Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Blair Davis
Wonder Pole? Please tell me more! Mike wrote: This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free WiFi. I park it downtown every Friday

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html I have had very good service from this device. Don't over-tighten the section rings in the field unless you have a pair of channel locks with you. Don't ask me how I know that. At 01:59 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote: Wonder Pole? Please tell me more! Mike

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
I'd love to add that to my trailer. What is the make? At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote: That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized too! If you want to see something that really gets attention, have a look at my site survey/portable AP rig. http://ralphfowler.com I have

[WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Can the new UBNT M line gear be used as an 802.11n access point without the TDMA? I'm assuming the TDMA protocol is proprietary and that when using the TDMA protocol normal 802.11a/b/g gear doesn't work. I'm also assuming the TDMA can be turned off which I realize might not be the case.

[WISPA] Desktop WiFi VoIP phone

2009-08-26 Thread Olufemi Adalemo
Hi List, I'm looking for a good tried and tested WiFi desktop phone, can anybody recommend one to me? Thanks Femi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread eje
Yes by default it act as a regular 11n unit to get TDMA function you would enable airMAX function on the units. Kind of like with MikroTik you would enable Nstrem to get that functionality. As far as I know these two systems are not compatible. 11n is backwards compatible with a/b/g So yes

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread ralph
Were you speaking of the pneumatic mast in my pics, or of the wonder pole? Mine is a Wil-burt or Wilburt and they cost a bunch- like $5,000.00 new. But since the DTV rollout is complete, there should be surplus ENG trucks around with these masts. The TV stations started keeping their old trucks

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Would the wonder pole handle a wind load of an NS2/Canopy? What about a massive Arc MT combo? How do you mount the base? Can this be made mobile/temporary? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible,

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mark McElvy
The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge controller included in that kit as it is junk. They always recommend MorningStar for like $60.00. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent:

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
Not sure if this is clear, but with airmax enabled Ubiquity is proprietary, if you disable airmax it will work with other n/g clients, I don't think b is supported at this time. The firmware is rather young at this time as well, I'd wait a few releases before using these in production.

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread ralph
Thanks What do they say about the panels themselves? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site The solar list that I

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
Eje, Did you get the email I sent you offlist? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent:

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
It depends on how high you push it up. I *HAVE* had it all the way up with a 12 panel, low wind condition, one person on the ground and the other sitting on the gable end of a roof for testing. The top two sections get a little wispy (pun intended) for big panels, or to leave up. I

[WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Hensley
Hope this doesn't break the list rules... Anyone have a couple of Tranzeo or Deliberant 19db CPE's you are willing to part with at a reasonable price? Need something as a router - have older Tranzeo bridges in place now that don't seem to be talking well with a new Deliberant AP that we put up to

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
The solar panels look just like the $79.00 Northern ones. I am curious how they built the PVC frame. Not a bad deal considering it also has the controller *AND* an inverter you could keep in the truck to power your laptop charger. 60 watts is probably overkill for most of our applications

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Laura
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CIADLG?ie=UTF8tag=remyfu-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B000CIADLG - Original Message - From: Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Carullo
I have half of a tr5 link I used to use. I don't use it any more nor do I plan to, just been on the shelf. If that can help you or anyone else I'd like to get rid of it. It hasn't made it to ebay yet I've been cleaning the office :) hit me offlist Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Location agreement

2009-08-26 Thread Robert West
Hey, no need to be sorry. We all need to see what contracts others are using. Thanks! Added to my files for just in case. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:40 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Curtis Maurand
Home depot's site. go figure. $329 a Solar Back Up Kit (as they call it.) 60 Watts. $329 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051langId=-1catalogId=10053productId=100658288 Mike wrote: It depends on how high you push it up. I *HAVE* had it all the

Re: [WISPA] Location agreement

2009-08-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
Keep in mind to use your WISPA WIKI access, as there is a number of documents on there as well. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support

Re: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Hensley
Thanks for the responses. I've found what I need. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's Hope

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mark McElvy
No negative comments, they seem to be fine. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Ryan Spott
Be aware though, you cannot mix and match at the same time.For example: 1 Airmax AP and 10 Airmax enabled CPE = Airmax network. 1 Airmax AP, 9 Airmax enabled CPE and 1 802.11G/N = 802.11G/N network. ryan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Not sure if this is

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
Ryan, That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see the AP. You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clients, you can't have some CPE's running in Airmax and some not running in

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Ryan Spott
Correct. ryan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Ryan, That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see the AP. You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax enabled or not. Regards Michael Baird Correct. ryan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Ryan, That's not

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Ryan Spott
But you cannot mix and match correct? ryan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax enabled or not. Regards Michael

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
When you enable airmax on the AP, only airmax capable stations will see it and can connect to it. Airmax capable clients will be able to connect to non-airmax enabled AP's, they recognize airmax/non-airmax alike. You can not mix and match, you can't run legacy gear to a Airmax enabled AP, won't

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Airmax to Ubnt is Nstreme to Mikrotik from what I gather. To those who know Mikrotik that one sentence covers it all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable,

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Will it work dynamically? IE: You turn on AirMax and it auto selects the common denominator? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:16

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
The stations will, there is no enable airmax tick box in station mode, it autodetects. Regards Will it work dynamically? IE: You turn on AirMax and it auto selects the common denominator? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd expect so - worst case scenario a reboot. Though I seriously doubt that - haven't seen that problem since Tranzeo (it was an *OLD* CPE that had this problem). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread eje
Except airMAX goes a step further by using some hardware function that is only available in the 11n chipsets. The TDMA is a mix of software and hardware. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009

[WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Miller
Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-26 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/8/26 Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com: Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. Have you read the release notes for the EZ products? Sounds pretty half baked at this time.

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Does anyone know if the TDMA slicing is configurable? Like 50/50 up/down, or prioritized Voice/Video? - Original Message - From: e...@wisp-router.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Miller
No I haven't...Any other suggestions on another type of radio that will do 5.3 Ghz PTMP? - Original Message From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
Hrm, I'm 90.9% sure it's software based. It does run on the old gear, they just say it takes too many resources, and probably there wasn't a lot of will to make the old stuff compatible, when they could just make everyone buy new stuff. Regards Michael Baird Except airMAX goes a step further

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-26 Thread Cameron Kilton
The EZ line is interesting. I former Alvarion engineer explained it to me this way, If you are thinking cars. The EZ line is like a Corolla and the VL line is like a Lexus. I thought that was funny. The Alvarion VL line is a great product line and we've been using is well for many years now,

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
I don't have good info on that, other then I've been assured of a big surprise on the QOS end for Voice. They offer 802.11e already on their older gear, which for the most part works perfectly, but they say the new gear will improve upon that. Regards Michael Baird Does anyone know if the

Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Not to mention the old hardware has LITTLE memory and CPU horsepower. On 8/26/09, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: I don't have good info on that, other then I've been assured of a big surprise on the QOS end for Voice. They offer 802.11e already on their older gear, which for the most

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
I second the Morningstar On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge controller included in that kit as it is junk. They always recommend MorningStar for like $60.00. Mark -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Erickson
Specifically, the Morningstar MPPT charge controllers. -Christopher Erickson -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
We have 2 solar sites. 2 problems that occur, which if power is nearby makes it worth it to run power to them. 1st problem. Battery Maintenance. 2nd Problem. Low sun in the winter months. We have solar and wind to make up for the solar loss in the winter, however it seems we have to go and

[WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Direct from the horse's mouth UBNT Support Begin forwarded message: Yes if you turn off AirMax, they will talk to older gear. However please be aware that the new gear does not support WEP encryption. WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-26 Thread Chuck Bartosch
We use Wireless Connections, Inc. and have been extremely satisfied. If they *don't* carry a product, it'd be for a good reason. I've never asked them about the EZ line though-we're quite satisfied with Alvarion's VL line. The VL does do 5.3, 5.4, and 5.8 (with the proper radio for each

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh no, it doesn't support WEP what ever shall I do!!! Honestly though I am surprised WEP compatibility is gone... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line

2009-08-26 Thread eje
Good riddance about time. Will force people to use WPA instead of WEP. --Original Message-- From: Josh Luthman Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line Sent: Aug 26,

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
That is what I was thinking - force out WEP. Though I have never cared much, I would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [UBNT#JFHG-79025] Question about the new M line

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Baird
The next release of the firmware will support WEP. And yes that's what we said earlier you have to turn airmax off on the AP for non-airmax gear to talk to it. Regards Michael Baird Oh no, it doesn't support WEP what ever shall I do!!! Honestly though I am surprised WEP compatibility is

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread jp
http://www.altestore.com/store/ is where I get my solar panels. That panel looks like the 48v one they sell for a similar price. Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of panel. 2 60's might work for a small 1 MT site. Then you're looking at closer to $1k for 120w of

Re: [WISPA] a better bit-torrent?

2009-08-26 Thread jp
About time. torrent has to be about the most inefficient way to share data; blindly transferring stuff from the ends of the Internet instead of from localized or centralized sources which are always faster and cheaper per meg. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 09:44:10PM -0500, Dylan Oliver wrote: as

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal, I have 48W left over to charge the battery. Lets say I am REALLY north, and the

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
24 hours of sun in 33 days is enough to run 12 watts. That's just amazing when you think about it! On 8/27/09, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Don't forget that there is some inefficiency in the battery and some self discharge. So you don't get a watt out for every watt in. Also don't forget that if you're doing this on a budget you're probably using batteries which are made to deep cycle often so they won't last long if being

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period. I think he meant 24 hours of sun cumulative over 33 days. No? Greg On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Christopher Erickson wrote: First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above the Arctic circle. And even

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Here is the graph straight from the charge monitor for our solar panels, to give you an idea what the charging pattern looks like. This is for a pair of 60w panels. http://www.thelar.com/gallery2/v/Wireless/Hogback/graph_image1.png.html Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Christopher Erickson wrote:

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Erickson
Could be but that isn't right either. 24 hours of daylight is not the same as 24 hours of full current charging. The Sun rises and the Sun sets. Latitude and seasons aside, an 80 watt panel is only going to give about 450 watt-hours a day at absolute best. -Christopher Erickson

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Am I missing something? 24 (hours of sun) * 60 watts = 1,440 watt hours of solar power produced. 12 (watts) * 24 (hours in a day) * 33 (days) = 9504 (watt hours) not 1,440 of power consumed. Working backwards starting with 1,440 watt hours to burn: 1,440 watt hours / 12 (watts) * 24