[WISPA] Wireless ISPs stake claims
Being a wireless Internet service provider is becoming a popular business. A handful of local companies, large and small, are bringing different approaches to the marketplace, hoping to distinguish themselves and stake a position in the front of an industry headed toward consolidation -- not unlike the story of incumbent carriers, local exchange carriers and original ISPs of the 1990s. http://www.bizjournals.com/masshightech/stories/2006/04/03/story1.html -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history
Thats one of the trade offs, 5800 is end of lifed :-( I don't mind retiring 5800AP in favor of next generation AP. What I mind is reitring 5800AP to replace it with a last generation 5830AP, that most likely will need to be re-replaced shortly after by an OFDM AP. I still think the merit of accomplish a quality $150 CPE is amazing. But I'd wish they'd get the Atlas AP comming, so we can see if the M5580 is a usable or non usable OFDM product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history I just wish the new units worked with the 5800 AP's... On 1/18/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened. It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have been in shock. Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to buy, before they shipped. This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price. Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu? Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price tag after we realized the advantages? Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross platform supported! They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed. What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500? When I heard $150 today, I able shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it. I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year ROI on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came, thanks Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the limits, and said If we only had a $300 CPE. And sure enough it came. Thanks Trango. (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under $150). Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, if I only had a $150 CPE!. It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral would say BAM! Trango did it agin, $150. This is truly a defining moment in history. No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz product. But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly paid $500 for, less than a year ago. I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango meeting. After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more radios. Then out of nowhere Z gets all serious and asks What If...we had a $200 CPE? We respond, how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000? Instantly, Travis is like, at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a time. Then I was like, I'd take 500. Etc, etc. Then we all realized we were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night. CPEs were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought Z was kidding! And the irony in it all, quantity 10,000 is not required! Just qty 30! And its only $150, not $200! I just don't know what to say. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to be in the tech room tommorrow. I'm going to be in the marketing room, making new materials, and crunching numbers. Our business plan may have just changed overnight, with this recent Press release. Think about the potential! The residential market is going to be broken wide open, with this pricing. If I didn't have a box of M5580s sitting on my desk, I'd ask somebody to pinch me, to make sure I wasn't dreaming. Trango... Thanks! PS. PLEASE, NOBODY SAY, If I only had a CPE for $75, I don't think my heart could take the results. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Nortel to test Wireless Mesh in Israel
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060403/wr_nm/telecoms_israel_nortel_dc_2 Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?
What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history
Trango is clearly trying to get their product deployed before more inexpensive WiMAX CPE hits the street. - They announced their $149 CPE (in 30 packs), but must install M5830 AP as a transition - They announced a M5800 $300 rebate/tradein program for your old APs - Don't know if they have announced yet but I have heard they will have a connectorized M5830 AP so you don't have to purchase 6 AP's then replace them I don't have an idea of the timing on the Atlas AP. That would be nice to hear about... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history Thats one of the trade offs, 5800 is end of lifed :-( I don't mind retiring 5800AP in favor of next generation AP. What I mind is reitring 5800AP to replace it with a last generation 5830AP, that most likely will need to be re-replaced shortly after by an OFDM AP. I still think the merit of accomplish a quality $150 CPE is amazing. But I'd wish they'd get the Atlas AP comming, so we can see if the M5580 is a usable or non usable OFDM product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history I just wish the new units worked with the 5800 AP's... On 1/18/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened. It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have been in shock. Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to buy, before they shipped. This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price. Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu? Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price tag after we realized the advantages? Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross platform supported! They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed. What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500? When I heard $150 today, I able shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it. I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year ROI on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came, thanks Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the limits, and said If we only had a $300 CPE. And sure enough it came. Thanks Trango. (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under $150). Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, if I only had a $150 CPE!. It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral would say BAM! Trango did it agin, $150. This is truly a defining moment in history. No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz product. But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly paid $500 for, less than a year ago. I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango meeting. After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more radios. Then out of nowhere Z gets all serious and asks What If...we had a $200 CPE? We respond, how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000? Instantly, Travis is like, at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a time. Then I was like, I'd take 500. Etc, etc. Then we all realized we were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night. CPEs were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought Z was kidding! And the irony in it all, quantity 10,000 is not required! Just qty 30! And its only $150, not $200! I just don't know what to say. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to be in the tech room tommorrow. I'm going to be in the marketing room, making new materials, and crunching numbers. Our business plan may have just changed overnight, with this recent Press release. Think about the potential! The residential market is going to be broken wide open, with this pricing. If I didn't have a box of M5580s sitting on my desk, I'd ask somebody to pinch me, to make sure I wasn't dreaming. Trango... Thanks! PS. PLEASE, NOBODY SAY, If I only had a CPE for $75, I don't think my heart could take the results. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
RE: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history
The connectorized 5830 AP (part number M5830S-AP-EXT) will be available for shipment in about a week. It is certified for use with the 120 degree sector and omni from Pac Wireless as well as the dual-pol 90 deg. sector from Radiowaves. Stay tuned for info on the Atlas AP. John Seaman Trango Broadband Wireless -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history Trango is clearly trying to get their product deployed before more inexpensive WiMAX CPE hits the street. - They announced their $149 CPE (in 30 packs), but must install M5830 AP as a transition - They announced a M5800 $300 rebate/tradein program for your old APs - Don't know if they have announced yet but I have heard they will have a connectorized M5830 AP so you don't have to purchase 6 AP's then replace them I don't have an idea of the timing on the Atlas AP. That would be nice to hear about... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history Thats one of the trade offs, 5800 is end of lifed :-( I don't mind retiring 5800AP in favor of next generation AP. What I mind is reitring 5800AP to replace it with a last generation 5830AP, that most likely will need to be re-replaced shortly after by an OFDM AP. I still think the merit of accomplish a quality $150 CPE is amazing. But I'd wish they'd get the Atlas AP comming, so we can see if the M5580 is a usable or non usable OFDM product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history I just wish the new units worked with the 5800 AP's... On 1/18/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened. It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have been in shock. Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to buy, before they shipped. This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price. Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu? Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price tag after we realized the advantages? Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross platform supported! They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed. What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500? When I heard $150 today, I able shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it. I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year ROI on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came, thanks Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the limits, and said If we only had a $300 CPE. And sure enough it came. Thanks Trango. (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under $150). Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, if I only had a $150 CPE!. It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral would say BAM! Trango did it agin, $150. This is truly a defining moment in history. No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz product. But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly paid $500 for, less than a year ago. I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango meeting. After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more radios. Then out of nowhere Z gets all serious and asks What If...we had a $200 CPE? We respond, how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000? Instantly, Travis is like, at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a time. Then I was like, I'd take 500. Etc, etc. Then we all realized we were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night. CPEs were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought Z was kidding! And the irony in it all, quantity 10,000 is not required! Just qty 30! And its only $150, not $200! I just don't know what to say. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to be in the tech room tommorrow. I'm going to be in the marketing room, making new materials, and crunching numbers. Our business plan may have just changed overnight, with this recent Press release. Think about the potential! The residential
Re[2]: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history
Hello John, Any chance the 900 stuff will become similarly priced? Also, why not package units in one box when buying in bulk? Would seem to be cheaper to ship and less waste to group multiple orders in one box. Barry Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:33:39 PM, you wrote: JS The connectorized 5830 AP (part number M5830S-AP-EXT) will be JS available for shipment in about a week. It is certified for use JS with the 120 degree sector and omni from Pac Wireless as well as JS the dual-pol 90 deg. sector from Radiowaves. Stay tuned for info JS on the Atlas AP. JS John Seaman JS Trango Broadband Wireless JS -Original Message- JS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JS Behalf Of Mark Nash JS Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:30 AM JS To: WISPA General List JS Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history JS Trango is clearly trying to get their product deployed before more JS inexpensive WiMAX CPE hits the street. JS - They announced their $149 CPE (in 30 packs), but must install M5830 AP as JS a transition JS - They announced a M5800 $300 rebate/tradein program for your old APs JS - Don't know if they have announced yet but I have heard they will have a JS connectorized M5830 AP so you don't have to purchase 6 AP's then replace JS them JS I don't have an idea of the timing on the Atlas AP. That would be nice to JS hear about... JS Mark Nash JS Network Engineer JS UnwiredOnline.Net JS 350 Holly Street JS Junction City, OR 97448 JS http://www.uwol.net JS 541-998- JS 541-998-5599 fax JS - Original Message - JS From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] JS To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org JS Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:36 AM JS Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history Thats one of the trade offs, 5800 is end of lifed :-( I don't mind retiring 5800AP in favor of next generation AP. What I mind is reitring 5800AP to replace it with a last generation JS 5830AP, that most likely will need to be re-replaced shortly after by an OFDM AP. I still think the merit of accomplish a quality $150 CPE is amazing. But I'd wish they'd get the Atlas AP comming, so we can see if the M5580 JS is a usable or non usable OFDM product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history I just wish the new units worked with the 5800 AP's... On 1/18/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened. It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have JS been in shock. Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to JS buy, before they shipped. This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price. Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu? Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price JS tag after we realized the advantages? Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross platform supported! They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed. What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500? When I heard $150 today, I able shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it. I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year JS ROI on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came, thanks Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the limits, and said If we only had a $300 CPE. And sure enough it came. Thanks Trango. (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under JS $150). Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, if I only had a $150 CPE!. It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral JS would say BAM! Trango did it agin, $150. This is truly a defining moment in history. No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz product. But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly paid $500 for, less than a year ago. I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango JS meeting. After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more JS radios. Then out of nowhere Z gets all serious and asks What If...we had a JS $200 CPE? We respond, how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000? Instantly, Travis is like, at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a time. Then I was like, I'd take 500. Etc, etc. Then we all realized JS we were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night. JS CPEs were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought JS Z was kidding! And the irony in it all,
[WISPA] plenum cable
Will plenum rated cable stand up to the heat/moisture of a dryer vent pipe? Im trying to get a run of cable top to bottom on an 8 story building and the easiest access is through a common dryer vent that feeds laundry facilities on all 8 floors. Thanks, Chris Cooper Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] plenum cable
Chris, I'd check with the cable manufacturer on that question. Plenum cable is designed to NOT give off toxic gases into a breathing-air plenum in case of a fire. I'm not sure this means that the cable will continue to survive and perform when intentionally exposed to high temperatures. You may find that there is a high-temp cable version that is more appropriate. It's also possible that standard cable might have a temperature rating high enough for your use considering that the dryer vent isn't carrying plenum air that anyone would be breathing. jack chris cooper wrote: Will plenum rated cable stand up to the heat/moisture of a dryer vent pipe? Im trying to get a run of cable top to bottom on an 8 story building and the easiest access is through a common dryer vent that feeds laundry facilities on all 8 floors. Thanks, Chris Cooper Intelliwave -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Our next WISP Workshops are April 12-13 and April 26-27 Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?
George From what we have seen most of the unlicensed WIMAX will come into its own in the first half of 2007. The limitation for low cost units comes down to the chipsets, we have tested prototype mini-pci WIMAX radios (5Ghz) but they are far from ready for prime time. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SR9 cards......
Blair We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards.. It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is now the 2nd week of May It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May Can you say 'vaporware'? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?
I thought Alvarion was Wimax, or wimax-able, or wimax compatible, or software-flashable to wimax. Wimax-ilicious, or something. pd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George From what we have seen most of the unlicensed WIMAX will come into its own in the first half of 2007. The limitation for low cost units comes down to the chipsets, we have tested prototype mini-pci WIMAX radios (5Ghz) but they are far from ready for prime time. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: Bellevue WISP ??
Can anyone help someone at this address?Begin forwarded message:From: "Ian Haight" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: April 3, 2006 5:25:47 PM PDTTo: "'Jeff Booher'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Bellevue WISP ?? Here is the address.. 1621 114th ave SE Bellevue, WA 98004 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......
Tony, I hope so. However, I am running out of time. Let me give you a little background. I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county. It is a mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell. The TurboCell provides back haul and service for long range clients, (3 miles), or for NLoS clients at short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (3 miles). This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell). I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell back hauls. I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's. Netstream is my most likely choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz as well. I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get thru a severe NLoS for a single user. This was a very expensive deployment and the average customer would not pay for it. I tested several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the RF Linx UDC's.. I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want service. They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the only reasonable option I can come up with. None of the existing 900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total. Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this. Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin deployment by the end of this month. Now, it looks like I won't even be able to start testing until the end of May. Even getting a pair of the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the eagerly waiting customers I am really getting up against the wall here. My time is running out and I must find my answer soon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards.. It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is now the 2nd week of May It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May Can you say 'vaporware'? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......
me too. Growth amongst the Ganaraska Forests here in the Rolling Hills of Northumberland County is starting to demand a nlos solution. And we like to use off the shelf industry standard equipment, no proprietary equipment is our motto - We paid $45,000 dollars for it and still have the proof. :-) Apparently Tranzeo is Beta Testing also. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Tony, I hope so. However, I am running out of time. Let me give you a little background. I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county. It is a mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell. The TurboCell provides back haul and service for long range clients, (3 miles), or for NLoS clients at short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (3 miles). This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell). I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell back hauls. I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's. Netstream is my most likely choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz as well. I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get thru a severe NLoS for a single user. This was a very expensive deployment and the average customer would not pay for it. I tested several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the RF Linx UDC's.. I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want service. They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the only reasonable option I can come up with. None of the existing 900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total. Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this. Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin deployment by the end of this month. Now, it looks like I won't even be able to start testing until the end of May. Even getting a pair of the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the eagerly waiting customers I am really getting up against the wall here. My time is running out and I must find my answer soon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards.. It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is now the 2nd week of May It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May Can you say 'vaporware'? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?
No... but it's understandable that you might be confused (heck... I might be confused...) but there is so much over-hyped horsesh*t being slung around regarding WiMAX-certified equipment (not by any vendor in particular) and there is so much ignorance on the part of journalists who continue to call pre-WiMAX equipment WiMAX that it's a miracle if anybody knows the truth anymore. Anyway, here's a link http://www.wimaxforum.org/news/press_releases/FDD_Certifications that (I think) summarizes the products that have received WiMAX certification. WiMAX certification is band-specific, by the way. All the equipment certified so far is for the 3.5 GHz band which is not legal in the U.S. Equipment that will eventually be certified for use in bands that are legal in the U.S. will have different performance specifications. Anything equipment that is said to be WiMAX-anything is NOT WiMAX. jack Pete Davis wrote: I thought Alvarion was Wimax, or wimax-able, or wimax compatible, or software-flashable to wimax. Wimax-ilicious, or something. pd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George From what we have seen most of the unlicensed WIMAX will come into its own in the first half of 2007. The limitation for low cost units comes down to the chipsets, we have tested prototype mini-pci WIMAX radios (5Ghz) but they are far from ready for prime time. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Our next WISP Workshops are April 12-13 and April 26-27 Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VOIP solution ?
List, I got a Customer with 70 locations(retail chain) that what to implement a private VOIP system to their main office PBX, basically they want to create virtual extensions of their Main Office PBX. We have tested Asterisk in house and other low end solutions like the Sipura adapters for other projects, but we really need a tested solution for this project. Already got Cisco and 3com quoted, any other I should look at ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] VOIP solution ?
Pbx central Chuck Moses HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 16922 Airport Blvd # 3 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] VOIP solution ? List, I got a Customer with 70 locations(retail chain) that what to implement a private VOIP system to their main office PBX, basically they want to create virtual extensions of their Main Office PBX. We have tested Asterisk in house and other low end solutions like the Sipura adapters for other projects, but we really need a tested solution for this project. Already got Cisco and 3com quoted, any other I should look at ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?
Doesn't Alvarion and moto have some unlicensed WIMAX products about to be released? Wonder if Patrick Leary is still on this list? George Jack Unger wrote: No... but it's understandable that you might be confused (heck... I might be confused...) but there is so much over-hyped horsesh*t being slung around regarding WiMAX-certified equipment (not by any vendor in particular) and there is so much ignorance on the part of journalists who continue to call pre-WiMAX equipment WiMAX that it's a miracle if anybody knows the truth anymore. Anyway, here's a link http://www.wimaxforum.org/news/press_releases/FDD_Certifications that (I think) summarizes the products that have received WiMAX certification. WiMAX certification is band-specific, by the way. All the equipment certified so far is for the 3.5 GHz band which is not legal in the U.S. Equipment that will eventually be certified for use in bands that are legal in the U.S. will have different performance specifications. Anything equipment that is said to be WiMAX-anything is NOT WiMAX. jack -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
