RE: [WISPA] Streaming Video

2007-08-02 Thread David Hughes
Yes


-Original Message-
From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: 7/27/07 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Streaming Video

Since I am figuring $5,00 to $10.00 per customer the Abacast may be a 
little out of the price range. This is for some High School band events, 
so there isn't going to be a lot of $$$.

Can the Slingbox send the feed to a server that then let's the customers 
connect to the server?

Ralph wrote:
 He said he wants to stream and charge for access.
 To do that, he will need more than a slingbox!
 The worst thing he can do is try to stream to an unknown number of users
 over a pipe that’s too small.

 That's why I use Abacast.  I pay for each input stream and they stream to an
 unlimited number of subscribers for that price.
 It isn't but 250-300 bucks per stream.  That’s cheap considering all that
 they do and that they handle billing and DRM for the customers too.

  Ralph



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Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
They make ATX power supplies with DC inputs, but I don't know if PoE can 
pass enough wattage for them.


Have you seen any of the RB announcements?


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- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless



Hi,

Now you are understanding what the rest of us have been going thru for the 
past couple of years. ;)


The RB532 is underpowered for big backhaul links, yet any of the mini-itx 
or micro-itx boards need 120VAC or a seperate power cable and a power 
converter inside the box. Running LMR cable works for short runs 
(20-30ft), but after that it just limits the signal too much.


What we really need is an 800mhz Routerboard in the same form factor as 
the current RB532. :)


Travis
Microserv

Jory Privett wrote:
I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost.   The main 
problem I have is power where it needs to be.  If I could get 120v then I 
could easily use one of these units or a standard PC.  Most of my sights 
are on water towers so there is no electricity at the top of them and the 
radio ahs to be feed with PoE.  I have tried putting the radios lower and 
using LMR cableis to the antennas  but have had bad experiences with that 
in the past.


Jory Privett
WCCS

- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless



Jory Privett wrote:
These look very interesting.  Does anyone have any 
recomendations/experinces with any in particular?   Do they support the 
MikroTik RouterOS?


Just get something fanless and low-power, and you're good. I usually 
suggest fanless because you can get the whole No Moving Parts 
assembly, which means fewer things that can break; the benefit of that 
should be obvious :) Low-power is optional, but usually goes along with 
fanless, because otherwise your computer could cook itself.


The biggest downside is probably the some assembly required bit - 
you're basically buying all the parts for a small desktop computer, and 
assembling them yourself. There's a bit of learning curve even if you've 
worked with desktop PCs before (those power supplies especially are 
tiny, and can be annoying to work with). Your first system will probably 
take an hour or two to assemble.


It will be a bit bigger than a Routerboard 500 - probably six inches 
square, two or three inches tall. And you'll need real power, as you 
can't usually run these with POE.


RouterOS is available for standard x86 hardware, which most mini-ITX 
boards would be.


You may also want to look at the new Soekris 5501. I haven't tested 
RouterOS on it, but Soekris is standard x86 hardware, so problems are 
pretty unlikely. It's a single-board unit, so you don't have to assemble 
anything; you'll be getting a bit less performance at about the same 
price, but you don't have to spend an hour putting bits together.


mini-box.com has a good selection of bits and pieces; I've bought from 
them before and they took good care of me.


David Smith
MVN.net


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Re: [WISPA] backhaul recommendation

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett

Anything 4.9 GHz.


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Subject: [WISPA] backhaul recommendation





I need a couple sets of backhauls for a public safety application.  Link
distance under 3 miles, clear los.  Need @ 20 meg throughput.  Security
is a high priority and they have to be rock solid. Has to be a stickered
system.  Any recommendations?

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm in the market for an enclosure again too.  I got a steal on the last 
one, but I can't find any anymore.  Not looking quite that big...   maybe 1' 
x 2.5' x 3'  dxwxh.



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Subject: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source


Anyone know where I can get an outdoor enclosure, preferably metal, approx 
2' x 2' x 4'.  Surplus, used, etc; near Arizona?


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[WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread Justin S. Wilson
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss

In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The
order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network -
all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts
of the state that presently don't have such service.

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[WISPA] canopy backhaul

2007-08-02 Thread chris cooper


Anyone have opinions good or bad regarding canopy backhauls?
Reliability and uptime?

Thanks
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RE: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread chris cooper
Last mile connectivity?...

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Behalf Of Justin S. Wilson
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:55 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss

In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network.
The
order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio
Network -
all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in
parts
of the state that presently don't have such service.

---
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Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless

2007-08-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, but nothing is shipping right now (that I know of). Several of our 
towers will be wintered here in about 3 months (meaning harder access, 
PITA to climb and work on, etc.).


Plus, doesn't one or more of the new boards require v3 of the OS? I have 
tried several times with v3 to load on existing RB532's and had horrible 
problems (lock-ups, random reboots, incorrect software loads, etc.) and 
when I go back to 2.9.40 everything was fine. This was only about a 
month ago.


I have also done the mini-ITX boards with the PicoPSU units (running a 
seperate 18AWG cable for power). It worked fine, but it was kind of a 
cluster.


Travis
Microserv

Mike Hammett wrote:
They make ATX power supplies with DC inputs, but I don't know if PoE 
can pass enough wattage for them.


Have you seen any of the RB announcements?


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http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless



Hi,

Now you are understanding what the rest of us have been going thru 
for the past couple of years. ;)


The RB532 is underpowered for big backhaul links, yet any of the 
mini-itx or micro-itx boards need 120VAC or a seperate power cable 
and a power converter inside the box. Running LMR cable works for 
short runs (20-30ft), but after that it just limits the signal too much.


What we really need is an 800mhz Routerboard in the same form factor 
as the current RB532. :)


Travis
Microserv

Jory Privett wrote:
I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost.   The 
main problem I have is power where it needs to be.  If I could get 
120v then I could easily use one of these units or a standard PC.  
Most of my sights are on water towers so there is no electricity at 
the top of them and the radio ahs to be feed with PoE.  I have tried 
putting the radios lower and using LMR cableis to the antennas  but 
have had bad experiences with that in the past.


Jory Privett
WCCS

- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless



Jory Privett wrote:
These look very interesting.  Does anyone have any 
recomendations/experinces with any in particular?   Do they 
support the MikroTik RouterOS?


Just get something fanless and low-power, and you're good. I 
usually suggest fanless because you can get the whole No Moving 
Parts assembly, which means fewer things that can break; the 
benefit of that should be obvious :) Low-power is optional, but 
usually goes along with fanless, because otherwise your computer 
could cook itself.


The biggest downside is probably the some assembly required bit - 
you're basically buying all the parts for a small desktop computer, 
and assembling them yourself. There's a bit of learning curve even 
if you've worked with desktop PCs before (those power supplies 
especially are tiny, and can be annoying to work with). Your first 
system will probably take an hour or two to assemble.


It will be a bit bigger than a Routerboard 500 - probably six 
inches square, two or three inches tall. And you'll need real 
power, as you can't usually run these with POE.


RouterOS is available for standard x86 hardware, which most 
mini-ITX boards would be.


You may also want to look at the new Soekris 5501. I haven't tested 
RouterOS on it, but Soekris is standard x86 hardware, so problems 
are pretty unlikely. It's a single-board unit, so you don't have to 
assemble anything; you'll be getting a bit less performance at 
about the same price, but you don't have to spend an hour putting 
bits together.


mini-box.com has a good selection of bits and pieces; I've bought 
from them before and they took good care of me.


David Smith
MVN.net
 



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Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless

2007-08-02 Thread David E. Smith

Jory Privett wrote:
I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost.   The main 
problem I have is power where it needs to be.  If I could get 120v then 
I could easily use one of these units or a standard PC.  Most of my 
sights are on water towers so there is no electricity at the top of them 
and the radio ahs to be feed with PoE.  I have tried putting the radios 
lower and using LMR cableis to the antennas  but have had bad 
experiences with that in the past.


That's just a personal preference, I think. About half of our towers are 
radio at ground level, coax going up to the antenna, the other half 
being radio in the air, ethernet/POE going up.


I prefer having my gear at ground level, but that's probably because I'm 
not a climber, and it always kinda bugs me when something gets zapped 
and I have to wait an extra hour to fix it because all the climbers are 
working on other stuff at the other end of our service area forty miles 
away.


If you use good coax cable, you'll only lose four or five dB per hundred 
feet, and that's easily overcome with a slightly higher-gain antenna or 
a slightly more powerful radio. I think the convenience of having the 
gear more easily accessible (and the flexibility of having AC power 
available) outweighs the added cost of that better equipment, but 
there are good arguments both ways.


If you're desperate you could always get a 100' extension cable :D 
(Seriously, running power up a tower certainly can be done. It's more 
wiring, of course, and you may have to worry about those pesky 
electrical codes, but if you feel ambitious you can do that and get some 
of the good stuff from both choices.)


David Smith
MVN.net

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RE: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless

2007-08-02 Thread Stephen Patrick
I don't want this to appear an advert, because that wouldn't go down well on
WISPA.

But reading the posts, thought it might be of interest to note our co makes
complete x86 boxes with 500MHz or 1GHz CPUs that run Nstreme2 at full speed
(77Mbps Full Duplex with bandwidth test utility) with plenty of CPU
horsepower to spare.  
They've been shipping for a while and we have excellent feedback.
Data here:
http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/radio/CableFree%20HPR%20Radio%20Datasheet.
pdf
 
HPR boxes have 24V proprietary POE and will support reasonable length cables
(50m or more), and have been proven to operate in some harsh climates round
the world. Specifically, we have several installed in the UAE/Dubai where
they have extreme heat of +60C on rooftop sites.
The boxes are waterproof  passively cooled, will take up to 5 radio cards,
are supplied complete and tested with full version of RouterOS 2.9.x
installed - does not require V3 beta to operate. 

Our customers have used them with Gabriel dual-pol antennas, and I know have
tested with a couple others too.  Not tried the Pacwireless but am sure
someone soon will.

Very happy to share more info if anyone wants - just drop a line.

Best regards

Stephen

CableFree Solutions


-Original Message-
From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 August 2007 14:27
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless

Yes, but nothing is shipping right now (that I know of). Several of our
towers will be wintered here in about 3 months (meaning harder access,
PITA to climb and work on, etc.).

Plus, doesn't one or more of the new boards require v3 of the OS? I have
tried several times with v3 to load on existing RB532's and had horrible
problems (lock-ups, random reboots, incorrect software loads, etc.) and when
I go back to 2.9.40 everything was fine. This was only about a month ago.

I have also done the mini-ITX boards with the PicoPSU units (running a
seperate 18AWG cable for power). It worked fine, but it was kind of a
cluster.

Travis
Microserv

Mike Hammett wrote:
 They make ATX power supplies with DC inputs, but I don't know if PoE 
 can pass enough wattage for them.

 Have you seen any of the RB announcements?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless


 Hi,

 Now you are understanding what the rest of us have been going thru 
 for the past couple of years. ;)

 The RB532 is underpowered for big backhaul links, yet any of the 
 mini-itx or micro-itx boards need 120VAC or a seperate power cable 
 and a power converter inside the box. Running LMR cable works for 
 short runs (20-30ft), but after that it just limits the signal too much.

 What we really need is an 800mhz Routerboard in the same form factor 
 as the current RB532. :)

 Travis
 Microserv

 Jory Privett wrote:
 I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost.   The 
 main problem I have is power where it needs to be.  If I could get 
 120v then I could easily use one of these units or a standard PC.
 Most of my sights are on water towers so there is no electricity at 
 the top of them and the radio ahs to be feed with PoE.  I have tried 
 putting the radios lower and using LMR cableis to the antennas  but 
 have had bad experiences with that in the past.

 Jory Privett
 WCCS

 - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link  Pacwireless


 Jory Privett wrote:
 These look very interesting.  Does anyone have any 
 recomendations/experinces with any in particular?   Do they 
 support the MikroTik RouterOS?

 Just get something fanless and low-power, and you're good. I 
 usually suggest fanless because you can get the whole No Moving 
 Parts assembly, which means fewer things that can break; the 
 benefit of that should be obvious :) Low-power is optional, but 
 usually goes along with fanless, because otherwise your computer 
 could cook itself.

 The biggest downside is probably the some assembly required bit - 
 you're basically buying all the parts for a small desktop computer, 
 and assembling them yourself. There's a bit of learning curve even 
 if you've worked with desktop PCs before (those power supplies 
 especially are tiny, and can be annoying to work with). Your first 
 system will probably take an hour or two to assemble.

 It will be a bit bigger than a Routerboard 500 - probably six 
 inches square, two or three inches tall. And you'll need real
 power, as you can't usually run these with POE.

 RouterOS is available for standard x86 hardware, which most 
 mini-ITX boards would be.

 You may also want to look at the new Soekris 5501. I haven't tested 
 RouterOS 

Re: [WISPA] canopy backhaul

2007-08-02 Thread Ryan Langseth
IF you mean the PTP series, we have many of them installed, they are
pretty rock solid.  The issues we have had with them are:

1) At one of our tower locations we have 4 of them installed, every once
in a while their spectrum analysis (finding a clean channel) and DFS
will play havoc with each other one will switch channel and the rest
cascade changing channels. During this time the bitrate drops.  This is
solvable by either blocking channels, or manually setting the channel
for the link.

2) I had a power supply for one die last weekend,  not sure what caused
this to happen yet.

3) The company I work for started installing them before I started with
them.  When they started with the link distance capabilities of the
integrated links were exaggerated, so we have some at distances that
caused some issues, this was a failure on the company we bought them
from, not the equipment.  


Ryan

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:44 -0400, chris cooper wrote:
 
 Anyone have opinions good or bad regarding canopy backhauls?
 Reliability and uptime?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread Frank Muto
9. I signed this Executive Order on July 26, 2007 in Columbus, Ohio and it 
will expire on my last day as Governor of Ohio unless rescinded before 
then.


So what happens after that? Do you potentially build a business service on 
an executive order rather than legislative law?





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Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network



http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss

In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. 
The

order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio 
Network -
all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in 
parts

of the state that presently don't have such service.

---
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Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services
WEB: http://www.mtin.net
WEB: http://www.metrospan.net
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[WISPA] Equipment for sale

2007-08-02 Thread Larry A Weidig
Hope that posting this is not an issue.  I have a bunch of
used/new equipment for sale that I figure is best posed for this list.
All of the used equipment has been used for less than 2 weeks at a
recent event that took place in our area.  I have the following items:

Qty Item
--- 
 2  Tranzeo TR-CPQ-19f (New)
 1  Tranzeo TR-CPQ-19f (Used)
 4  Tranzeo TR-CPQ-15f (New)
 4  Tranzeo TR-CPQ-Nf (New)
 5  Tranzeo TR-GD24-24 Antennas (New)
 3  Tranzeo TR-6500f Access points (Used)
 3  Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 120 Sector Antenna (Used)
 1  HP 4000m (p/n: J4121A) 40 port managed 10/100 switch, chassis
and AC power

We simply found that the lack of SNMP management (were told that
would change by Tranzeo, and has not) and inability to script management
from our servers made them not work in our network.  We use Tranzeo
links for backhaul and I personally have nothing against them.  The HP
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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
This is Ohio after all.

On 8/2/07, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9. I signed this Executive Order on July 26, 2007 in Columbus, Ohio and
 it
 will expire on my last day as Governor of Ohio unless rescinded before
 then.

 So what happens after that? Do you potentially build a business service on
 an executive order rather than legislative law?




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 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:54 AM
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  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss
 
  In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
  network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
  establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network.
  The
  order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
  access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
  allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio
  Network -
  all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in
  parts
  of the state that presently don't have such service.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network *Justin*

2007-08-02 Thread JohnnyO

Justin - Call Jay about the tower in Eaton, Ohio.

JohnnyO

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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss

In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. 
The

order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio 
Network -
all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in 
parts

of the state that presently don't have such service.

---
Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services
WEB: http://www.mtin.net
WEB: http://www.metrospan.net
WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com




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[WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Team, Marlon, et al,

Need your help to get to next level.

We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.

we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
internet service.

BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???

blank slate.

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[WISPA] Canopy snmp proxy

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Ireton


	The most recently release of canopy software includes apparently a 
feature for snmp proxy, to reterive snmp values for sm's via the AP. 
Does anyone know which oid's we need to poll in order to get that info? 
I assume their prizm tool must do this too.


Thanks.

M


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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Hi Robert, Can you clarify what you mean by We only
sell EVDO?  Are you asking what you should do with
the hits you get seeking wireless internet service?
I visited your website http://evdo-coverage.com/

There is nothing inherently wrong with EVDO. My
experience is end users are seeking higher throughput.
 The other feature that's been discussed is the dual
mode capability of end user devices.

It really depends on the Mission, Goals and Objectives
of your company.  What problems are you trying to
solve? What are you trying to achieve (build
revenue?), and what is your short, mid, long term
tactical strategic plan.

Felix Lopez
Wireless and Utilities practioner
San Francisco, CA


--- Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Team, Marlon, et al,
 
 Need your help to get to next level.
 
 We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.
 
 we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily
 looking for wireless
 internet service.
 
 BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one
 time bounty. any
 recommendations on what else and HOW else we can
 deliver
 goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???
 
 blank slate.
 
 -- 
 Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider

http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
 http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
 Suite 203
 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
 206 984 0880


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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I doubt its anything more than PR.  Internet connectivity sold by the state 
of Illinois is ungodly expensive.  This is not much (if any) different than 
Illinois's network www.illinois.net



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- Original Message - 
From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network



http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss

In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data
network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order
establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. 
The

order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend
access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order
allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio 
Network -
all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in 
parts

of the state that presently don't have such service.

---
Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services
WEB: http://www.mtin.net
WEB: http://www.metrospan.net
WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com




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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
The fixed wireless industry is too fragmented to have any sort of system 
you're looking for.  Too many independent renegades.



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- Original Message - 
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?



Team, Marlon, et al,

Need your help to get to next level.

We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.

we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
internet service.

BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???

blank slate.

--
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http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
Suite 203
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
206 984 0880

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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network

2007-08-02 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Mike - My other comments are that local governments
have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways
of generating revenue.  Such is the case with quasi
goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET
seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to
other providers.  (at least that is what I heard two
years ago in the Pacific Northwest??)

Felix
San Francisco Area
--- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I doubt its anything more than PR.  Internet
 connectivity sold by the state 
 of Illinois is ungodly expensive.  This is not much
 (if any) different than 
 Illinois's network www.illinois.net
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
 
 
 

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss
 
  In order to coordinate and expand access to the
 state's broadband data
  network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed
 an executive order
  establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the
 Broadband Ohio Network. 
  The
  order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to
 coordinate efforts to extend
  access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every
 county in Ohio. The order
  allows public and private entities to tap into the
 Broadband Ohio 
  Network -
  all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed
 internet service in 
  parts
  of the state that presently don't have such
 service.
 
  ---
  Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower
 Services
  WEB: http://www.mtin.net
  WEB: http://www.metrospan.net
  WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com
 
 
 
 


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RE: [WISPA] backhaul recommendation

2007-08-02 Thread drew
SnapLink / Orthogon / DragonWave / CeragonSnapLink has great throughput @ unlicensed 24GHz. Being in the 24 gig space not only adds a layer of security, but keeps you out of interference.-drew



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Subject: [WISPA] backhaul recommendation
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Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 4:13 pm
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I need a couple sets of backhauls for a public safety application.  Link
distance under 3 miles, clear los.  Need @ 20 meg throughput.  Security
is a high priority and they have to be rock solid. Has to be a stickered
system.  Any recommendations?

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Re: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source

2007-08-02 Thread Ross Cornett

We use a 30 X 24 12 we have them made and they are awesome...

If you want info seek me offline.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source


Do what Marlon does if you can. Use a refrigerator! Insulated from  cold 
and warm!


ryan


On Aug 1, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Jason wrote:

Anyone know where I can get an outdoor enclosure, preferably metal, 
approx 2' x 2' x 4'.  Surplus, used, etc; near Arizona?


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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
How about selling me customers?  I'll provide a coverage map and when 
someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us.  We'll try to 
sell the account, when we do, we owe you money.  Say $10 or $20.  You get to 
own that referral for 6 to 12 months.  We may not be able to get to them 
today, but can with the next expansion.


You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure 
we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates 
that shouldn't be hard to do.


just a thought.
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?



Team, Marlon, et al,

Need your help to get to next level.

We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.

we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
internet service.

BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???

blank slate.

--
Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider
http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
Suite 203
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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Marlon, guys,
is there an industry standard referral commission?
anyone out there service europe?
I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come
to our site need FIXED not mobile internet



On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about selling me customers?  I'll provide a coverage map and when
 someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us.  We'll try to
 sell the account, when we do, we owe you money.  Say $10 or $20.  You get to
 own that referral for 6 to 12 months.  We may not be able to get to them
 today, but can with the next expansion.

 You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure
 we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates
 that shouldn't be hard to do.

 just a thought.
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?


  Team, Marlon, et al,
 
  Need your help to get to next level.
 
  We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.
 
  we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
  internet service.
 
  BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
  recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
  goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???
 
  blank slate.
 
  --
  Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider
  http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
  http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
  2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
  Suite 203
  Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
  206 984 0880
  
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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is
a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking
them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My
referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or
customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service
as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill.



On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marlon, guys,
 is there an industry standard referral commission?
 anyone out there service europe?
 I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come
 to our site need FIXED not mobile internet



 On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about selling me customers?  I'll provide a coverage map and when
  someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us.  We'll try to
  sell the account, when we do, we owe you money.  Say $10 or $20.  You get to
  own that referral for 6 to 12 months.  We may not be able to get to them
  today, but can with the next expansion.
 
  You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure
  we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates
  that shouldn't be hard to do.
 
  just a thought.
  Marlon
  (509) 982-2181
  (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
  42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
  www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
 
 
   Team, Marlon, et al,
  
   Need your help to get to next level.
  
   We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.
  
   we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
   internet service.
  
   BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
   recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
   goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???
  
   blank slate.
  
   --
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   http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
   http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
   2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
   Suite 203
   Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
   206 984 0880
   
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[WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...

2007-08-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently
given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of
cable here and there.

What kits/tools do you use? 

Where can I get these tools/kits/parts?

Why do you like the ones you have?

ryan


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