Dear readers,
Do you have any experience with successful blocking of P2P (eDonkey,
Torrents etc.) traffic in your wireless networks?
Any user who uses torrent client at his PC can effectively consume a lot of
bandwidth of Wi-Fi access point, leaving other honest users with small
portion of
Travis,
The electrical grid is not as easy to manage and build as some people
might
think, even if it is one way so to speak. Found this out when I was building
rural cellular towers. When we would pull service to a new site it would be
built for 800-1200 amps capacity. In some parts of
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage, and
then they loose all their customers feeding off it after that.
If there is one Thing the Cable Cos understand it is you didn't buy a service
with an SLA because we dont offer one, so we can care less if
I'm not sure that I agree that wireless has higher uptime than fiber.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
To: WISPA
Could be very useful for the WISP cause:
http://reboot.fcc.gov/home
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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I'm not sure I agree either, but wireless obviously can't be cut. With that
though, our fiber hasn't been out more than twice in 5 years.
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Tom,
When you make the claim that wireless has more uptime than fiber, where
do
you base those facts from and what types of fiber deployments are you
comparing it to? While I believe wireless is a great thing, one has to
wonder why a company who's name was MCI (Microwave Communications
Our backbone fiber has been down 2-3 times over 3 years. One time was
so that they could upgrade the Fiber Switches, and the other times we
were only down a minute or two.
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
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I would agree in a heartbeat...we've actually won customers because of
outages with DS3's and T1's that were run on fiber. When the
historical ice storm came through New England just over a year ago, we
had 100% uptime with our infrastructure while Fairpoint and Comcast was
down all over the
Brian Webster wrote:
Fiber deployments have been commonplace between
telephone switches for years now and I have never heard about reliability
issues and/or downtime problems with the fiber. Not that they don't happen
but when you average their uptime to their outages, I would think they have
Hi,
One difference is they are not bringing in big electrical power in the
hopes that someone will connect. They don't bring anything into these
rural areas until AFTER you (or someone else) has committed to using
that much service.
It would be like having a business call and say I need a
MikroTik firewall filter rule using the all-p2p matcher and drop as action?
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Roman consulttele...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear readers,
Do you have any experience with successful blocking of P2P (eDonkey,
Torrents etc.) traffic in your wireless networks?
Any user
Exactly. The terms wireless and fiber are too broad to make any
valid reliability comparison without more specifics.
Comparing a licensed point to point microwave system with redundant
paths, spatial diversity, standby power, and a tower structure rated to
150 MPH to an aerial fiber strand
You'll never catch everything. Once its encrypted its really hard to
block.
What your better off doing is blocking what you can, And when you have a
problem, Queue that user down to something you see acceptable. I've had
people yell and scream that you can't do this, Like comcast got nailed
Yes you can. You have to move the ground jumper. Just loosen the nuts
and move the jumper to the hole with no copper.
The jumper will short out the + voltage to ground.
LaRoy McCann
Data Technology
Scott Carullo wrote:
Not sure if it matters that the voltage + and - are swapped...
Thanks
Is this Harris made or OEM?
http://tinyurl.com/ycqxay
Gino A. Villarini
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Harris bought Telsima, then Harris split off the Harris-Stratex side,
which now holds all the wireless ptp (stratex side) and pmp (Telsima
side). So it is not an OEM but rather an acquired unit.
Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile
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From:
Agreed, Patrick.
As a business only provider many of our customers that bring in a
10-50-100Mbps or higher microwave connection in from us are doing so to
complement their existing fiber connection(s).
As time progresses some of those customers end up favoring our microwave
connection over
Let me clarify.
I'm referring to Metro-E deployment.
I'm not refering to the physical medium glass filled wire, which of course
has a huge long reliable life.
Metro-E typically runs from commercial building to commercial building. Each
Hop is a potential failure point.
Metro-E tends to be a
The thing is there are cases or palces where Wireless cant be made reliable
for a specific situations that limit that location. People will remember
those rare cases and associate them with Wireless in general,
without understanding that taht is a different situation and not the norm.
People
The 600SSB still clamps at 35V like the 300SS, right?
If so, make sure you are using Less than 35V Mikrotiks units and not 48V
configurations.
As an alternative Citel also makes a nice outdoor mountable unit
specifically for wifi pin-outs, about the same cost ($25ish).
They have both
Fiber doesn't suffer from interference or have a low number of frequencies
you can use at one location.
Richey
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:16 AM
To: WISPA General
I am planning to have access to fiber throughout an area that's probably 3x
to 4x my current coverage area. I'll build my network around that fiber.
However, I will retain wireless PtP links for redundancy. That cuts down on
the need to consume valuable spectrum for primary backhaul links.
Good point about the voltage.
I use them mostly for UBNT CPE. What MT units I used them with were 18
or 24V.
Tom DeReggi wrote:
The 600SSB still clamps at 35V like the 300SS, right?
If so, make sure you are using Less than 35V Mikrotiks units and not 48V
configurations.
As an
I know it isn't said very often but the voltages for the devices we commonly
use are
Canopy 12-24v
Nano/Locostations 12-25v
MT 4xx 10-28v
Cordless drill battery 18-22v
Having a mobile POE priceless
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Actually the broken device example happens with electricity too.
There can be a failed hot water heater. Shorted wires etc. that run the
bill way up.
The difference is that people don't leave their hair dryer on 24/7. They
know it uses a lot of resources so they turn it off.
They will also
Hiya Roman,
We bill per bit. That way we don't care what the customer is doing, all
we're worried about is how much they uses. Run edonkey and you'll get an
extra bill. Download Netflix and you'll get an extra bill etc.
MOST of the time we catch virus's for our customers. It's actually a
I guess I hit enter before I was thru typing.
I also use the Citel in-line suppressors (60v) in every AP that I build.
http://www.citel.us/data_sheets/dataline/MJ850524D3A6012B-DataSheet.pdf
Knock on wood, I have never lost an ethernet port on a unit that has
this surge suppressor installed.
I
2010/1/11 Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com:
Hiya Roman,
We bill per bit. That way we don't care what the customer is doing, all
we're worried about is how much they uses. Run edonkey and you'll get an
extra bill. Download Netflix and you'll get an extra bill etc.
MOST of the time
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 14:34 +0300, Roman wrote:
Do you have any experience with successful blocking of P2P (eDonkey,
Torrents etc.) traffic in your wireless networks?
Yes.
Any user who uses torrent client at his PC can effectively consume a lot of
bandwidth of Wi-Fi access point, leaving
Then just put in a hard cap. Or set them to such a slow speed that it's
unusable.
The REST of the users will sure be glad that the service works as it should
:-).
marlon
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From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent:
Time Warner does offer an SLA on their Business Class. It's worked in our
favor the three time its gone down in the 6 months that its been installed!
Considering that, our wireless has been running five 9s to our business
customers who chose us over the wired connections options. -RickG
On Mon,
I wouldn't ever block anything in non-security management. I'd just slow it
down. If you block it, they'll find a way around it. If you slow it to 64k
or something like that, it'll just assume you have a slow line and act
accordingly.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Darn! I just got a 36 volt lithium Bosch Hammer Drill!
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
I know it isn't said very often but the voltages for the devices we
commonly
use are
Canopy 12-24v
Nano/Locostations 12-25v
MT 4xx 10-28v
Cordless
Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
Good results here as well with Citel units. Unfortunately, the radio
sometimes still gets it through through the coax. Switching over to
polyphasers before spring!
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
I guess I hit enter before I was thru typing.
I also use
Ice works. :)
Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of crusty stuff
trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
sticky or whatever but it went on just fine. Temp was
Marlon, as you know I've been a proponent of usage based billing since I've
been in broadband. But, whether you bill for it or not, PTP still eats up
the AP to the point it slows it down for everyone. How do you get around
that?
-RickG
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold
Coax seal.
On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:
Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23
I've used the liquid tape but never in the cold. What's happened to the
vulcanizing tape? Some use a top coat of regular vinyl tape so that it
doesn't weather.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent:
Coax seal is the S**T man!
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Coax seal.
On 1/11/10, Jason
Coax-Seal.
http://www.amazon.com/Coax-Seal-ft-Pro-Pack/dp/B00075J4JG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1263234681sr=8-3
We use it on everything and in every temperature.
Travis
Microserv
Jason Hensley wrote:
Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or
The Andrew way has always been wide mastic/coax seal/good electrical tape.
The mastic keeps the coax seal out of the threads
The coax seal seals
The electrical tape protects the coax seal
Always wrap like you're roofing; bottom up.
Mike
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From:
The key to using ice is to keep it cold all year.
For the self-vulcanizing tape, I find it works by putting it on the
defroster vent of the truck while driving to the site and then keeping
it in an inside pocket until ready to use it.
Jason Hensley wrote:
Our luck hasn't been good with that.
Ditto.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Coax seal.
On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:
Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Wow... I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is
discussed. I would be in the Caribbean right now. :-)
Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...
-B-
RickG wrote:
Ditto.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Coax
LOL, do you invest in the futures market!?! I'd bet it will come up again!
-r
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Wow... I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is
discussed. I would be in the Caribbean right now. :-)
Its kinda like the
Right, when I first saw this topic come up a gazillion years ago I
should have become a chemist and materials engineer to come up with the
perfect product. I'd be in the box seats for sure!
Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile
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From:
I think Jason's angle is that products often times have an application
temperature range that is less than the temperature way in which they'll do
their job. What everyone does may well work fine at 70 degrees ambient, but
at 30 or -50, what works?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
On 1/11/10 3:47 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
at ... -50, what works?
Not me, that's for sure!
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This topic got quite a bit off from Marlon's original post, but getting back
to that, what I've done more than once with the local cable company is what
I guess would fit in the category of social engineering, that is I imitate
what I've heard their techs say when they get stumped and call in to
We use the same mastic and 33+ tape that we normally do.
Before you go to the site, put it on the dash with the defrost on to get it
warmed up well.
Then put the tape INSIDE your shirt, that'll keep it fairly warm.
Once up there, work really fast :-).
marlon
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By stopping it before it starts People here know what it'll do to their
bill.
Sometimes it happens anyway. Usually people don't know it's happening.
When we catch someone in the act we call them as soon as we can and see what
they are up to. If it's just a big download we let it go and
LOL That's gotta be the same thing we've used for years.
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl
NEVER had a leak.
marlon
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From: Travis Johnson
Yes, that's the biggest thing is that during our cold weather we've had here
the past week or so (0* with -15 wind chills - not a normal thing here in
Southern Missouri) our current weather seal methods aren't easy to install.
Sure, we could do it inside and would work fine but we get up on a
Anyone have any good, bad or otherwise on this mesh product..per
se. ???
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Good Stuff!! We've got our whole City running on it. So far, all of the Fire
Departments, and recently added about a dozen traffic signals. If the City
adds the Red Light cameras, they're planning on using these as well.
-Gary-
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From: Bob Moldashel
OK, so your finding most wont or dont do it since they know they'll have to
pay for the bandwidth?
-RickG
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
By stopping it before it starts People here know what it'll do to
their
bill.
Sometimes it happens
What city? And should I assume there is no video on the system?
Tx
Bob
KosiNet Wireless wrote:
Good Stuff!! We've got our whole City running on it. So far, all of the Fire
Departments, and recently added about a dozen traffic signals. If the City
adds the Red Light cameras, they're
Mansfield, Ohio
No Video yet, mostly running Internet surfing, Email, and Microsoft Terminal
Services at the Fire Stations - Stoplight controllers all connect back to a
single controller.
-Gary-
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From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net
To: WISPA General List
Miss Ohio Festival and Snowtrails ( which ought to be loving the season ).
How's that system funded ?
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From: KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:16:30 -0500
Miss Ohio - Embarq / Now CenturyLink is a local Telco - they kick some big
$$ to the City for these Events. Although, with the Firetide Setup, the City
has shut off at least (6) T1's from them. Now that we've got a couple of
years under our belt with this system, they're looking at expanding
I'm having issues with OSPF (Mikrotik) traversing an Airmax sector.
Network consists of a Routerboard running 4.1, connected to a Rocket
sector running XM.v5.1. Client radio is a Nanostation also running
XM.v5.1, connected to a Routerboard running 4.2. The first routerboard
has a number of ospf
Make sure you have Multicast Data enabled or whatever on the Advanced tab.
Pulled my hair out over this for a couple days, then realized if it's not
checked, you get one-way OSPF.
Checked it, rebooted, and everything has been happy since.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Jeremy Parr
Need to upgrade several 10/100 switches to 10/100/100; I'm looking for
recommendations on good reliable equipment. Will need 24 and 48 port units,
Rx/Tx port mirroring is a must!
Thanks in advance,
Scott
WISPA
Lotsa used Cisco out there
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
Need to upgrade
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