Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Stephenson
Tom, Do you happen to know what a hardware watchdog timer watches? Perhaps there is something it can watch like whether or not the device is sending on the Ethernet port or the program counter. But, it seems that as embedded systems add more software, a useful hardware watchdog timer becomes less

Re: [WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-20 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Mmmm, the Wrap, is its private IP in the 10.0.0.0/8 ? Can you look up in the RB's NAT table and see what the source IP is? FTP out to the world, is it using the NAT IP or the correct public IP ? I wonder if Proxy ARP isn't biting you. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Tom Sharples
A hardware watchdog timer, typically, watches only one thing - is the software and/or CPU still alive? If a software pinger fails to reset a hardware counter or timer every few seconds or so, the timer reaches the end of its count and resets the motherboard. It is a failsafe if everything else

Re: [WISPA] Snake Oil or Real?

2009-12-20 Thread Brough Turner
Robert, While I don't have specific experience with Skycross antennas, the underlying idea is well established -- two different radiation patterns from elements in the same area, i.e.a scheme that creates pattern diversity. This is possible and commercial versions are being driven the need

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Michael Baird
Tom, Try again, Ubiquity AR71xx based stuff (all the M series) supports a hardware watchdog fine. from dmesg via OpenWRT. Atheros AR71xx hardware watchdog driver version 0.1.0 Regards Michael Baird A hardware watchdog timer, typically, watches only one thing - is the software and/or CPU

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Tom Sharples
That's good - but just because it's supported at the chipset level doesn't necessarily mean the ubnt firmware or sdk supports it. In any case we were working with the original a/g nano's and bullets, not the M series. The M is way too new and bleeding edge for us. Tom S. - Original

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Greg Ihnen
A hardware watchdog timer isn't something that's supported. To me that sounds like a software feature. A true hardware watchdog is a separate circuit that oversees the system. If it detects a problem it toggle the power controller chip to reset the whole board. Greg On Dec 20, 2009, at 2:19

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Josh Luthman
I believe the routerboard watchdogs are hardware. The software resets the hardware timer. If it hits 0 the watchdog reboots. On 12/20/09, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: A hardware watchdog timer isn't something that's supported. To me that sounds like a software feature. A true

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Stephenson
Tom, Watchdog timers like you describe are useful, but they tend to be less valuable than they used to be because newer software tends to be multi-threaded instead of single threaded and also the interfaces are smarter and do more processing on their own. This means there are more paths that the

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Robert West
And that's so basic, it's really the most useful watchdog, IMO. Many times I've been able to get a ping response from a piece of equipment yet it's still not functioning. Thus, it still needs to have a visit even though it pings just fine. And as a wonderful coincidence, I had one just like

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Robert West
If it has it, it ain't a workin'! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:26 PM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time? A

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Robert West
I think so too. I've never had a Routerboard hang on me and I've had plenty reboot themselves after I did something foolish or idiotic in a config. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Robert West
But a device can still respond to a ping yet be locked up. If anything, it needs to just be a small part of the overall picture. Maybe if then hardware watchdog was based on a separate firmware and one could specify the parameters to trigger the hardware reboot, not dependant on the operating

Re: [WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-20 Thread RickG
Yes, the WRAPs are in the 10.0.0.0/8. However, I dont have the WRAPs defined in NAT. The working WRAP I'm off of at my office is using the public IP. I'll have to FTP test the non-working WRAP at the customer site to see. As I said, the net does work using the public IP from there location. I

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Tom Sharples
At the risk of boring people - we use both. We have a fairly sophisticated software watchdog routine that checks all threads and the integrity of the various network devices like eth, ath, tun, tap, ppp, etc. etc, every few minutes. If it sees anything wrong it takes corrective action, which

[WISPA] DDWRT on UBNT

2009-12-20 Thread rwf
I loaded it once, but wasn't interested enough in it to pay for a license. That is one of the radios they require a license for. I do have a Nano-2 now with Open-WRT loaded on it, just started playing with it though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Stephenson
Tom, Sounds like a great approach. Mark On 12/20/09 7:30 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: At the risk of boring people - we use both. We have a fairly sophisticated software watchdog routine that checks all threads and the integrity of the various network devices like eth, ath,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Tom Sharples
Have to disagree with that - at least in any embedded device I've ever worked on (and I've worked on a great many), the hw watchdog was incapable of independent detection of anything. All it did was wait for a tickle from the firmware which, if absent for greater than x amount of time, would

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time?

2009-12-20 Thread Robert West
Not boring at all, Tom. Informative. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time? At the risk of