RE: [WISPA] Need Service in the following areas

2007-08-17 Thread Charles Wu
Actually, I personally am not in the connectivity business...just helping out a friend -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-17 Thread Mac Dearman
Jack, Most of the 2.5 and 2.3GHz spectrum has been being snatched up by Sprint in the last 3 years. They aren't doing anything with it right now that I am aware of, but rumor has it that they are in cahoots with Clear Wire. I have a contract here between Sprint and the local educational facility

[WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-17 Thread Jack Unger
I have a client with a 900 MHz network that has been deployed more than 5 years. Apparently without doing a wireless site survey, the City has deployed two 900 MHz automatic meter reading systems. One uses Itron hardware and one use Utillicom hardware. There is now a head-to-head battle as the

Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers

2007-08-17 Thread Ron Wallace
Thanks John, for the knid words and the document. Ron Wallace >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 09:57 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers > >All is well Ron. You never step out of line her

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
If you are not happy, we are more than willing to let you out of your contract and refund your installation fees" line. -forrest We have a pretty strict policy of no refunding install-set up fees. Maybe if we were incompetent, which has never happened yet, we would. But no money gets ref

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Forrest W Christian
Generally the customers we've offered to "remove equipment and refund install" for are in a situation where for whatever reason their expectation did not match what we were able to deliver. Sometimes we simply cannot deliver the service we typically provide to a customer to that customer for s

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
I"ve actually told subs that I'm able to bring onto my level, that with my customers, I expect to have a good working relationship for a very long time. But I can't do that with someone who does not respect me or wants to be beligerant. And that I'm just too friggin old and not getting any youn

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its not jsut about money, and its not just about peice of mind. I think there is a bigger concern with PITA customers, and that is "reputation". Everyone likes to complain, its something to make converstaton. The last thing an ISP wants is an unhappy customer. Its better to not have that custome

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
As a dial up isp with 3,000+ subs in a small town, I know exactly the type of customer your talking about. I went to the school of hard knocks too. Hey, your internet caused my computer to stop working... Your internet gave me that virus, you should clean my machine for free. blah blah blah. W

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
I don't blaim customer for customers being rude. They have been well conditioned to be rude, by our monopoly competitors or non-related retail chain establishments, where the only way they have gotten any results was to scream and be the "angry customer". If that is not the case, its because

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I talking about the ones who cause problems on their computer and blame it on me. Then they tell my it's my job to fix it, for free. The internet is working fine when I go over there with my laptop. It's only a couple I've done this to. Brian George Rogato wrote: Customers are hard to com

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
And, usually no one gives them any credibility anyway. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I tell them to treat people here with respect or find another provider. Most of the time I can calm them down though. And they are nicer in the future. I've not fired any for being frustrated and taking it out on us yet. Been close a few times though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910

Re: [WISPA] BLM fees

2007-08-17 Thread Jack Unger
Blake, Considering that large sections of our law-making process have been taken over by big business interests, I can't help but wonder how many of these new rules were written (out of public view, of course) by these large business interests with the intent of putting small competitors out

Re: [WISPA] BLM fees

2007-08-17 Thread Blake Bowers
- Original Message - From: "Forrest W. Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BLM fees My understanding of how BLM fees work are as follows: 1) An empty communications building has very low, if any, fees.

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Only 60 processes? I routinely run 80 - 90. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jory Privett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customer

Re: [WISPA] Purchasing wireless part of a company

2007-08-17 Thread Blake Bowers
Sometimes the value of purchasing the ASSETS of a company, both hard assets and soft assets like customer lists, can be much higher than purchasing the company. A case in point - a few years ago we purchased the ASSETS of a regional paging company. We got their transmitters, paging terminal, cus

RE: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick
"provenance"...wow! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... George Rogato wrote: > Customers are hard to come by to dispose o

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Very well said. Customers 1-3 I bend over backward for. One customer recently was very vocal about their connection going downhill as the trees leafed out. I went as far as climbing 50 feet up several trees and topping them for this customer. That is not a PITA customer. (I have to admit, I

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, David E. Smith wrote: One customer who persists in causing problems for dozens of other customers isn't worth it. This is the crux of the problem. I can deal with a customer who is simply rude. If their activities negatively impact other customers, then I have no beef

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jory Privett
The biggest problem I have with customers is the ones that know it is the systems problem and could not possible be there computer. I do a service call and see that their computer is running 60+ process, has no anti-virus and is covered with spyware. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jack Unger
Nobody is proposing that customers should be disposed of "easily". We fight to obtain customers and we fight to keep them but disposing of a customer who is continually draining your resources or impacting the service that you deliver to others is a wise business decision, assuming that their c

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread David E. Smith
George Rogato wrote: Customers are hard to come by to dispose of them so easily. I wonder, I wonder what it is that is causing the customer to complain? I'll agree with the principle of this statement, that customers often have a legitimate reason for their complaints. Some folks, however, s

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
Customers are hard to come by to dispose of them so easily. I wonder, I wonder what it is that is causing the customer to complain? Maybe you can expand on why they are complaining or what the problem is for that particular customer. Also, Brian, if you don't call your customers back, regardl

[WISPA] Purchasing wireless part of a company

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't want to get into how much because that has been debated time and time again. However, should one expect to pay less if purchasing the wireless operations of an existing company doing many services (Internet and not) than if they purchased the whole company? - Mike Hammett Intellig

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Frank Muto
Back in our dialup days, we when we started cueing up calls with "this call will be recorded for quality control purposes", sure did its job of significantly reducing PITA calls. Besides filtering out PITA calls, it kept our employees on their toes as well. Frank - Original Message --