list. > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > what you mention plus: Ok, 20mbit capability. > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > 5ghz Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > support for higher powered radios > single and dual radio versions Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > QOS > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > firewall What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' found it to be a big issue. > port forwarding Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public IP's. > dual ethernet What do you use ethernet #2 for? > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > small footprint ok, good addition. > SNMP Good thing. > syslogs and remote syslog How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to know. > watchdog, both ping and hardware !!! good :) > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > server) What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > support multiple gateways CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's for redundancy? > temp range for outside installations A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > as you asked Mark dream list. Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - > > Tim Kerns > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM > Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? > > > > My dream list... > > > > < $100 without antenna > > can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer > > Routing > > nat > > DHCP server to client > > DHCP client to AP > > bandwidth control > > Centralized management and configuration > > centralized or automatic update > > > > > > What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, > > characteristics > > of your CPE? > > > > Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > -- -- > > - > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
I think MT's RB112 with the R52 does all this except for the <$100 part. (More like $155). - Original Message - From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) Ok dream list. I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits what you mention plus: multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, 5ghz support for higher powered radios single and dual radio versions QOS Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. firewall port forwarding dual ethernet POE - prefer standard 48 vdc small footprint SNMP syslogs and remote syslog watchdog, both ping and hardware maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs server) support multiple gateways temp range for outside installations as you asked Mark dream list. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? My dream list... < $100 without antenna can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer Routing nat DHCP server to client DHCP client to AP bandwidth control Centralized management and configuration centralized or automatic update What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, characteristics of your CPE? Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crimp or solder?
We always use the Times Microwave EZ's also and have had stellar performance and reliability. They are not cheap but the quality is there and the cost savings for labor help offset the price somewhat. Scriv Bob Moldashel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've always terminated LMR 195/400/600 with solder on tips in the past. Its a real pain in the arse to do in many environments. Can anyone relate experiences with the crimp on tips? IS there any loss of reliability etc.? Thanks, Chris Chris, We have used times EZ connectors with the captive center pins for years and have never had a connector not sweep to specs. Forget the soldering and go with the EZ's -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router
If I sell you something, and you don't call me to tell me there is a problem with it for a month, I will assume that you got it, and it worked just fine. If you call me a month later and just opened the box and the product inside isn't what you remember ordering, then it seems like someone needs to draw the line somewhere. Would you go back to a store and tell them that the VCR you bought 3 months ago was missing the remote control? Do you think they would believe you? Is there a time limit (longer than 7 days I assume) that you think that the vendor should have adequate expectation that you have had time to receive and inspect the goods that they shipped? Their printed policy was apparently 7 days. What do you think would be fair? 30 days? 90 days? forever? You sent payment. They shipped a box, and stated that you should inspect the box to insure the accuracy of the order. When there was no response in 7 days, it seems fair for them to assume that the box met your expectations. This reminds me of subs whose first call to complain, they tell me that "its been down for 2 weeks". I usually ask them if their phone service has been down that whole time too, since they haven't called. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the "ups guy must have stole"? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
Ok dream list. I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits what you mention plus: multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, 5ghz support for higher powered radios single and dual radio versions QOS Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. firewall port forwarding dual ethernet POE - prefer standard 48 vdc small footprint SNMP syslogs and remote syslog watchdog, both ping and hardware maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs server) support multiple gateways temp range for outside installations as you asked Mark dream list. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? My dream list... < $100 without antenna can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer Routing nat DHCP server to client DHCP client to AP bandwidth control Centralized management and configuration centralized or automatic update What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, characteristics of your CPE? Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crimp or solder?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've always terminated LMR 195/400/600 with solder on tips in the past. Its a real pain in the arse to do in many environments. Can anyone relate experiences with the crimp on tips? IS there any loss of reliability etc.? Thanks, Chris Chris, We have used times EZ connectors with the captive center pins for years and have never had a connector not sweep to specs. Forget the soldering and go with the EZ's -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? My dream list... < $100 without antenna can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer Routing nat DHCP server to client DHCP client to AP bandwidth control Centralized management and configuration centralized or automatic update What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, characteristics of your CPE? Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crimp or solder?
I have never soldered and have never had to replace a crimp in 5 years. Perhaps I'm just good or lucky or a combination of both. LMR400/600. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] Crimp or solder? We've always terminated LMR 195/400/600 with solder on tips in the past. Its a real pain in the arse to do in many environments. Can anyone relate experiences with the crimp on tips? IS there any loss of reliability etc.? Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Crimp or solder?
We've always terminated LMR 195/400/600 with solder on tips in the past. Its a real pain in the arse to do in many environments. Can anyone relate experiences with the crimp on tips? IS there any loss of reliability etc.? Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
