Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-03 Thread Jason
OK, It's the second real item down the center of the page. http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ Jason George Rogato wrote: Please post that link, if we all filled out the form, we would get some kind of recognition. Jason wrote: Gang, Congress.org has a spot to enter your zip

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Peter R.
Tim Kery wrote: Examples of these types of establishments may include some hotels, coffee shops, schools, libraries, or book stores. DOJ has stated that it has no desire to require such retail establishments to implement CALEA solutions, DOJ Comments at 36, and we conclude that the public

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Peter R.
David E. Smith wrote: The FCC wrote: we conclude that establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments are not considered facilities-based broadband

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-03 Thread Carl A jeptha
Sam, If you are a Christian you know there is no such thing as a living Saint, we only make them Saints after they are gone. O:-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Sam Tetherow wrote: Gee

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl A jeptha
Well done Sam, move to the top of the class. Notice when you do it to someone else(England) it is ok, but do it to your own goverment it is breaking the law? Weren't Laws made to be broken :-\ You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl A jeptha
When I had to get my citizenship I had to pass a language test, so I remember that it is eh, eh. 8-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie

[WISPA] quote of the day

2007-05-03 Thread Peter R.
The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing. -Walt Disney -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] Florida's First Responders Get New Digital Network

2007-05-03 Thread Peter R.
from TelecomWeb http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/23033.html Hall County, Fla., continues to boast about its new sales-tax-funded, $16 million radio system built for law enforcement, firefighters and medics to replace equipment that in some cases was 50 years old. Voters approved funding for the

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread David E. Smith
Peter R. wrote: Why not check with a knowledgeable legal professional instead of guessing? That'd be my boss's department. :D I'm just a pundit - full of opinions and hot air. Now you can choose to ignore it, and say a prayer daily that Barney Fife or any other LEA officer does not knock on

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Ross Cornett
I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk upon themselves by not becoming compliant. It appears that it is time to start charging a

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of NAT. The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to identify the end user, and the

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question ... fees

2007-05-03 Thread Peter R.
Ross Cornett wrote: I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk upon themselves by not becoming compliant. It appears that it is time to

[WISPA] Tilting at Windmills

2007-05-03 Thread chuck
I've got a township in PA that is eager to have us expand to their area, which is typically quite hilly. They're asking me if we could mount on wind mills, which they are apparently already encouraging. Anyone have any experience with this? I can imagine problems (like vibration), but my

Re: [WISPA] Tilting at Windmills

2007-05-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I would think there would be an issue with the gigantic spinning pieces of metal. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:52 PM

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread John Scrivner
I think you better just take a rate increase and chalk it up to increased expenses all the way around as opposed to creating a CALEA charge line item. Adding a fee as a line item could get you in trouble with the FTC if not approved as a legitimate added government fee (just my opinion,

Re: [WISPA] Tilting at Windmills

2007-05-03 Thread cprofito
if the blades are composite or fiberglass you may get through, but the receive jitter will probably drive the radio card nuts. If there is enough room under the blades to see what you want to see it should be great. A piece of foam on your board and lil rubber on antenna mounts should give you

[WISPA] Yup, lemmings

2007-05-03 Thread maybemenot
It seems that what we really have is mis-placed priority. Apparently it is more of an outrage to wear fur, than to target an immature industry and push it into extinction. kudos to digg they stood firm with their constituents and re- allowed posting of the hd code crack.

[WISPA] Motorola Powerline

2007-05-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Has anyone used the Motorola Powerline products? How did it work for you? Thoughts? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
A few years ago, I added a line item to my invoices as follows... Surcharge for Bellsouth, FCC and other regulatory compliance fees and costs. This added fee is based on what I think it cost me to comply with reporting to the FCC, licensed links, and 'hidden' fees that the phone company itemizes

Re: [WISPA] Yup, lemmings

2007-05-03 Thread Sam Tetherow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I ask you guys and gals this... The traffic of interest. What are its characteristics? If it is someone trafficking illegal content to the world at large via encrypted p2p, then obviously that traffic will route and terminate via a core facility at some point.

Re: [WISPA] Tilting at Windmills

2007-05-03 Thread chuck
Because these aren't built yet, the image in my mind is for us to stick up above the blades...meaning the windmill tower itself would be higher than it normally would be, or we'd add an extension to make it so. Well, maybe that's an unrealistic daydream. Chuck At 12:59 PM -0700 5/3/07,

Re: [WISPA] Motorola Powerline

2007-05-03 Thread Ross Cornett
I used the netgear version of this. It seems to work well. The advantage that I saw in teh motorola was that it has a device that connects all 3 phase of electricity to the same network. The Linksys could not do that. FYI - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Ross Cornett
Sounds good thanks Sriv. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question I think you better just take a rate increase and chalk it up to increased expenses

Re: [WISPA] Tilting at Windmills

2007-05-03 Thread Travis Johnson
The wind turbines we have here in town are 300ft tall poles with 100ft blades. The center hub is only 20 feet below the top of the tower. Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because these aren't built yet, the image in my mind is for us to stick up above the blades...meaning the

Re: [WISPA] Sample letter to your representatives

2007-05-03 Thread Alan Cain
Ty Carter Lightwave Communications wrote: This is a sample copy of what I just sent my representative Use it, edit it, discard it... just send something... Thank you. Done. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Yup, lemmings

2007-05-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 3 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that what we really have is mis-placed priority. It seems to ME that what we have is someone who is spineless and wants to hide in anonymity. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
If you decide to take advantage of companies that have solutions in place, you'll have to do what you have to do. Know, however, that you do NOT have to follow anyone's standard! You just have to be able to give the LEA the data they MAY ask for. I've rounded up folks that know how to get

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Read the FAQ. In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to get at what they want. marlon - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question In my

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We have a line item of: Surcharge to cover the cost of a sales tax being charged against our fiber connection. Or words to that effect. We don't call it a tax, we specifically call it a surcharge. I think that several out here do something similar. We also charge a $10 trip charge anytime

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread George Rogato
gas 3.20 per gallon here. $95.00 to fill my truck yesterday. Sheesh Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We have a line item of: Surcharge to cover the cost of a sales tax being charged against our fiber connection. Or words to that effect. We don't call it a tax, we specifically call it a surcharge.

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-03 Thread W.D.McKinney
Yes and up here is $350.00 oer month for a 1MB Business connect. Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]