I'd want to see that graph dropping off sooner, perhaps finishing the
charging by about 1pm. Is your charge controller a 3 stage charger
(bulk, absorb, float) or some approximation? It looks like your
batteries might just be getting full when the sun is going down. Was
that a clear sky day?
Exactly. But I think he meant that in a 33 day period he only needed
24 hours of sun which comes out to be less than an hour a day. I think
his math is flawed (perhaps calculating watts instead of watt hours)
but I think that's what he meant. Getting 24 hours of sun in a 33 day
period is pr
Ooops. That should read "you're probably using batteries that aren't
made to deep cycle often"
Greg
Begin forwarded message:
> From: os10ru...@gmail.com
> Date: August 27, 2009 12:51:32 AM GMT-04:30
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
>
> Don't forget that there is some
Could be but that isn't right either.
24 hours of daylight is not the same as 24 hours of full current charging.
The Sun rises and the Sun sets.
Latitude and seasons aside, an 80 watt panel is only going to give about
450 watt-hours a day at absolute best.
-Christopher Erickson
> -Origina
Here is the graph straight from the charge monitor for our solar panels,
to give you an idea what the charging pattern looks like. This is for
a pair of 60w panels.
http://www.thelar.com/gallery2/v/Wireless/Hogback/graph_image1.png.html
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
Christopher Erickson wrote:
>
I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period.
I think he meant 24 hours of sun cumulative over 33 days. No?
Greg
On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Christopher Erickson wrote:
> First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above
> the Arctic circle. And even
Am I missing something?
24 (hours of sun) * 60 watts = 1,440 watt hours of solar power
produced.
12 (watts) * 24 (hours in a day) * 33 (days) = 9504 (watt hours) not
1,440 of power consumed.
Working backwards starting with 1,440 watt hours to burn:
1,440 watt hours / 12 (watts) * 24 (hours
Don't forget that there is some inefficiency in the battery and some
self discharge. So you don't get a watt out for every watt in. Also
don't forget that if you're doing this on a budget you're probably
using batteries which are made to deep cycle often so they won't last
long if being dis
First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above
the Arctic circle. And even then, that only happens for a few days
of the year.
Second, there isn't much charging going on when the Sun is near the
horizon, which is most of the time when in Northern latitudes.
For example, an 80
24 hours of sun in 33 days is enough to run 12 watts. That's just
amazing when you think about it!
On 8/27/09, Mike wrote:
> I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is
> pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If
> I have 60W of solar panel (
I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is
pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If
I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal,
I have 48W left over to charge the battery.
Lets say I am REALLY north, and the panels
About time. torrent has to be about the most inefficient way to share
data; blindly transferring stuff from the ends of the Internet instead
of from localized or centralized sources which are always faster and
cheaper per meg.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 09:44:10PM -0500, Dylan Oliver wrote:
> as l
http://www.altestore.com/store/ is where I get my solar panels. That
panel looks like the 48v one they sell for a similar price.
Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of
panel. 2 60's might work for a small 1 MT site. Then you're looking at
closer to $1k for 120w of
The next release of the firmware will support WEP.
And yes that's what we said earlier you have to turn airmax off on the
AP for non-airmax gear to talk to it.
Regards
Michael Baird
> Oh no, it doesn't support WEP what ever shall I do!!!
>
> Honestly though I am surprised WEP compatibility is gon
That is what I was thinking - force out WEP.
Though I have never cared much, I would rather have it and not need it then
need it and not have it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which re
Good riddance about time. Will force people to use WPA instead of WEP.
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Oh no, it doesn't support WEP what ever shall I do!!!
Honestly though I am surprised WEP compatibility is gone...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must
We use Wireless Connections, Inc. and have been extremely satisfied.
If they *don't* carry a product, it'd be for a good reason. I've never
asked them about the EZ line though-we're quite satisfied with
Alvarion's VL line. The VL does do 5.3, 5.4, and 5.8 (with the proper
radio for each ban
Direct from the horse's mouth "UBNT Support"
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> Yes if you turn off AirMax, they will talk to older gear. However
> please be aware that the new gear does not support WEP encryption.
WIS
We have 2 solar sites. 2 problems that occur, which if power is nearby
makes it worth it to run power to them. 1st problem. Battery
Maintenance. 2nd Problem. Low sun in the winter months. We have solar
and wind to make up for the solar loss in the winter, however it seems
we have to go and cha
Specifically, the Morningstar MPPT charge controllers.
-Christopher Erickson
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [W
I second the Morningstar
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Mark McElvy wrote:
> The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge
> controller included in that kit as it is junk. They always recommend
> MorningStar for like $60.00.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wire
Not to mention the old hardware has LITTLE memory and CPU horsepower.
On 8/26/09, Michael Baird wrote:
> I don't have good info on that, other then I've been assured of a big
> surprise on the QOS end for Voice. They offer 802.11e already on their
> older gear, which for the most part works perfe
I don't have good info on that, other then I've been assured of a big
surprise on the QOS end for Voice. They offer 802.11e already on their
older gear, which for the most part works perfectly, but they say the
new gear will improve upon that.
Regards
Michael Baird
> Does anyone know if the TDM
Hrm, I'm 90.9% sure it's software based. It does run on the old gear,
they just say it takes too many resources, and probably there wasn't a
lot of will to make the old stuff compatible, when they could just make
everyone buy new stuff.
Regards
Michael Baird
> Except airMAX goes a step further
The EZ line is interesting.
I former Alvarion engineer explained it to me this way, "If you are
thinking cars. The EZ line is like a "Corolla" and the VL line is like a
"Lexus".
I thought that was funny.
The Alvarion VL line is a great product line and we've been using is
well for many years no
No I haven't...Any other suggestions on another type of radio that will do 5.3
Ghz PTMP?
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:39:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed
2009/8/26 Joe Miller :
> Does anyone know o
2009/8/26 Joe Miller :
> Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP
> radios? Mainly looking for the "EZ" line.
Have you read the release notes for the EZ products? Sounds pretty
half baked at this time.
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Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP
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It is not doing that type of TDMA like Canopy. It's TDMA based on usage.
This is NOT the same as a Canopy system.
Travis
Microserv
Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
Does anyone know if the TDMA slicing is configurable? Like 50/50 up/down,
or prioritized Voice/Video?
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F
Does anyone know if the TDMA slicing is configurable? Like 50/50 up/down,
or prioritized Voice/Video?
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?
> Except airMAX goes a step
Except airMAX goes a step further by using some hardware function that is only
available in the 11n chipsets.
The TDMA is a mix of software and hardware.
/Eje
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From: Josh Luthman
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:33:59
To: WISPA General Li
I'd expect so - worst case scenario a reboot. Though I seriously doubt that
- haven't seen that problem since Tranzeo (it was an *OLD* CPE that had this
"problem").
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the imposs
Thanks.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Michael Baird"
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:38 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?
> The stat
So then you're saying that you start replacing things, then AirMAX capable
CPE will automatically reconnect as AirMAX when the AP enables it?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Michael Baird"
Sent
The stations will, there is no enable airmax tick box in station mode,
it autodetects.
Regards
> Will it work dynamically? IE: You turn on AirMax and it auto selects the
> common denominator?
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> -
Will it work dynamically? IE: You turn on AirMax and it auto selects the
common denominator?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Ryan Spott"
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:16 AM
To: "WISPA G
Airmax to Ubnt is Nstreme to Mikrotik from what I gather. To those who know
Mikrotik that one sentence covers it all.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, m
When you enable airmax on the AP, only airmax capable stations will see
it and can connect to it.
Airmax capable clients will be able to connect to non-airmax enabled
AP's, they recognize airmax/non-airmax alike.
You can not mix and match, you can't run legacy gear to a Airmax enabled
AP, won't
But you cannot mix and match correct?
ryan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
> Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick
> box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax
> enabled or not.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
> > Cor
Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick
box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax
enabled or not.
Regards
Michael Baird
> Correct.
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
>
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> That's not correct. Y
Correct.
ryan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
> Ryan,
>
> That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N
> client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see
> the AP.
> You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clie
Ryan,
That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N
client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see
the AP.
You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clients, you
can't have some CPE's running in Airmax and some not running in Airmax
Be aware though, you cannot mix and match at the same time.For example:
1 Airmax AP and 10 Airmax enabled CPE = Airmax network.
1 Airmax AP, 9 Airmax enabled CPE and 1 802.11G/N = 802.11G/N network.
ryan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
> Not sure if this is clear, but wit
No negative comments, they seem to be fine.
Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
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Thanks for the responses. I've found what I need.
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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's
Hope this
Keep in mind to use your WISPA WIKI access, as there is a number of documents
on there as well.
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WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Service
Hey, no need to be sorry. We all need to see what contracts others are
using.
Thanks! Added to my files for just in case.
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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:40 PM
To: 'WIS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CIADLG?ie=UTF8&tag=remyfu-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000CIADLG
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From: "Curtis Maurand"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
>
> Home depot'
I have half of a tr5 link I used to use. I don't use it any more nor do I
plan to, just been on the shelf. If that can help you or anyone else I'd
like to get rid of it. It hasn't made it to ebay yet I've been cleaning
the office :)
hit me offlist
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-110
The solar panels look just like the $79.00 Northern ones. I am
curious how they built the "PVC" frame. Not a bad deal considering
it also has the controller *AND* an inverter you could keep in the
truck to power your laptop charger. 60 watts is probably overkill
for most of our applications
Hope this doesn't break the list rules...
Anyone have a couple of Tranzeo or Deliberant 19db CPE's you are willing to
part with at a reasonable price? Need something as a router - have older
Tranzeo bridges in place now that don't seem to be talking well with a new
Deliberant AP that we put up to
Home depot's site. go figure. $329 a Solar Back Up Kit (as they call
it.) 60 Watts. $329
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100658288
Mike wrote:
> It depends on how high you push it up. I *HAVE* had it all t
Not sure if this is clear, but with airmax enabled Ubiquity is
proprietary, if you disable airmax it will work with other n/g clients,
I don't think b is supported at this time. The firmware is rather young
at this time as well, I'd wait a few releases before using these in
production.
Regards
It depends on how high you push it up. I *HAVE* had it all the way
up with a 12" panel, low wind condition, one person on the ground and
the other sitting on the gable end of a roof for testing. The top
two sections get a little wispy (pun intended) for big panels, or to
leave up. I regularl
Thanks
What do they say about the panels themselves?
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Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
The solar list that I part
Eje,
Did you get the email I sent you offlist?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Wedn
The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge
controller included in that kit as it is junk. They always recommend
MorningStar for like $60.00.
Mark
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Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Tuesd
Would the wonder pole handle a wind load of an NS2/Canopy? What about a
massive Arc MT combo?
How do you mount the base? Can this be made mobile/temporary?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, t
Were you speaking of the pneumatic mast in my pics, or of the wonder pole?
Mine is a Wil-burt or Wilburt and they cost a bunch- like $5,000.00 new.
But since the DTV rollout is complete, there should be surplus ENG trucks
around with these masts.
The TV stations started keeping their old trucks t
Yes by default it act as a regular 11n unit to get TDMA function you would
enable airMAX function on the units. Kind of like with MikroTik you would
enable Nstrem to get that functionality. As far as I know these two systems are
not compatible.
11n is backwards compatible with a/b/g
So yes your
Hi List,
I'm looking for a good tried and tested WiFi desktop phone, can anybody
recommend one to me?
Thanks
Femi
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Can the new UBNT M line gear be used as an 802.11n access point
without the TDMA? I'm assuming the TDMA protocol is proprietary and
that when using the TDMA protocol normal 802.11a/b/g gear doesn't
work. I'm also assuming the TDMA can be turned off which I realize
might not be the case.
Fo
I'd love to add that to my trailer. What is the make?
At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:
>That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized too!
>
>If you want to see something that really gets attention, have a look at my
>site survey/portable AP rig.
>http://ralphfowler.com
>I
http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html
I have had very good service from this device. Don't over-tighten
the section rings in the field unless you have a pair of channel
locks with you. Don't ask me how I know that.
At 01:59 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
>Wonder Pole?
>
>Please tell me more!
>
>
Wonder Pole?
Please tell me more!
Mike wrote:
This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed
trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side
Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free
WiFi. I park it downtown every Friday f
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