Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jawad A Hai]

PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM.
Above that I will go for dish.



From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas


Just noticed the subject was ptp.  What kind of distances?  Panels are not a 
great choice a lot of the time. 

On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
> 
>> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or
>> Jirous.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate
>>> if you some body can advise me.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
>>> without any luck )
>>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
>>> UBNT)
>>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
>>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
>>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
>>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to
>>> port isolation(MIMO).
>>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
>>> nothing without a good antenna.
>>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range
>>> in very crowded environments.
>>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
>>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an
>>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just
>>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
>>>
>>> Thank YOu
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Rocket M365 link question

[Josh Luthman]

I have a Powerbridge 365 link.  I left it all default in terms of advanced
wireless config.  Works just fine.

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Eduardo  wrote:

> **
>  We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled,
> with aggregation set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.
>
>  
>
> We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings and fluctuating
> randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," we lost all remote
> connection with the station.
>
>  
>
> I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation
> about having aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection with the
> station.
>
>  
>
> I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could be
> affecting the link and losing some pings. 
>
>  
>
> Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Eduardo
>
> Webjogger Internet Services
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Josh Luthman]

Major difference, most everyone used POP years ago.  Probably the cause of
the issues.

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> **
> IMAP for everything, no POP at all.  I am interested to give MAPI a try
> once I finish getting my new Zimbra cluster online.
>
> Outlook 2010 and ThunderBird...   whatever the latest one is.  It restarted
> for an update the other day.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> On 7/13/2011 7:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Versions?  What storage or access method (imap, pop)?
> On Jul 13, 2011 8:29 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> > Those are the two clients I use. My Outlook probably has about 5 GB,
> > but my Thunderbird probably has 30 GB.
> >
> > -
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> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/13/2011 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails. Then
> >> it runs slower than molasses in January.
> >>
> >> Or Eudora. Or Windows Mail/OE.
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
> >> mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just another reason to use a real email account!
> >> I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)
> >> I forget what it's up to. I used to be able to burn a DVD as a
> >> backup, but that's not enough anymore.
> >> marlon
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> >> *To:* WISPA General List 
> >> *Cc:* motor...@afmug.com 
> >> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
> >>
> >> I'm at 16GB of 25. I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I
> >> deleted it all. How far back did you go? I'm afraid when I
> >> get close to 25 I will need to start deleting messages,
> >> something I loathe doing =(
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
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> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 
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> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson
> >> mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got
> >> back 3GB of storage.
> >>
> >> *_Jerry Richardson _*
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[WISPA] Ubiquity Rocket M365 link question

[Eduardo]

We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled, with aggregation 
set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.
 

We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings and fluctuating 
randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," we lost all remote 
connection with the station.

 

I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation about having 
aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection with the station.

 

I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could be affecting 
the link and losing some pings. 

 

Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome. 

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Mike Hammett]

IMAP for everything, no POP at all.  I am interested to give MAPI a try 
once I finish getting my new Zimbra cluster online.


Outlook 2010 and ThunderBird...   whatever the latest one is.  It 
restarted for an update the other day.


-
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On 7/13/2011 7:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Versions?  What storage or access method (imap, pop)?

On Jul 13, 2011 8:29 PM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:

> Those are the two clients I use. My Outlook probably has about 5 GB,
> but my Thunderbird probably has 30 GB.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 7/13/2011 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails. Then
>> it runs slower than molasses in January.
>>
>> Or Eudora. Or Windows Mail/OE.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
>> mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com> 
>> wrote:

>>
>> Just another reason to use a real email account!
>> I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)
>> I forget what it's up to. I used to be able to burn a DVD as a
>> backup, but that's not enough anymore.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Luthman >
>> *To:* WISPA General List >
>> *Cc:* motor...@afmug.com  
>

>> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
>>
>> I'm at 16GB of 25. I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I
>> deleted it all. How far back did you go? I'm afraid when I
>> get close to 25 I will need to start deleting messages,
>> something I loathe doing =(
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson
>> mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com> 
>>

>> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got
>> back 3GB of storage.
>>
>> *_Jerry Richardson _*
>>
>> 925-260-4119 x2 
>>
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[RickG]

I'll save Chuck from having to type this again: http://www.ubnt.com/stock
:P

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:

> **
> Hello Jerry,
>
> Thank YOu for the suggestion.
> You have exactly understood my problem, I read specs and bring the product
> and test then compare it with other I always had issues.
> My main issues is the place where I live I don’t have liberty of importing
> using direct channels. I have to use backdoors for importing and I usually
> import large numbers and keep them in stock.
> The stock usually last for  2-4 months.
> Problem now is UBNT is out of stock and waiting time is 6 weeks +.
> Appreciate your reply Jerry.
>
>  *From:* Jerry Richardson 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:48 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
>
>  Jawad,
>
> There is no simple answer to this.
>
> ** **
>
> You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew
> the numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The
> other issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made
> by someone else.
>
> ** **
>
> Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider
> using the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels
> closer together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The
> kits are low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great. 
>
> ** **
>
> For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to. 
>
> ** **
>
> - Jerry
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jawad A Hai
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
>
> ** **
>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if
> you some body can advise me.
>
>  
>
> Hi,
> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
> without any luck )
> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
> UBNT)
> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to
> port isolation(MIMO).
> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
> nothing without a good antenna.
> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in
> very crowded environments.
> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an
> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just
> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
>
> Thank YOu
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Just noticed the subject was ptp.  What kind of distances?  Panels are not a
great choice a lot of the time.
On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
> +1
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or
>> Jirous.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate
>>> if you some body can advise me.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
>>> without any luck )
>>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
>>> UBNT)
>>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
>>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
>>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
>>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port
to
>>> port isolation(MIMO).
>>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
>>> nothing without a good antenna.
>>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range
>>> in very crowded environments.
>>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
>>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take
an
>>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about
just
>>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
>>>
>>> Thank YOu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[RickG]

+1

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or
> Jirous.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
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>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate
>> if you some body can advise me.
>>
>> Hi,
>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
>> without any luck )
>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
>> UBNT)
>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to
>> port isolation(MIMO).
>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
>> nothing without a good antenna.
>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range
>> in very crowded environments.
>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an
>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just
>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
>>
>> Thank YOu
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Wilson Hernandez]

I'm doing straight MAC auth with MT and nothing else. Today I noticed an 
intruder who cloned a client's NS2 MAC address and it looks like it did 
a ipscan to get a customer's ip address and access the internet... 
That's the only tower I have without WEP key... I have all towers with 
mac auth and wep key. That happens for being lazy.




On 7/13/2011 5:37 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through 
radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius 
server is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the 
authentication. What are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?


Cameron

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher > wrote:


I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all
of my wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like
to get away from it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF
routed. I tried using hotspot mac auth and it worked and still
works in some of my AP’s but some of the more crowded locations
fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve that
method or I need a centralized box that would control
authentication and let my billing server and radius server still
provision speeds and determine that a customer has paid their
bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what authentication
options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am willing
to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will
work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP’s and
public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and currently if
a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile in
radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that
profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Josh Luthman]

Versions?  What storage or access method (imap, pop)?
On Jul 13, 2011 8:29 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> Those are the two clients I use. My Outlook probably has about 5 GB,
> but my Thunderbird probably has 30 GB.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 7/13/2011 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails. Then
>> it runs slower than molasses in January.
>>
>> Or Eudora. Or Windows Mail/OE.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
>> mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Just another reason to use a real email account!
>> I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)
>> I forget what it's up to. I used to be able to burn a DVD as a
>> backup, but that's not enough anymore.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Cc:* motor...@afmug.com 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
>>
>> I'm at 16GB of 25. I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I
>> deleted it all. How far back did you go? I'm afraid when I
>> get close to 25 I will need to start deleting messages,
>> something I loathe doing =(
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson
>> mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got
>> back 3GB of storage.
>>
>> *_Jerry Richardson _*
>>
>> 925-260-4119 x2 
>>
>> www.aircloud.com 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Mike Hammett]

  
  
Those are the two clients I use.  My Outlook probably has about 5
GB, but my Thunderbird probably has 30 GB.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 7/13/2011 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have
  >5GB of emails.  Then it runs slower than molasses in January.
  
  Or Eudora.  Or Windows Mail/OE.
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon
K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
wrote:

  
Just another reason to use
a real email account!
 
I can store as much as my
hard drive will allow :-)
 
I forget what it's up to. 
I used to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but that's
not enough anymore.
marlon

   


  
- Original Message
  - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: WISPA
General List 
Cc: motor...@afmug.com

  
  
Sent: Monday, July
  11, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: Re:
  [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  
  
I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would
  lose more then 3GB if I deleted it all.  How far back
  did you go?  I'm afraid when I get close to 25 I will
  need to start deleting messages, something I loathe
  doing =(
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28
PM, Jerry Richardson 
wrote:

  

  FYI, deleted all of my
@afmug and @wispa messages and got back 3GB
of storage.
   
  Jerry Richardson 
  925-260-4119
  x2
  www.aircloud.com
  
   

  
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Eric Merkel]

Use DHCP with radius auth and attributes to set your shaping queues, etc...

Eric
On Jul 13, 2011 6:00 PM, "Josh Bowsher"  wrote:
> Yes that's exactly what I am after.
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> Midway Electronics
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:58 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
> So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
> With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP
pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP's
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> Midway Electronics
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
>
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
> How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of
PPPoE, last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you
couldn't pass IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have
changed.
>
> On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the
network who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to
redirect non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used
properly. It's not jsut for PPPOE.
>
> Cameron
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all
wireless customers)?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not
want to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> Midway Electronics
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server
is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What
are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>
> Cameron
>
> Cameron
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the
more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
private IP's and public IP's only when the customer requests them, and
currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> Midway 

Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Scott Reed]

Exactly my thought when I read the original post.  Aren't you already 
doing authentication in RADIUS?  What are you really trying to 
accomplish with "authentication?"


On 7/13/2011 5:37 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through 
radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius 
server is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the 
authentication. What are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?


Cameron

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher > wrote:


I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all
of my wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like
to get away from it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF
routed. I tried using hotspot mac auth and it worked and still
works in some of my AP’s but some of the more crowded locations
fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve that
method or I need a centralized box that would control
authentication and let my billing server and radius server still
provision speeds and determine that a customer has paid their
bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what authentication
options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am willing
to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will
work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP’s and
public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and currently if
a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile in
radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that
profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net 

jbows...@midwaynet.net 






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Re: [WISPA] [Spam] FCC 5.4 gig training

[Tom DeReggi]

yeah, that will be helpful if Slides are published on WISPA web site 
somewhere.
The slides had some useful links to FCC Knowledge base documents.
I made the mistake of logging in at the last minute assuming gotomeeting 
wouldn;t require any updates since I've used it before, but missed the first 
half, as it took 20 minutes or so to finish all the softwre updates before I 
could join. Next  time, I know to login 20 minutes early :-)

Overall it was a nice "educational" session on 5.4G.

Its always discouraging though, because it reminds us that most of the gear 
many of us use and like to use would never get certified for 5.4 or 5,3 
under the current software models.
It was clarified that nothing prohibits software developers from using their 
own software on certified hardware components, but reminds us that that does 
not authorize the use of self software that does not follow the rules. One 
rule being software cant have access to any driver setting that could be 
changed to disable compliance, such as ability to change country code.
More or less indirectly making the use of Open Source illegal in its current 
state, unless first compiled with options removed that allow changing driver 
settings that could compromise compliance.

Note that does not mean that Mikrotik/UBNT is illegal operating at 5.8G if 
certified for 5.8Ghz use. But it means it wont be certified for 5.4G, unless 
software is restricted further.

One of the interesting points was that not only is it illegal to use a 
higher gain antenna than ceertified with, but ALSO illegal to use a LOWER 
gain antenna than certified with. This has to do with DFS certified by 
minimim antenna gain.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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To: "WISPA General List" 
Cc: "Principal WISPA Member List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:04 AM
Subject: [Spam] [WISPA] FCC 5.4 gig training


> Just wondering  How many are going to join the "What's legal, what's
> not" webinar today?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Luthman]

Using EAP?
On Jul 13, 2011 6:02 PM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:
> You don't need hotspot or pppoe. I have customers using straight mac auth
> through radius (Freeradius) and the radius passes back whatever attributes
> are in either the radreply or radgroupreply tables.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>>
>>> With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and
IP
>>> pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik
AP’s
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>>
>>> Director of Internet Services
>>> Midwaynet.net
>>>
>>> Midway Electronics
>>>
>>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>>
>>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>>
>>> www.midwaynet.net
>>>
>>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On
>>> Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of
>>> PPPoE, last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you
>>> couldn't pass IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: 
>>>
>>> Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the
>>> network who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to
>>> redirect non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used
>>> properly. It's not jsut for PPPOE. 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's
all
>>> wireless customers)?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not
>>> want to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom
Radius.
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>>
>>> Director of Internet Services
>>> Midwaynet.net
>>>
>>> Midway Electronics
>>>
>>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>>
>>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>>
>>> www.midwaynet.net
>>>
>>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On
>>> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
>>> radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius
server
>>> is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication.
What
>>> are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
>>> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away
from
>>> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using
hotspot
>>> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of
the
>>> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way
to
>>> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
>>> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still
provision
>>> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
>>> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
>>> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if
necessary
>>> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out
both
>>> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
>>> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom
profile
>>> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that
profile.
>>> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>>
>>> Director of Internet Services
>>> Midwaynet.net
>>>
>>> Midway Electronics
>>>
>>> NWIIS a divisio

Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Blake Covarrubias]

What are your CPE? If you're using MikroTik you can also control rate limits in 
addition to device authentication. You can assign IPs via RADIUS, but you will 
have to start allocating IP blocks to AP's, or to a router at a tower site 
which feeds multiple AP's. IP assignment in MikroTik's RADIUS is separate from 
wireless auth & rate limiting, so you can split the two between multiple 
devices.

Feel free to contact me privately if you want to discuss off-list.

--
Blake Covarrubias

On Jul 13, 2011, at 14:58, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

> Yes that’s exactly what I am after.
> 
>  
> 
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> 
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> 
> Midway Electronics
> 
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> 
> Cell 219-863-0678
> 
> www.midwaynet.net
> 
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
> 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:58 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
> 
>  
> 
> So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:
> 
> With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP 
> pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP’s
> 
>  
> 
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> 
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> 
> Midway Electronics
> 
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> 
> Cell 219-863-0678
> 
> www.midwaynet.net
> 
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
> 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
> 
> 
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
> 
>  
> 
> How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of PPPoE, 
> last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you couldn't pass 
> IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have changed.
> 
> On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> 
> Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network 
> who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect 
> non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly. 
> It's not jsut for PPPOE.
> 
>  
> 
> Cameron
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
> wireless customers)?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:
> 
> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want 
> to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
> 
>  
> 
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> 
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> 
> Midway Electronics
> 
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> 
> Cell 219-863-0678
> 
> www.midwaynet.net
> 
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
> 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
> 
>  
> 
> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius 
> on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going 
> to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you 
> using as a billing/provisioning platform?
> 
>  
> 
> Cameron
> 
>  
> 
> Cameron
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:
> 
> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the 
> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to 
> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control 
> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision 
> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open 
> to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my mikrotik 
> equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get 
> an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP’s 
> and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and currently if a 
> customer requests a public static I create a custom

Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Cameron Crum]

You don't need hotspot or pppoe. I have customers using straight mac auth
through radius (Freeradius) and the radius passes back whatever attributes
are in either the radreply or radgroupreply tables.

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>> With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP
>> pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP’s
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
>>
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of
>> PPPoE, last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you
>> couldn't pass IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have
>> changed.
>>
>> On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: 
>>
>> Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the
>> network who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to
>> redirect non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used
>> properly. It's not jsut for PPPOE. 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all
>> wireless customers)?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not
>> want to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
>> 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>>
>>  
>>
>> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
>> radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server
>> is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What
>> are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>>  
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
>> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
>> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
>> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the
>> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
>> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
>> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
>> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
>> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
>> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
>> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
>> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
>> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
>> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
>> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -

Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

Yes that's exactly what I am after.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP 
pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP's

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of PPPoE, 
last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you couldn't pass 
IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have changed.

On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network who 
don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect non-paying 
customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly. It's not jsut 
for PPPOE.

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net




--

Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Luthman]

So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:

> With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP
> pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP’s
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
> ** **
>
> How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of PPPoE,
> last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you couldn't
> pass IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have changed.
>
> On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: 
>
> Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network
> who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect
> non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly.
> It's not jsut for PPPOE. 
>
> ** **
>
> Cameron
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all
> wireless customers)?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373 
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want
> to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
>
>  
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
>  
>
> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
> radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server
> is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What
> are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>
>  
>
> Cameron
>
>  
>
> Cameron
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the
> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP 
pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP's

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of PPPoE, 
last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you couldn't pass 
IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have changed.

On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network who 
don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect non-paying 
customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly. It's not jsut 
for PPPOE.

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:

I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

I understand that and so I am reaching out for ideas on how to use it with 
mikrotik and without pppoe.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network who 
don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect non-paying 
customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly. It's not jsut 
for PPPOE.

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Sam Tetherow]

How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of 
PPPoE, last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you 
couldn't pass IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have 
changed.


On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the 
network who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to 
redirect non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when 
used properly. It's not jsut for PPPOE.


Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming
it's all wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:

I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe.
I do not want to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP
billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 

Cell 219-863-0678 

www.midwaynet.net 

jbows...@midwaynet.net 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth
through radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure
how your radius server is going to provision anything if it
isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as a
billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:

I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate
all of my wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I
would like to get away from it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my
network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot mac auth and it
worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the more
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either
a way to improve that method or I need a centralized box that
would control authentication and let my billing server and
radius server still provision speeds and determine that a
customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to
suggestions of what authentication options are available with
my mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation
fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work like I
want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP’s and public IP’s
only when the customer requests them, and currently if a
customer requests a public static I create a custom profile in
radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for
that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 

Cell 219-863-0678 

www.midwaynet.net 

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Cameron Crum]

Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network
who don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect
non-paying customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly.
It's not jsut for PPPOE.

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all
> wireless customers)?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not
>> want to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
>> radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server
>> is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What
>> are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
>> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
>> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
>> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the
>> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
>> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
>> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
>> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
>> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
>> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
>> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
>> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
>> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
>> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
>> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

Profiles for speed and specifiying IP pools or addresses.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Luthman]

What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:

> I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want
> to get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.
>
> ** **
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net 
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
>
> ** **
>
> What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through
> radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server
> is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What
> are you using as a billing/provisioning platform?
>
> ** **
>
> Cameron
>
> ** **
>
> Cameron
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the
> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Cameron Crum]

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius
on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going
to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you
using as a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:

> I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my
> wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from
> it. I use mikrotik AP’s and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot
> mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP’s but some of the
> more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to
> improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control
> authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision
> speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am
> open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my
> mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary
> when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both
> private IP’s and public IP’s only when the customer requests them, and
> currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile
> in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile.
> Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas.
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
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> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
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[WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Josh Bowsher]

I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my 
wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from 
it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot 
mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more 
crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve 
that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and 
let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine 
that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what 
authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am 
willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work 
like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when 
the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public 
static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom 
pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and 
ideas.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jerry Richardson]

You could potentially start with the standard Rockets. When the GPS units are 
more available, you could swap out the AP end and keep the non-GPS units for 
spares on the Station end.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

Hello Jerry,

Thank YOu for the suggestion.
You have exactly understood my problem, I read specs and bring the product and 
test then compare it with other I always had issues.
My main issues is the place where I live I don't have liberty of importing 
using direct channels. I have to use backdoors for importing and I usually 
import large numbers and keep them in stock.
The stock usually last for  2-4 months.
Problem now is UBNT is out of stock and waiting time is 6 weeks +.
Appreciate your reply Jerry.

From: Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

Jawad,
There is no simple answer to this.

You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew the 
numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The other 
issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made by someone 
else.

Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider using 
the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels closer 
together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The kits are 
low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great.

For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

Hello,

I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you 
some body can advise me.

Hi,
This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without 
any luck )
I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT)
Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port 
isolation(MIMO).
Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing 
without a good antenna.
My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in 
very crowded environments.
I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to 
test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on 
the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i 
needed some permanent vendor.

Thank YOu


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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jawad A Hai]

Hello Jerry,

Thank YOu for the suggestion.
You have exactly understood my problem, I read specs and bring the product and 
test then compare it with other I always had issues.
My main issues is the place where I live I don't have liberty of importing 
using direct channels. I have to use backdoors for importing and I usually 
import large numbers and keep them in stock.
The stock usually last for  2-4 months. 
Problem now is UBNT is out of stock and waiting time is 6 weeks +.
Appreciate your reply Jerry.


From: Jerry Richardson 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:48 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas


Jawad,

There is no simple answer to this.

 

You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew the 
numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The other 
issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made by someone 
else.

 

Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider using 
the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels closer 
together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The kits are 
low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great. 

 

For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to. 

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

 

Hello,

 

I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you 
some body can advise me.

 

Hi,
This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without 
any luck )
I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT)
Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port 
isolation(MIMO).
Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing 
without a good antenna.
My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in 
very crowded environments.
I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to 
test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on 
the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i 
needed some permanent vendor.

Thank YOu




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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jerry Richardson]

Jawad,
There is no simple answer to this.

You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew the 
numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The other 
issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made by someone 
else.

Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider using 
the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels closer 
together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The kits are 
low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great.

For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

Hello,

I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you 
some body can advise me.

Hi,
This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without 
any luck )
I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT)
Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port 
isolation(MIMO).
Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing 
without a good antenna.
My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in 
very crowded environments.
I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to 
test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on 
the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i 
needed some permanent vendor.

Thank YOu


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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Flat panel.  Mikrotik.

The brands I replaced, for the most part, are unknown to me.  I did replace
a pair of little PacWireless dishes but it isn't something comparable (due
to LMR400 runs).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:

> **
> Hello Josh,
>
> What antennas did you use? Flate Panel or Dish (MIMO), ?
> What is your Radio that goes with ARC ??
> did you get a chance to use other brands beside ARC ?
>
> http://en.jirous.com/antenna-5ghz/jrc-29-dx-pr
> http://www.lanbowan.com/products/en_vpro.asp?id=707
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:20 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
>
> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or
> Jirous.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate
>> if you some body can advise me.
>>
>> Hi,
>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
>> without any luck )
>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
>> UBNT)
>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to
>> port isolation(MIMO).
>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
>> nothing without a good antenna.
>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range
>> in very crowded environments.
>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an
>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just
>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
>>
>> Thank YOu
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Forbes Mercy]

  
  
Email pack rat :)

On 7/13/2011 8:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:

  
  
  
  Just another reason to use a real
  email account!
   
  I can store as much as my hard
  drive will allow :-)
   
  I forget what it's up to.  I used
  to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but that's not enough
  anymore.
  marlon
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: motor...@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011
  10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT:
  Cleared the Gmail account


I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I
deleted it all.  How far back did you go?  I'm afraid when I get
close to 25 I will need to start deleting messages, something I
loathe doing =(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry
  Richardson 
  wrote:
  

  
FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and
  @wispa messages and got back 3GB of storage.
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Hey there Rick!  How the heck are you!

Nope, you were my first sales guy, but the guy that taught me about Teletronics 
and locally cost justifiable gear is now lost to me.

I certainly learned a lot from you though!

We're up to 700 or 800 subs here.  Still doing it with about 2.5 people.  Our 
network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut!  Amazing stuff.  
Too bad there are so many competitors and so few people out here :-).  If I 
lived in your neck of the woods I'd be retired by now!  roflol

Glad to see you are still doing well Rick!  Take care,

laters,
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Lindahl 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  Marlon,

   

  I just stumbled on your recent post about the original salesman and 
Teletronics' hardware and thought you might have been referring to me!? 
Although the Kuwait network wasn't something that I worked on.

   

  I'm still plugging away down here so drop me a line once in a while and let 
me know how everything is going.

   

  Take care

   

  Rick Lindahl

  Invictus Networks, LLC   503-635-2562, fax 503-635-9207

  www.invictusnetworks.com www.invictuswireless.com 

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:39 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

   

  Yeah, I've kept some of those too.  Back to 1999.

   

  I keep looking around to see if I can find the original guy that talked me 
into trying this "wireless thing".  I'd like to thank him, or beat him up, 
depending on the day.  grin

   

  I do remember he talked about having Teletronics gear strung from one end of 
Kuwait to the other.

   

  marlon

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mike Hammett 

To: WISPA General List 

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

 

I have some WISPA, Part-15, and ISP Planet lists going back to 3Q2004.



-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com 
On 7/11/2011 12:28 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: 

FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got back 3GB of 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Josh Luthman]

May be fixed with newer versions, but I experienced it with Thunderbird and
Eudora years ago and have seen many complaints online and offline.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) <
o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:

> **
> Hmmm, I've not noticed that.  No problems here yet.
> marlon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
>
> Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails.  Then it
> runs slower than molasses in January.
>
> Or Eudora.  Or Windows Mail/OE.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) <
> o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Just another reason to use a real email account!
>>
>> I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)
>>
>> I forget what it's up to.  I used to be able to burn a DVD as a backup,
>> but that's not enough anymore.
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Cc:* motor...@afmug.com
>>  *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
>>
>>  I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I deleted it
>> all.  How far back did you go?  I'm afraid when I get close to 25 I will
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jawad A Hai]

Hello Josh,

What antennas did you use? Flate Panel or Dish (MIMO), ?
What is your Radio that goes with ARC ??
did you get a chance to use other brands beside ARC ?

http://en.jirous.com/antenna-5ghz/jrc-29-dx-pr
http://www.lanbowan.com/products/en_vpro.asp?id=707



From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:20 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas


I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:

  Hello,

  I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if 
you some body can advise me.

  Hi,
  This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt 
without any luck )
  I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT)
  Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
  i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
  Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
  ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to 
port isolation(MIMO).
  Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is 
nothing without a good antenna.
  My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in 
very crowded environments.
  I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult 
to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here 
on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, 
i needed some permanent vendor.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Hmmm, I've not noticed that.  No problems here yet.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails.  Then it runs 
slower than molasses in January.

  Or Eudora.  Or Windows Mail/OE.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
 wrote:

Just another reason to use a real email account!

I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)

I forget what it's up to.  I used to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but 
that's not enough anymore.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: motor...@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I deleted it 
all.  How far back did you go?  I'm afraid when I get close to 25 I will need 
to start deleting messages, something I loathe doing =(

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson 
 wrote:

FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got back 3GB of 
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or
Jirous.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai  wrote:

> **
> Hello,
>
> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if
> you some body can advise me.
>
> Hi,
> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt
> without any luck )
> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from
> UBNT)
> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to
> port isolation(MIMO).
> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is
> nothing without a good antenna.
> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in
> very crowded environments.
> I have been trying different brands with different results and its
> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an
> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just
> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor.
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[WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas

[Jawad A Hai]

Hello,

I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you 
some body can advise me.

Hi,
This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without 
any luck )
I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT)
Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel.
i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless.
Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering.
ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port 
isolation(MIMO).
Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing 
without a good antenna.
My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in 
very crowded environments.
I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to 
test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on 
the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i 
needed some permanent vendor.

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Re: [WISPA] FCC 5.4 gig training

[Blake Covarrubias]

Is it possible to receive slides and/or video from this? I was registered to 
watch this, but was pulled away to a conference out of town. The guy I asked to 
fill in didn't come through for me.

I'd really like to have access to this info though. Rick, can you help?

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On Jul 13, 2011, at 8:14, Josh Luthman  wrote:

> I plan to.
> 
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> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Just wondering  How many are going to join the "What's legal, what's
> not" webinar today?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Rick Lindahl]

Marlon,

 

I just stumbled on your recent post about the original salesman and
Teletronics' hardware and thought you might have been referring to me!?
Although the Kuwait network wasn't something that I worked on.

 

I'm still plugging away down here so drop me a line once in a while and let
me know how everything is going.

 

Take care

 

Rick Lindahl

Invictus Networks, LLC   503-635-2562, fax 503-635-9207

  www.invictusnetworks.com
 www.invictuswireless.com 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

 

Yeah, I've kept some of those too.  Back to 1999.

 

I keep looking around to see if I can find the original guy that talked me
into trying this "wireless thing".  I'd like to thank him, or beat him up,
depending on the day.  grin

 

I do remember he talked about having Teletronics gear strung from one end of
Kuwait to the other.

 

marlon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mike Hammett   

To: WISPA General List   

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

 

I have some WISPA, Part-15, and ISP Planet lists going back to 3Q2004.



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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

I'd add to the MT column.

I don't run MT boards for my main routers, I use Dell servers with MT software. 
 3ghz processors, many gigs of ram, as many interfaces of nearly any kind etc.  
Never had a lick of trouble with that system, and they basically never running 
over single digit processor usage.

The only problem I have had, might be fixed by now, was the last one I tried to 
do.  The drivers for sata hard drives and pci/e slots didn't work right.  I 
ended up having to use an MT appliance.  It's working fine too, but I'll swap 
it out and use it as a spare one of these days.

marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Roman 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:31 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP


  Great thanks for all who participated in discussion! This community is very 
good place to ask question and get opinions from experienced wireless 
professionals.




  Opinions vary, though. And as the way to thank community and to provoke 
additional discussion I would like to summarize all the inputs from community 
members. Hope to get unbiased view of core routers market as it is today.




  Feel free to criticize it if you want! We can make it even better with help 
of WISP community!




Market segment
   Econom
   Middle
   Top
   
Market players
   Mikrotik
   Imagestream
   Vyatta
   Juniper SRX
   Cisco
   
Performance and price
   20 Mbps – 219$ (RB750G)

2 GE – 1219$ (Power router 732)
   
   Up to 8x1GE
   300 Mbps – 1500$

Up to 8x1GE
   
   
Features
   Proprietary OS
   Open source, Linux-based

Quagga as dynamic routing package
   High end of open source routers
   Cisco competitor,

Junos
   IOS – stable and proven
   
Advantages
   
   
   
   
   
   
Disadvantages
   Up to 2x10GE (
Powerouter 732?)
   OSPF issues
   
   
   
   
Use cases
   Startups
   Startups
   
   Large enterprises with certified engineers
   Large enterprises with certified engineers
   
Technical support
   Free forum or Fee-based from Mikrotik consultants
   Free software upgrades for life, 1 year of free support
   You can purchase service contract
   Many paid options
   Many paid options
   
Try before buy
   http://demo2.mt.lv/
   
   
   
   
   





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  From: Roman 
  Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP
  To: wireless@wispa.org



  What I would like to get at this stage is not actual configuration for 
one-time project. I need some "rule-of-thumb" in order to apply it for all of 
my projects to get budget calculation. 
  For example, for projects with not more than 200 subscribers and 10 Mbps 
backhaul you advise to use configuration "Small". Then, for projects with up to 
1000 subscribers and 100 Mbps backhaul, you advise to use configuration 
"Medium". For every type of configuration I would like to know its technical 
characteristics and price.


  Thank you in advance!




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Josh Luthman]

Unless it's Thunderbird or Outlook and you have >5GB of emails.  Then it
runs slower than molasses in January.

Or Eudora.  Or Windows Mail/OE.

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) <
o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:

> **
> Just another reason to use a real email account!
>
> I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)
>
> I forget what it's up to.  I used to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but
> that's not enough anymore.
> marlon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Cc:* motor...@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account
>
> I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I deleted it
> all.  How far back did you go?  I'm afraid when I get close to 25 I will
> need to start deleting messages, something I loathe doing =(
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson <
> jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
>>  FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got back 3GB of
>> storage.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Yeah, I've kept some of those too.  Back to 1999.

I keep looking around to see if I can find the original guy that talked me into 
trying this "wireless thing".  I'd like to thank him, or beat him up, depending 
on the day.  grin

I do remember he talked about having Teletronics gear strung from one end of 
Kuwait to the other.

marlon

  - Original Message - 
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  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  I have some WISPA, Part-15, and ISP Planet lists going back to 3Q2004.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Just another reason to use a real email account!

I can store as much as my hard drive will allow :-)

I forget what it's up to.  I used to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but 
that's not enough anymore.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: motor...@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account


  I'm at 16GB of 25.  I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I deleted it all.  
How far back did you go?  I'm afraid when I get close to 25 I will need to 
start deleting messages, something I loathe doing =(

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  On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Richardson  
wrote:

FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and @wispa messages and got back 3GB of 
storage.



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Re: [WISPA] FCC 5.4 gig training

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I plan to.

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Re: [WISPA] FCC 5.4 gig training

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[WISPA] FCC 5.4 gig training

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Just wondering  How many are going to join the "What's legal, what's 
not" webinar today?

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquitiy Link having Intermittent Ping Issues ?

[Bruce Robertson]

Check the forums... this seems to be the problem they're working on in 
5.3.3.  You can get 5.3.3-RC to see if it helps.


On 07/13/2011 07:24 AM, KevinR wrote:

Hello,

This may not be a wireless side problem, but it is a UBNT radio problem.
I recently installed a M365 Powerbridge link and it did the same thing.
The only thing that helped was downgrading to 5.2.1
All newer versions I tried would produce packet loss every 300 or so 
pings where you would lose between 1 and 3 packets at a time.

Then just keep repeating every 300 pings or so.
This was with no traffic on the link, as it was a brand new PtP link 
going in.



Thanks,
Kevin

On Jul 13, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:


Hi Eduardo,

What makes you think that the problem is on the Wireless side of the 
radios ?

What other troubleshooting have you done ?
Are you pinging the Radio ? or pinging thru the link ?  is the PTP 
link setup as a WDS Bridge ?
Have you checked the Ethernet Ports  for Duplex or speed mis-match 
between the radio and the switch ?

What are your signal levels ?

:)


ps.  It is good list etiquette to change the Subject of the email 
when posting a new question to the list  :)

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7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net

On 7/13/2011 9:07 AM, Eduardo wrote:
We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled, 
with aggregation set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.
We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings 
and fluctuating randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," 
we lost all remote connection with the station.
I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation 
about having aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection 
with the station.
I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could 
be affecting the link and losing some pings.

Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome.
Thanks,
Eduardo
Webjogger Internet Services



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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquitiy Link having Intermittent Ping Issues ?

[KevinR]

Hello,

This may not be a wireless side problem, but it is a UBNT radio problem.
I recently installed a M365 Powerbridge link and it did the same thing.
The only thing that helped was downgrading to 5.2.1
All newer versions I tried would produce packet loss every 300 or so pings 
where you would lose between 1 and 3 packets at a time.
Then just keep repeating every 300 pings or so.
This was with no traffic on the link, as it was a brand new PtP link going in.


Thanks,
Kevin

On Jul 13, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

> Hi Eduardo,
> 
> What makes you think that the problem is on the Wireless side of the radios ?
> What other troubleshooting have you done ?
> Are you pinging the Radio ? or pinging thru the link ?  is the PTP link setup 
> as a WDS Bridge ?
> Have you checked the Ethernet Ports  for Duplex or speed mis-match between 
> the radio and the switch ?
> What are your signal levels ?
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> ps.  It is good list etiquette to change the Subject of the email when 
> posting a new question to the list  :)
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, Fl 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
> 
> On 7/13/2011 9:07 AM, Eduardo wrote:
>> 
>> We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled, with 
>> aggregation set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.
>>  
>> We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings and fluctuating 
>> randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," we lost all remote 
>> connection with the station.
>>  
>> I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation about 
>> having aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection with the 
>> station.
>>  
>> I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could be 
>> affecting the link and losing some pings. 
>>  
>> Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome. 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Eduardo
>> Webjogger Internet Services
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquitiy Link having Intermittent Ping Issues ?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Hi Eduardo,

What makes you think that the problem is on the Wireless side of the 
radios ?

What other troubleshooting have you done ?
Are you pinging the Radio ? or pinging thru the link ?  is the PTP link 
setup as a WDS Bridge ?
Have you checked the Ethernet Ports  for Duplex or speed mis-match 
between the radio and the switch ?

What are your signal levels ?

:)


ps.  It is good list etiquette to change the Subject of the email when 
posting a new question to the list  :)


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net


On 7/13/2011 9:07 AM, Eduardo wrote:


We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled, 
with aggregation set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.


We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings 
and fluctuating randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," 
we lost all remote connection with the station.


I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation 
about having aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection 
with the station.


I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could be 
affecting the link and losing some pings.


Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome.

Thanks,

Eduardo

Webjogger Internet Services





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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

[Eduardo]

We have an 11mi link with rocket M365 radios, AirMax enabled, with aggregation 
set at 32 frames, with 50KB for the largest frame.

 

We notice that the link is getting some timed out pings and fluctuating 
randomly latency. When aggregation was set at "off," we lost all remote 
connection with the station.

 

I've read the UBNT website info, but didn't find any explanation about having 
aggregation set "on", so as to have remote connection with the station.

 

I'm also not sure if either AirMax, or aggregation, or both, could be affecting 
the link and losing some pings. 

 

Has anyone had similar experiences? Any input would be very welcome. 

 

Thanks,

 

Eduardo

Webjogger Internet Services

 


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